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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was thinking she gets upt in half hour intervals
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/under-pressure-domestic-margin-trading-at-chinese-fiatbitcoin-interfaces-folding/ << Qntra - Under Pressure Domestic Margin Trading At Chinese fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Folding
ben_vulpes: so i guess in five minutes or so i'll restart her when freenode wakes up to the dead socket?
phf: oh somebody mentioned candi_lustt in a message, i think a111, and that triggered mp's code, which in turn has some exciting exponential properties
a111: Logged on 2017-01-13 20:13 candi_lustt: error: #<sb-int:simple-reader-package-error "The symbol ~S is not external in the ~A package." {10070E98E3}>
candi_lustt: The symbol "PASTE" is not external in the MPBOT package.Line: 1, Column: 72, File-Position: 72Stream: #<sb-impl::string-input-stream {1007504E23}>
ben_vulpes: also http://trilema.com/2017/my-three-days-of-ai/#selection-3947.0-4087.77 would be worth preserving whitespace in to make the point
trinque: ben_vulpes: if you princ that error iirc it wont fart out the format string
candi_lustt: error: The symbol "PASTE" is not external in the MPBOT package.Line: 1, Column: 72, File-Position: 72Stream: #<sb-impl::string-input-stream {10071B3B53}>
candi_lustt: error: #<sb-int:simple-reader-package-error "The symbol ~S is not external in the ~A package." {10070E98E3}> ☟︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : ben_vulpes would you join candi here and set everyone in l1 to its eat list ? i deem you've satisfied contractual obligations re support ; if you'll be kind enough to bring it back within a day or two should it get knocked off that's entirely fine by my lights. and everyone else : have fun with the lisp repl, but don't abuse.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/my-three-days-of-ai/ << Trilema - My three days of AI
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B216777E530792039BCD01CA8DB5D3834CAF576E9FCA906E9DB886AEF9CD7851 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1639...7709 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.200.63.156 (ssh-rsa key from 88.200.63.156 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SI)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B216777E530792039BCD01CA8DB5D3834CAF576E9FCA906E9DB886AEF9CD7851 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1514...3553 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.200.63.156 (ssh-rsa key from 88.200.63.156 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SI)
mircea_popescu: i have a solution for that, too! http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit is that places like oslo, bangkok, etc. with draconian auto tax, still have jams.
mircea_popescu: ironically, i'd make the auto tax 100x yearly average income.
asciilifeform: it so happens that i read all of the material from the naggum archive. and apparently d00d lived in oslo, a very strongly socialist hellhole, and hated it for all of the right reasons.
mircea_popescu: naggum evidently intends restrictions as to shape AND USAGE. this you don't see because you opt to, but in his world, as constructed from his words, it is legitimate for someone to come and tell you "this isn't a proper use of the public service", and it is illegitimate for you to retort "tough"
asciilifeform: 'available ad libitum to those within the walls'
asciilifeform: naggum, for instance, used payware lisptrons that cost megabux.
mircea_popescu: but in any case there's absolutely no progre monopoly on civilisation. on the contrary.
asciilifeform: 'public service' does not necessarily mean 'communist', just means that it is available to folks within the walls. can have price of admission, as in medieval germany, it is not specified how 'public road' is paid for.
mircea_popescu: this is a generous read to the point of wishful thinking, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: big city as in, new orleans, with low taxes and slaves. not as in new york, with high taxes, "public services" and "pronounce words this way"
asciilifeform: actually from my reading naggum's 'city' is simply 'place where the mains sockets work, the roads are smooth, and vehicle can be mercedes and not necessarily mule'
mircea_popescu: "big city" is very specifically NOT the big city where naggum dreamed to move, as depicted in sex and the city.
mircea_popescu: which is the point, somewhat.
asciilifeform: are we talking of same d00d? because the phf i recall sleeps in a tent, in arizona desert, surrounded by 48 virgins
mircea_popescu: it doesn't shock you, the man's delicacy ?
