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mircea_popescu: Framedragger how about adding a · in between
timestamp and speaker, so
that
timestamp is still lined as now, but
the dot is linked
to make range ?
☟︎ Framedragger: eh well, an 'unset range' button (or range manipulation buttons) would help. (but
then,
those'd work over POST, so hidden state..)
mircea_popescu: in an attempt
to fix/improve republican infrastructure, mircea_popescu discovered his head is broken.
mircea_popescu: am i
the only one incidentally, who sees
this separation ?
mircea_popescu: dude, so clicking and copying a link are semantically separate in my head but obviously
the same
thing
to browser.
Framedragger: only way
to unset range was
to click on line above range
mircea_popescu: whereas my intention was
to result in a new single line highlight. yes yes i see.
mircea_popescu: oooohhh i know wtf it was! see, what it was was
this : you DID have it
this way, but
then i'd highlight one line or follow someone else's highlight, and i'd RIGHT CLICK another line, and
this'd result in a range.
Framedragger: (argument against
this is
that it does import a bit of complexity, of course)
Framedragger: well i had it
turned on until it pissed you off, so now it's manual-only. but you're right re.
third-click adjusting anchor, maybe
that's what's missing. would indeed be useful
to see
this in btcbase logs
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yeah but
typing-into-urlbar is distress signal.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 15:11 mircea_popescu: and i must be able
to figure out
the state by looking at
the url, which is why POST is not better
than GET but much, MUCH worse, and why it was pushed as part of "ssl",
typical usg-tardism
mircea_popescu: and if
they click outside
the range, go back
to state 1
Framedragger: (because
that'd make sense; anchor always remaining on
the first line of range is not always intuitive)
mircea_popescu: and i must be able
to figure out
the state by looking at
the url, which is why POST is not better
than GET but much, MUCH worse, and why it was pushed as part of "ssl",
typical usg-tardism
☟︎ Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so you mean
that if one were
to click on a line which falls in a previously-selected range (of highlighted lines),
the anchor would be adjusted but
the overall highlight range would be preserved,
too?
mircea_popescu: this is
the fundamental idiocy of "responsive" "2.0" web, ajax etc :
the fucking model is 1 page = 1 state.
that's
the only sane way
to have state over stateless
http mircea_popescu: Framedragger no problem is you did it on
the same page. add url-based state.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger but do it like
that you know, nude url + click -> highlights
that line ; highlighted line url + click -> highlights between
the
two. like a state machine based on url schema
Framedragger: fwiw i had
the first click + second click => range
thing but it confused you (and others) into accidentally selecting ranges unintentionally.
third click may make sense..
mircea_popescu: turns out
that his
thing is actually very useful when quoting
towards
the periphery.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 13:54 mircea_popescu: and
the other
thing :
that entire "it is unclear whether people aiming
to make an artificial friend have seriously considered
the much cheaper, ordinary kind" which i can't fucking find in
the log for some reason goes A LOT deeper
than generally realised. it's not "oh, i'm not discussing ai so it's not about me". yes, IT IS about you. if
the software you're contemplating aims
to
take fifty hours of engineer work
to replace fi
mircea_popescu: phf any idea on how
to replicate Framedragger 's logger multiline selection
thing without
the hassle ? maybe something like "first click, highlights line ; second click, highlights area ;
third click, highlights line within area" or such ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2015-09-25 21:50 mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285635 << exactly
the wrong kind of fucking ai. a) not actually intelligent ; b) negative -
the last
thing i fucking want
to see is mechanically powered women nagging ; c) not self contained - at least
the stupid nag you can beat into
the ground.
mircea_popescu: and
the other
thing :
that entire "it is unclear whether people aiming
to make an artificial friend have seriously considered
the much cheaper, ordinary kind" which i can't fucking find in
the log for some reason goes A LOT deeper
than generally realised. it's not "oh, i'm not discussing ai so it's not about me". yes, IT IS about you. if
the software you're contemplating aims
to
take fifty hours of engineer work
to replace fi
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't need a fucking power button
to recall i can
turn off
the box, i can
type shutdown just fine.
