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gabriel_laddel_p: ditch
the whole stupidity of "caching"
the web, local storage etc
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: instead of having "web applications" we have a +v, invite only irc channel where our CL programs communicate. Well-formed messages are
treated as FTP endpoints
to download arbitrary information.
adlai: gabriel_laddel_p: please don't give me makework, it's more
than enough
to have received a rootset of (what's
the word
that means what 'people' actually mean when
they say 'hopefully'?) useful material.
phf: wait how does cl-ftp
ties into ircing?
Framedragger: i was not supposed
to do anything gabriel_laddel_p. stop with
the passive aggressive
tone already, it's annoying
gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: ^ another
thing you can do.
The patch
to fix CL-FTP is in
the logs.
gabriel_laddel_p: Framedragger was supposed
to put
this
together, but (surprise) has not.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel_p: phf: anyways, I have suggested using a +v irc channel + CL-FTP + beirc as a "CLIM-web" so we can ditch
the browser
tomorrow
gabriel_laddel_p: for
the record, does anyone know of an intelligent person who uses air fresheners/fabreez?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel_p can barely resist
the urge
to stick "google
toxic encephalopathy" under each air freshener I find.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the mined by another is probably
the operative concern.
gabriel_laddel_p: What _exactly_ was so wrong with blackboards
that
they had
to be done away with?
phf: gabriel_laddel_p: have you
tried resurrecting (?) beirc, seems like a proper
tmsr machine needs an irc client
gabriel_laddel_p: Godamnnit. I fucking _hate_ whiteboards and
these stupid fucking "air fresheners"
they stick all over
the place.
gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: anyways,
to
that point,
there is no deadline for any of
this, but your updates should be ~weekly and you should be working on it 6hrs+ a day if you want your life
to amount
to anything.
adlai: how's it go... "hidden are
the devil's machinations" (rough
transation of "nistarot hen darkei ha'el")
adlai: | size gradually enough
that users don't realize
they can pay lower fees again"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 06:27 ben_vulpes: eh,
the leaving of free money on
the ground baffles me.
gabriel_laddel_p: netmonk: I don't want all of
them (well, I do, but nevermind
that) - I want
the specific book & page number where knuth discusses balanced
ternery.
netmonk: gabriel_laddel_p: alright, but still, it's not so difficult
to find it on bittorrent
gabriel_laddel_p: netmonk:
then come back after a month or so and we'll see if we can have an actual conversation.
netmonk: gabriel_laddel_p:
that's a valid reason currently
phf: actually it would be nice if somebody were
to warez
the cross referenced version of
taocp
that was produced by
tug. stuff
that's on bittorent is junk
netmonk: not so difficult
to find
taocp on bittorrent
gabriel_laddel_p: also, if you could locate
the precise knuth book where he discusses balanced
ternery, and
then find me a warez copy,
that would be useful
☟︎ gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: anyways, iirc hackers delight is a bunch of
tricks for binary machines. I see no reason why you shouldn't just skip it.
adlai has lots of logs
to catch up before amending
the rating.
deedbot: adlai rated gabriel_laddel_p 1 << likely impostor until verified otherwise, still needs a bouncer; otoh,
talks plenty smart.
adlai: gabriel_laddel_p: fwiw, i intend
to finish
the hardcopy of hacker's delight
that landed in my life before properly digesting
the links you sent me, but out of politeness, i will skim
them first.
adlai: mircea_popescu: iiuc qpx is
the ~one~ proggy google did not rewrite in blub after it landed in
their laps
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. doesn't seem
to be going anywhere, iirc
they also bought matrix, and never integrated
adlai tells
that one story about
the math
teacher
that drew a line on
the blackboard,
then fisted it
to uproars from
the audience
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ah google has an airfinder
thing
too ? had no idea. apparently written in cl indeed.