mircea_popescu: so no, civilisation doth exist irrespective of "follow the road and wear breeches"
asciilifeform: i must've missed one hell of a thread. where, e.g., phf was 'delicate'..?
mircea_popescu: phf for instance, is shockingly delicate, specifically because he's more from russia than you. and the japanese folk, ESPECIALLY back in the days when misspeaking to samurai == beheading, were remarkably delicate also.
asciilifeform: why does 'city with paved roads and indoor plumbing' necessarily equate to 'impotence' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is NO RELATION between civilisation and impotence.
mircea_popescu: much like his "car going off road is bad mkay" made my skin crawl. why the fuck would i ALWAYS go anywhere there's a road, what am i, too young to grow a beard ?
asciilifeform: this goes back to the 'tallest tower' thread.
mircea_popescu: there is no future, for the record, for the "big city" understood as rules of pronounciation, high taxes and "public services".
asciilifeform: 'Common Lisp is a big-city language. Spit out the hayseed, pronounce "shit" with one syllable and "shotgun" with two. You're not in Kansas, anymore. C is the language of the poor farmer village where the allocation of every seed and livestock matters, where taxes are low and public service non-existent.'
asciilifeform: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3236870273259433@naggum.net.html << possibly related, re the 'resources' thing
mircea_popescu: nice. wanted to re=read it anyway.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-02 01:12 phf: Nah, universally. A significant property of arrays shared across languages is that they give you some guarantees about access time, space utilization
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, anyone recall the link to the big array/list discussion cuz i can't fucking find it
a111: Logged on 2015-11-09 04:39 phf: which brings me to the point that i have folders for all but "make new hardware" item in that list of b-a scope in various states of disarray, and it would be great if there was some prioritization, like it was the case with eulora "oh we need this done, you do it".
mircea_popescu: digging through the logs to find a point of reference for " phf that actually goes back to a thread long time ago" i found http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-09#1320422 instead. how did the proposed solution work out for you phf ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i guess they're mostly going to be double bangs from now on huh.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E7AD433551E8685B6C4269A2AA6E66E19F80FB175F3F0A4DE9756009B0D8166F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1509...9469 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.245.149.177 (ssh-rsa key from 77.245.149.177 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host177.b6.trdns.com. TR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E7AD433551E8685B6C4269A2AA6E66E19F80FB175F3F0A4DE9756009B0D8166F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1673...8977 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.245.149.177 (ssh-rsa key from 77.245.149.177 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host177.b6.trdns.com. TR)
mircea_popescu: nooow then, let's continue with this lisp thingee.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-13#1602076 << tyvm! ☝︎
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Salina Turda - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salina_Turda>; Salina Turda Salt Mine: <http://salinaturda.eu/%3Flang%3Den>; Salina Turda amusement park in Romania - Business Insider: <http://www.businessinsider.com/salina-turda-amusement-park-in-romania-2015-7>
mircea_popescu: !~google salina turda
asciilifeform: ^ turda was that salt mine, neh...?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/45E4A3D82B00CD7ABE8C7B8A8D4D7059537E8FA49B3C32412717747121DC260A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1732...9279 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.43.200.1 (ssh-rsa key from 89.43.200.1 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (router.radionetturda.ro. RO CJ)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/45E4A3D82B00CD7ABE8C7B8A8D4D7059537E8FA49B3C32412717747121DC260A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1381...4983 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.43.200.1 (ssh-rsa key from 89.43.200.1 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (router.radionetturda.ro. RO CJ)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FF2442CFB191352BD53447D8F8503979922170EB8A5C26F5519753EF821DD7CE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1603...7073 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.55.70.42 (ssh-rsa key from 80.55.70.42 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (rs42.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FF2442CFB191352BD53447D8F8503979922170EB8A5C26F5519753EF821DD7CE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1436...1637 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.55.70.42 (ssh-rsa key from 80.55.70.42 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (rs42.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL)
trinque: asciilifeform: they were doing an update on your mitmtron, all done now
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/44F62448613E25FDD256C73528E8A74A5B2D9E404B983F011BB453F9794A7838 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1518...1933 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.33.170.204 (ssh-rsa key from 217.33.170.204 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown GB)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/44F62448613E25FDD256C73528E8A74A5B2D9E404B983F011BB453F9794A7838 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1442...1479 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.33.170.204 (ssh-rsa key from 217.33.170.204 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown GB)
BingoBoingo: lol, ben_vulpes spent all the effort ridding himself of disposable VPS constructs, and now has problem which suggest leaning on them again
mircea_popescu: aaand happy fri the 13th
mircea_popescu: basic tool of bitcoin network intel.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point is mostly block timing / discovery. you can compare when various anon nodes see blocks to evaluate both the network and any hostile activity.
