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diana_coman: well, I don't know really; for one thing the "impression they make" is really a matter of the viewer and his impression so sure, it's consistent with one lens so why not, certainly.
mircea_popescu: however they manage to survive this trauma, by "Seeing past it" or "tolerating it well" or whatever -- the impression they'll make is "of someone who doesn't mind the shit so much".
mircea_popescu: my systematically dismissive "you don;t know X, go read up on it" works on... well, undergrads. in junior high however, the style's inadequate.
mircea_popescu: sadly, tlp doesn't improve ;/
mircea_popescu: and i'm starting to suspect i didn't even bother mentioning the exact case or something, cuz they were too many ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't even immediately think of any remaining 'rms' with any ~life left in'em for such a thing
mircea_popescu: fun fact for rotards : andrea ESCA is named for the fleshy bait atop an anglerfish head. didn't know thsat, did you.
BingoBoingo: But yes, the absence of culture is a pre-requisite of elevation in the Incan insanity. Can't have "luminaries" tethered to the world or their place in it. MIT is more or less a sort of "day program" for "special" adults.
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that leaving aside his damning failure to show up, rms wouldn't have made it five minutes in the forum on the basis of his absent culture, literacy or generally speaking working cns.
mircea_popescu: and thanks heaves i didn't do that, holly hell.
mircea_popescu: nah, was some building we were meeting i don't remembe rwhat local retard that had "security" at the door.
mircea_popescu: this slippery slope of idiocy, "i really should have beaten the wife, but since i haven't, can't now beat daughter".
mircea_popescu: "can't affort", "isn't proper", "this guy's abusive", what have you.
mircea_popescu: and yes, "to give up" as the reality is disguised in-universe, in the works of fiction populating stupid heads, as "can't"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 15:23:12 asciilifeform: pike, seems , wasn't quite enuff, cuz it dun stab by itself, need pikeman with a bit of sense in his head
mircea_popescu: suppose i said "we can't afford to make new loggers yet again" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'face derealization' / 'they gave up, why' -- i was reading not long ago about keldysh (head of sovok academy of sciences, and overall respectable figure, in charge of ~100% of calculative works for space / atomic programs etc. ) BUT at same time is the fella who undertook 'let's ditch native comp archs and copy pdp'. seems like was a checkmate, rather than 'dolchstoss', saw no working alternative , 'we can't affor
asciilifeform: pike, seems , wasn't quite enuff, cuz it dun stab by itself, need pikeman with a bit of sense in his head
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought it started in stone age, where 'fair', i.e. can't effectively make a usable-later pile of ~anyffin
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a socialism before all that ; and there won't be a socialism in the future.
mircea_popescu: the unfairness of this situation wasn't, mind, that they were imbeciles, but that ~it is unfair~ that ~THINGS SHOULD BE SO~!!!!
mircea_popescu: being idle imbecile fuckwits and regrettably still around as well they shouldnt', the italians deeply resented this situation, where the austrians administered them well as slaves, whereas they themselves couldn't, on their own strength, as much as organize a cup of coffee
mircea_popescu: i suppose what happened to all of them is the same thing : one day their derealization came home to roost, and they were so alienated from their own existence, they hadn't actually prepared for the event.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:54:41 BingoBoingo: Anyways, the state of the US left is such that the ONE anti-war candidate did not make the latest round of primary debates. Tusli Gabbard: veteran, active reservist, and woman of color can't consistently poll over 2% enough to get on stage
mircea_popescu: not that THAT moron didn't hold the same laughable handshake "beliefs".