mircea_popescu: this formalizes
the problem with guis, "oh but mp, did you know you can italicize
text ???" yes bitch, i fucking know about
text italicizing. "no but maybe you forgot, here's a 60x60 pixel square on your screen shooting photons at your retina 60/60/24/7 so you remember". what
the fuck am i supposed
to be, a frog ?
that my brain has no remanence, entirely powered off
the visual field ?
mircea_popescu: and it's not ~just~ a horrible idea. it comes from a
thorougly broken
thought process. i'm not in fuckign school,
to be informed via a push interface. i am an adult, i will pull for what i want.
the only
thing
the world may do or should do is spread WHEN I SAY. and at no other point.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 05:59 gabriel_laddel_p: spoken
to you via a "siri"
type
thing
that doesn't suck?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599268 << no. for
the low low cost of adding a woman
to sit next
to
the woman driving, i could have implemented
this years ago. but honestly if
the car came so equipped i'd fucking shoot
the siri girl
to fix
the car. horrible fucking idea.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: (these i used
to buy like bitcoins in
the early 2000s, possibly best car ever made.)
mircea_popescu: before
that, s class,
the nice 500 90s series, but
then it went
to shit.
mircea_popescu: course ytou can't get
the nice w200s faces anymore i don't
think. because fucking "progress"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 05:50 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: even $100k lexus suffers from plastikitis, esp in doors compared
to classic benzo
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 03:55 asciilifeform: i recommend
to exempt it from
the usual
treatment,
trinque et al, until i invent some radically new mechanism for
the
thing
to work on, instead of postgres.
davout: i never claimed
to be in
the hosting business wtf
netmonk: you dont manage 500k servers like you manage
the 10 servers of paymium
☟︎ netmonk: but on
the backstage part,
they have very interesting point and
technology in use
netmonk: i dont know much on
their custemer support and product
netmonk: davout: but, at least,
they run a very big platform, and
they reach a very good state of automation, with fast CI.
netmonk: to make it short : ovh is good for hosting wp blog, online for
the rest :)
netmonk: online has arbornetwork, and
this solution is very efficient with ddos and stratum
davout: netmonk:
the main issue with ovh is
that
they are niggers. unfit
to do whatever
they're postering as doing
netmonk: difficult
to deal with massive ddos for a stratum based protocol
netmonk: the main issue with ovh is
their ddos anti system
davout: ah,
this article doesn't really elaborate on
the OVH part I guess
davout: "oh, guess only
the last few characters of
the password reset
token are actually random"
davout: they got
their passord reset interface haxxored sometime in 2013
ben_vulpes: funny, i had
that
thought when his photo went by in a link earlier
today
davout: ovh is a french company, stands for "on vous héberge" and are basically
the niggers of
the hosting business here in france
☟︎ ben_vulpes: you said "online is ovh's waifu" and i said "i have nfi what
that oldfag gibberish means"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 01:10 ben_vulpes: hey ovh why does it
take more
than fifteen seconds
to charge a cc? what do you use, bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: i don't know what sort of apology is due here as clearly nobody has ever even
tried
to apply
those patches
through a strict v, but i'm still going
to go slam my head in a door until i get some of
the stupid out
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: so duh, vdiff does not guarantee patches will be sensible in a v
tree, and it is incumbent upon a patch-grinder
to ensure
their patches actually apply cleanly.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: a question i have been wondering about for long is "why does
the
trb
tree sit in a 'bitcoin' directory, wherever it's pressed", but it is not particularly irrelevant.
ben_vulpes: now,
the patches apply cleanly if
the patch utility is not passed -p1, but
this makes for much floppiness.
ben_vulpes: trinque may confirm: i believe
that
this is due
to asciilifeform grinding (trb-)genesis.vpatch from an a/ and b/ containing a directory 'bitcoin'
ben_vulpes: i realize in
this moment
that i did not miss
the phuctorings.
trinque: that is beautiful paint on
the land cruiser.
trinque: fucking love
the
thing, roars, moves lesser machines
to
the side as if by magic.
ben_vulpes: #clim report, day whatever: #clim appears
to be 90% join/part spam from reineisch, 9% j/p from others, and 1%
this beach feller saying "good morning everyone"