asciilifeform: not that i personally give a damn whether a particular honeypot is artificial or 'wild.'
asciilifeform: at any rate, the incentive for the buggers to fabricate 'terrorist atrocities' is so overwhelming, that any such item is guilty until proven innocent of being just such a crock of shit.
asciilifeform: (for whatever value of 'criminal', in whatever kingdom or time)
asciilifeform: (for n00bs only: who is 'lizard hitler' ? a character approximately as real as magnetic field lines were to michael faraday. don't look for magnetic field lines, they aren't there. physically. or as far as we can tell, anyway.)☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: lizard-hitler loves it when his zoo animals fight ineffectually among themselves
asciilifeform: quite a few folks say 'ferguson' when discussion hypothetical phase transition, but i must disagree.
asciilifeform: pelosi is not in any sense afraid of random mrs. smith
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are still 'few old guys.' they see the remaining many as impostors, but are not particularly afraid of them. they have pills for this ('obamacare' etc.)
asciilifeform: while herr harpagon watches and laughs
asciilifeform: afaik traditional scheme is for the armies to fight in perpetual deadlock, as if they were the ruminants with horns set at such an angle as to be of no use
asciilifeform: nubbins`: see the discussion last year of the 'entropy' of the digits of 'pi'.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: none of the claims, for whatever measure of 'complexity', amount to anything more than farts in the wind.
asciilifeform: undata: in fact, i recall that he had a character who is being marched to a mafia execution, and offered a magic pill before being shot. the pill wakes him up to the idea that his mind is already being simulated on a 'computer' made of space dust, somewhere, if only 'interpreted correctly'
asciilifeform: undata: yes i recall that one. 'dust.'
asciilifeform: i have limited patience for it because of the sheer lack of predictive power.
asciilifeform: this is an ancient argument - 'the sea is very intelligent but we just aren't protocol compatible and can't see that it's even alive'
asciilifeform: or with an entirely non-interactive and ultimately easily described physical system that you simply don't grasp yet.
asciilifeform: or, at least, what they think of as themselves.
asciilifeform: this goes back to my complaint about the ai wishers. they aren't asking for 'intelligence', just a mechanical but recognizable version of themselves
asciilifeform: the way that my 4 walls are a repeating cycle of moves to me.
asciilifeform: who am i to say that a repeating cycle of moves is not 'house' for the automaton.
asciilifeform: same way you identify a house as a house.