BingoBoingo: That the DNC is dead doesn't mean surviving hangers on won't try to put on a show
mircea_popescu can't be arsed to find the line, but w/e, was a one day wonder, "knows shit" in his own opinion retard.
mircea_popescu: looking at the matter from an in-universe fiction perspective, how the fuck's the collection of nobodies gonna enact identity ? they can't get behind any of themselves, they're all scum without exception as paradigmatic criteria.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i can't conceive how the pantsuit will manage to get a candidate. for one thing, trump did in fact end the dnc, as discussed in the logs.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the state of the US left is such that the ONE anti-war candidate did not make the latest round of primary debates. Tusli Gabbard: veteran, active reservist, and woman of color can't consistently poll over 2% enough to get on stage
BingoBoingo: As the boomers used to say "Don't trust anyone over 30" is how they keep the purges rolling
BingoBoingo: I don't see Putin's shift in US-relations as coming too late. US was very committed to blowing its Cold War winnings in Iraq. WTF was Russia to do other than work on the S-400 anti-"Shock and Awe" system and let the US burn treasure on everything else.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:26:32 BingoBoingo: And they, the cucky cocklets will probably just ignore this case, which should enter the canon, of why males can't survive the decision to align themselves with a "leftist" movement. If they live long enough their ideological spawn will eat them.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936884 << it's ok, they'll write some mealy mouthed comment in my general direction in some other channel about how they didn't this or that and all will be well.
BingoBoingo: It's also possible they don't manage to replace. FSF/OpenSource oppress poor artisan app studios, etc
BingoBoingo: Bulls still cripple the occasional farmer who turns their back. Grain lifting augers maim quite a few farmers. The fallout from Gawker et al. is that there isn't really much farming going on at the left farm.
BingoBoingo: I suspect English doesn't allow "controlled burns" in the way Mandarin does
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Where's he going to find a hallway. The kids controlling Stallmanable hallways have decided he needs to die, and he doesn't seem to have anything to offer anyone who employs in the saltmines.
BingoBoingo: And they, the cucky cocklets will probably just ignore this case, which should enter the canon, of why males can't survive the decision to align themselves with a "leftist" movement. If they live long enough their ideological spawn will eat them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't count the ustards as part of culture. saying "math died because mamie in chicago" is entirely like saying "medicien died because mamie in zimbabwe"
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936835 << they could. but they don't. exactly like a coal miner's wage doesn't cancel the black lung.
mircea_popescu: schmuck was gonna protect her from me. at the time you could not find a gun in ten counties surroundant who hadn't been on my payroll at some point or another, but he was gonna "protect", with his soccer watching crew an' leased toyota.
mircea_popescu: perhaps they found a golden cunt lying in the dirt, they might you know, take it home ? this can happen, no ? or if it can't happen then what were all the stories about ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 20:36:48 hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 00:07:56 asciilifeform: trinque: hypothetically might be interesting to see what programming greybeards are like on planet where can eat 9000 loc w/out breathing in nonsense dust. but i haven't been to that planet.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 19:54:58 hanbot: yo trinque, deedbot doesn't like hanbot-abroad's attempts to register with a pubkey pasted to paste.deedbot.org (Import failed), ideas?
asciilifeform: trinque: hypothetically might be interesting to see what programming greybeards are like on planet where can eat 9000 loc w/out breathing in nonsense dust. but i haven't been to that planet.
trinque: isn't loc though. you have a finite amount of exposure to nonsense before you kill someone else, kill yourself, or go mad.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 06:51:35 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936626 << heh. i guess the only practicable way to rent in the us is actually like lobbes stumbled upon : pick up chicks, don't put them on the lease, work them for the keep and dismiss when done.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936635 << couldn't tell ya. every once in a while I crack off a halfway decent neologism
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936596 << she can pull my levers just fine if bid, don't worry.
hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.
hanbot: yo trinque, deedbot doesn't like hanbot-abroad's attempts to register with a pubkey pasted to paste.deedbot.org (Import failed), ideas?