adlai: (also you seem
to vastly overestimate my competence, which is fine - a common mistake. others here seem
to have a better idea of it)
adlai: also, don't laptop literally,
that literally kills
the sperm
gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: what runs on
the machine
that is actually sitting on your lap
adlai: and some sorta bsd but i don't own
the iron
adlai: no, and my
trb node never finished syncing either
a111: Logged on 2015-05-23 06:52 gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear
to me how wise
the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined
to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief
that
the current model of
that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival. << i figured (perhaps stupi
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 20:48 mircea_popescu: anyway, entertaining
the
thing as you describe at face value : if indeed your concern is a sort of bastardization as conceptually constructible from
the foregoing,
then
the correct move is
to build your masamune on musl and attach a license
that forbids
the empire (such as for instance
the
trb license ; or else one stating
to use must be in l2, or rated by you, or any such
thing).
this will mostly protect you both
technically
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 20:46 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598536 <<
the btcbase logs run on lisp for instance. in fact #tmsr is afaik
the largest lisp codebase in actual use (ignoring for a moment whatever portions of AWOG alf may wish
to bring up).
Framedragger: well, i'm sorry if i angered you, did not intend
that :)
Framedragger: this reminds me of when i earnestly
tried
to pull a "do you even positivism" russell's
teapot "prove it" on mp re. his claims on
Tor
Framedragger: take it easy friend,
things can be said and appreciated in jest :)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:24 Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598383 << reminds me of how i first chanced upon lisp. i was eighteen, more pretentious
than now, and had eaten my first hashcake half an hour ago. i was reading esr, jumped
to
topic of lisp and homoiconicity, and was like... d0000d.
this is how you penetrate
the universe. knowwhatimsayin.
mircea_popescu: feminine pov. if you're a herd animal,
trust === control.
netmonk: but
trust isnt mutually excluded with control
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i really only need it
to see when it's highlighted and
talk back.
mircea_popescu: i only have a vague idea of what im gonna do with it anyway, will clarify in
time.
ben_vulpes: new shiny entails capture of everything
that comes out of irc servers and service/command module
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you want an ircbot
to play with "now" and migration
to
trinque's new shiny be damned or do you want
to wait for
the new shiny?
ben_vulpes: battery
tie nuts were so solidly adhesed
to
the
ties
that
the rod snapped
mircea_popescu: which only adds
to
the amusement -- got data about what
they plan
to do in case data leaks which has been now leaked.
gabriel_laddel_p: when creating my image, why must I copy using cp -dpR /somedir/* /someotherdir/ rather
than
the -a flag?
mircea_popescu: it might be a good idea
to write all
these down ;
there's a decent chance people here may read, and a not negligible chance at least one knows why it fails.
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: something like
that.
There are a whole slew of issues:
the init
that Martin ships works fine, but if I substitute my own init - breaks. Among a million other
things I have don't understand, such as
gabriel_laddel_p: I cannot create an image
that comes with all
the required goodies without breaking something or other.
mircea_popescu: in my own mind, it's just unsquash
the image, impose a portage on it / make other customisations and resquash it. at least
that's how it ~should~ work what
the everloving fuck.
gabriel_laddel_p: If you know
the dozen lines of bash
that will do
this, do
tell.
gabriel_laddel_p: Yes. For one, I can't create a working livecd. Secondly, it should not
touch your personal files when replicating.
mircea_popescu: and
this is for some reason mroe
than a dozen lines of bash, for instance ?
gabriel_laddel_p: One of
the features I need
to complete is replication, which is
to say: "A single procedure call being all
that is necessary
to bundle
the entirety of
the (possibly heavily modified) sources into a redistributable bootable USB stick installer or network download. "
gabriel_laddel_p: Oh right. Masamune is a gentoo (no systemd) curated for (sbcl) lisp development only. It offers graphics, CAS & other mathematical libs all in
the same lisp process.
mircea_popescu: no you said you're
trying
to get a stick replication ?
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: "stick business"? You are referring
to
the analogy from ascii earlier?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel_p so what is
this stick business, a
tailored gentoo + masamune ?
gabriel_laddel_p: ^
the whole lordship should be able
to decrypt it on
the off chance you're curious.
phf: (in unrelated
tooling, mc is handy. i can see why asciilifeform still uses it. you can go pretty far with
the whole ofm paradigm, combine it with unix underneath, etc.)
netmonk: i used
to program in RPL on my hp48 back in
the day, does
that count ? :)
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you may continue
to comment on my blog, others may continue
to bitch,
there is no pleasing everyone