asciilifeform: i.e. dulap will occasionally drop zoolag! and there is currently nothing i can do to force it not to
a111: Logged on 2017-01-12 23:25 mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes : you might consider making yourself a process to stand up vps instances of listener nodes to spray out at you new blocks as they hear them.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1602003 << we do not, afaik, presently have a knob in trb that would enable the 'at you' part of this. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1602020 << this is pretty nifty. ☝︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/74B2839A28A26465F882A81738A18BEC4A02D2E88EBD03C709894390DDDD641F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1711...4937 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.68.93.14 (ssh-rsa key from 80.68.93.14 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (oblivion.extols.co.uk. GB)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/74B2839A28A26465F882A81738A18BEC4A02D2E88EBD03C709894390DDDD641F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1794...4017 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.68.93.14 (ssh-rsa key from 80.68.93.14 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (oblivion.extols.co.uk. GB)
mircea_popescu: so i tried to watch naked (2013). the most i can say is that the atrocity is a fine explanation of why there isn't such a thing as english philosophy.
ben_vulpes: https://igoradamenko.github.io/awsm.css/elements.html "div isn't styled because it doesn't have semantic value" << i like this attitude
asciilifeform: file under the 'laptops suck' thread.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski posted link to $10k x86 lappy. and asciilifeform remarked that it is similar box to what he built for nowhere close to 10k usd.
asciilifeform: you buy the boards, the tin, etc. and they snap together in exactly 1 way.
pete_dushenski: lolk just needed that point of reference. ty.
asciilifeform: 'remarkable build' for pc would be, say, water cooling thing made from toyota. ( asciilifeform had this nonsense as a student. )
pete_dushenski: you set the bar here, not me. i'm genuinely curious what alfatronic 'remarkable build' looks like.
asciilifeform: which q. i'm trying to work in order here
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: wasn't the question. care to answer it ?
asciilifeform: where was he in the 90s
asciilifeform: and srsly, pete_dushenski never had to build pc?!
pete_dushenski: for the ignorant, what is remarkable build ? lispmachine on iphone ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and it took a coupla hours.
ben_vulpes: ya fuck 'em, get in the wot
pete_dushenski: but that still leaves a lotta jews w/o blogs who have no dentist in the fam!
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: heh. my father in law too. girl idem ;)
asciilifeform: ended up with a thing ~= the size of a breadbox.
pete_dushenski: lol! ok, let's hear it. why is it bullshit ? because you know an indian guy who will do it in the back of his dirty van ?
ben_vulpes: well no that is bullshit
pete_dushenski: "why is this root canal $1000??!"
ben_vulpes: "thirty minutes and ten years"
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: and how much time did it take you ? how much of your incomparable expertise did it require ? if little, and you made laptop not desktop, you win.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i am on my own perversely enjoyable swim through the filth atm
asciilifeform: (unless the year is 1995 and it's a 'tadpole sparcbook' etc)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i just built a heathentron box with very similar specs, for roughly 1/4 the cost
pete_dushenski: in other other strange that should've died two decades ago but lives, anyone missing their old apple 'portable' now has a latter day option : https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-predator-21x/preview/
pete_dushenski learned about wiki hyperlinking in the process. it's... different.
pete_dushenski has updated eulora ubuntu wiki with danielpbarron's archived site now that foxybot is part of the stock downloaded package
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: It's not just you. danielpbarron.com/ appears to be down.