BingoBoingo: I can't recall that one.
diana_coman: in the process I updated the awk importer too but I don't even know if it's any use given that I'm not 100% sure what is "irssi standard format" really
diana_coman: it's one of those things where I can't figure out if they each "thought" the same nonsensical way to end up with the same shit or they just copied it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there isn't currently any such thing. ( what asciilifeform was orig. wanting to make, was a 'calendar page' thing. but not attempted yet. )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: is there a link to "first day of log" for a chan? I don't know if I just can't see it or there just isn't one.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936626 << heh. i guess the only practicable way to rent in the us is actually like lobbes stumbled upon : pick up chicks, don't put them on the lease, work them for the keep and dismiss when done.
mircea_popescu: ustard can't ask his fucking wife how much she makes, and this isn't "so that the corporations pay less because employees can't compare notes"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:59:04 mp_en_viaje: i can almost hear the cageworthy old woman impelling the nonsense, too, "oh, why don't you want to do $random-stupid-shit, ~are you too scared?!?!?!?~".
mircea_popescu: the hierarchy of consume-more-than-produce young females is very strictly 1. girls who found themselves a sponsor, who fucks them and pays their rent ABOVE 2. morons living in state-run orphanage. the SAME EXACT thing applies to boys too, just because you pay your own rent doesn't change the disposition in the field, doesn't make up down and down up.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the MOST important element, by far : as a young orphan (and if your dad dun have any duchies for you, you ARE an orphan, whether you admit it or not ; denial won't fix status) you WANT to get in the way of men-who-aren't-as-fucked-in-the-head-and-offensively-useless-and-retarded as that mongrel dog your drunk of a mother fucked to produce you.
mircea_popescu: if whatever the fuck it is "you have" can't be ~sold~, on the ~open market~, YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN IT.
mircea_popescu: if you're a young man, YOU DO NOT BUY ILLIQUID, NON-NEGOTIABLE ANYTHING!!!! i don't mean, with money. i mean with anything. you have enough sense to keep your sexual relationships at will rather than get fucking married, fine, but the same applies throughout.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, are you retarded ? if people who you don't know are making things for you, the name for the thing they're making is A TRAP
mircea_popescu: and in any case you don't buy crap made ~for you~ by people who ~you do not know~.
mircea_popescu: if you're not a fucking pimp, you don't buy real estate in your 20s. and if you are a pimp, you buy in fucking baltimore, you buy in the blighted downtown of detroit or philly or whatever the shit. NOT crap in suburbia ;
mircea_popescu: IF you are a young man, and are producing more than consuming (if not, please follow the recipe for gender re-assignment, you don't belong here), you should save ~in capital goods~ specifically ~of your trade~.
mircea_popescu: explains a lot, such as the "motorcycle" clubs consisting of fellows who buy motorcycle parts for an alleged motorcycle that has more in common with a tchotchke than an actual conveyance, IN THAT IT DOESN'T FUCKING MOVE
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936602 << okay, but what's the problem with it echoing "[trilema] <mircea_popescu> but i can't seem to find it ?!" rather than "<mircea_popescu> but i can't seem to find it ?!"
mircea_popescu: but i can't seem to find it ?!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform a [#chan] marker from bot sounds good to me; in #o for now at least I'd rather it cross-echoes indeed but I can see also why this might not be appropriate for #t
asciilifeform: asciilifeform to current landlord (another ru d00d) : 'you can keep the weather station tower when i go, i won't need it where i'll go'
lobbes: but I suspect you are correct re: human owners + geographics. Charlotte is a typical "bubble" city; low corp tax rates attract the banking industry, which fuels the need for meatworkers, but apparently NC doesn't produce skilled-enough workers on its own, so for the last few decades has been importing 'em (virtually all the people on my team are not from NC)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936574 << iirc lobbes said that he had it on credit, rather than owned. (but can't find in log, so maybe i dreamed it)
asciilifeform: this prolly won't go in until end of week, all changes to bot are to be tested to death before rollout.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 18:45:12 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936554 << holy shit this can't continue, if you folk are going to let the logreaders read from other channels (which, honestly, i'm considering banning) at least prepend an [channel name] before or something.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 14:19:48 lobbes: In other words, this is step II ain't it? The *fact* is that I'm poor, so I may as well accept that and stop pretending otherwise, yes? I.e. No palpable difference between 90K WFF per month and 30K WFF per month; they are both the same level of poverty
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 21:59:05 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936550 << i dunno dood, you're selling houses, being poor, it's a stu. you'll have to sort it out for yourself, i can't figure it out from over here.
lobbes will also cease quoting from other chans into #t
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936554 << holy shit this can't continue, if you folk are going to let the logreaders read from other channels (which, honestly, i'm considering banning) at least prepend an [channel name] before or something.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 14:19:48 lobbes: In other words, this is step II ain't it? The *fact* is that I'm poor, so I may as well accept that and stop pretending otherwise, yes? I.e. No palpable difference between 90K WFF per month and 30K WFF per month; they are both the same level of poverty
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936550 << i dunno dood, you're selling houses, being poor, it's a stu. you'll have to sort it out for yourself, i can't figure it out from over here.
lobbes: http://archive.is/5L8Cb#selection-1483.105-1483.280 << E.g. I think this is: "Don't break the balls! We see here people crossing the square grabbing a rope because the wind was blowing them to shit, families littered along the ropes. In your face Netflix!"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 14:46:06 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936485 << because my decision was made hastily and prematurely imo. I don't think I needed to resign. I did so thinking I could eschew choice, but that is stupid; can't ever eschew choice wtf. And this dumb move will result in loss of coolness, as mircea_popescu pointed out; loss of privilege.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936485 << because my decision was made hastily and prematurely imo. I don't think I needed to resign. I did so thinking I could eschew choice, but that is stupid; can't ever eschew choice wtf. And this dumb move will result in loss of coolness, as mircea_popescu pointed out; loss of privilege.
lobbes: In other words, this is step II ain't it? The *fact* is that I'm poor, so I may as well accept that and stop pretending otherwise, yes? I.e. No palpable difference between 90K WFF per month and 30K WFF per month; they are both the same level of poverty
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 11:58:51 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936363 << turn it whichever way you wish, lordship an' poverty don't work together. in all cases it's better to resolve shortfalls by increasing income rather than by reducing expense, and yes the point's well made that by the time a few hundy a month make a difference one has much more pressing problems than puttin
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936455 << I ofc can't find the log reference in o(1) time, but I remember you stating that the wisdom for wealth building is *spending less* rather than the converse. Maybe I'm missing the point tho
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 00:45:24 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936262 << sure, but the point is I gave my word back 2006 to *her* that if she cosigned I wouldn't default. Maybe I'm foolish but I like to keep my word. Plus, virtually everyone else in my family has backstabbed her / cheated her to some degree, to which she never became bitter about, but instead just put them out of her life and kept on working
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 11:55:12 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936360 << nobody's requiring you to take any specific decisions. the limit's the establishment of the facts, you said some things, i retorted because i didn't think they were necessarily factual, not because i thought you should do x or whatever.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:02:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936270 <<< nfi why they didn't simply lease the local army's materiel for a week. looks way the fuck better, defo cheaper than that dumb shit...
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936511 aka "life's good without a leg : the balls don't rub and there's no need for another boot"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:42:25 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936363 << turn it whichever way you wish, lordship an' poverty don't work together. in all cases it's better to resolve shortfalls by increasing income rather than by reducing expense, and yes the point's well made that by the time a few hundy a month make a difference one has much more pressing problems than puttin
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:02:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936270 <<< nfi why they didn't simply lease the local army's materiel for a week. looks way the fuck better, defo cheaper than that dumb shit...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:23:09 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936318 << you can't weld aluminium in air because the melting temperature of the metal is below compound formation energy. basically same reason you can't weld paper.
diana_coman: anyway, back to the lordship thing, it's not like worthy knights can't get promoted, quite on the contrary, that was the whole idea afaik
diana_coman: when "can't cope anymore" or similar
mircea_popescu: stoicism is one thing, but cynicism another. can't really mix the two!