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mircea_popescu: that's why the original lordship discussion says "it's not an argument that these are the best, we don't care who's the best. these -- are."
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 15:19 mircea_popescu: and entirely unrelatedly : anyone willing to stand up an irc bot for me (as a service for hire deal) and expose some kind of programmable interface that can read messages to it, process and push out a reply ? bonus points if i don't have to learn crazy-shitstick-"$modernlanguage".
mircea_popescu: (by spaces i mean spaces of possibilities, you can write any succession of letters but can't make any molecule you need work the way you'd expect)
mircea_popescu: i really don't give a shit what anyone wants.
mircea_popescu: will doesn't enter into it one way or another.
asciilifeform: ( formatting hdd, that is. doesn't )
asciilifeform: hey who didn't think of 'say virus installed linux' in 1998
mircea_popescu: mine isn't.
asciilifeform: only works because it doesn't result in operating box.
asciilifeform: this doesn't magically become a description of a working scheme, by mircea_popescu stating so
mircea_popescu: the solution is that some "people" will accept noobs and some won't. in practice, everyone will run multiple interfaces and thassat.
mircea_popescu: any C could at any point be a S or not be a S (and because of encryption observer can't even tell which it is)
mircea_popescu: and also why rando neckbeard can't do himself.
mircea_popescu: and yes the fact that the list of S must be at least a dozen different lists and each a grosse long is why we can't do this arbitrarily early.
mircea_popescu: back to it -- once A knows what ip B is at and B knows what ip A is at, they can exchange crafter packets to the point of parlaying it into an established connection. in order to find these, they both rely on their peers. if they have no peers, they don't properly speaking exist, and an angel from above in the shape of a tmsr lord will have to bless them with the spark of life.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-23 23:34 mircea_popescu: what fucking fix. they can't open it anymore than they can fuck the woman on the deserted island. "nobody to introduce us!!1"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is only a problem in the sense of "i have decided to not work today so i can't"
asciilifeform: if serf can't get on the actual net, this is not something that can be solved ~for~ him by anyone else
asciilifeform: it can't really be vanished away without killing 'tcp to arsebook' etc also. as i currently understand it.
trinque: which amusingly enough is emitted right before this comment in pf.c: /* This really shouldn't happen!!! */
asciilifeform: that ain't a solution.
mircea_popescu: "i have boxes that don't respond to unknowns and no way to make unknowns known can has solution ?" alfian style problem.
asciilifeform: it ain't a solution if it merely redefines the problem as 'the way life is'
mircea_popescu: anyway -- the way to collect is that you don't have to pay for a S coming up. just like the car using less gasoline -- you do collect.
asciilifeform: it doesn't provide monetary incentive, any more than today's expense of running a proper node magically transforms into compensation
asciilifeform: and it can't because D has no way to contact the A and B pair .
asciilifeform: this was actually my 1st thought, essentially, 'why can't it be C for D'
asciilifeform: you can't presently 'become C for D'
mircea_popescu: no, because C doesn't need to be around.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's the thing : we don't actually have the problem of nat traversal. in the following sense : gossipd is not intended to work without introduction. as part of the introduction, the introducer server can provide ips. those can then be used for everything, bitcoind, you name it.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this may be a "yes, meanwhile all", haven't looked.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687147 << twasn't a joke, evidently the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686643 is right on point. ☝︎☝︎
pete_dushenski: aha. archive.is didn't eat it : https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politics ☟︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: su didn't do the remote-disable thing, for exported iron
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: try as i might, i can't follow this
pete_dushenski: just because you're eating the liver, doesn't mean you won't find another source of food when it's gone or as soon as the aging father finally croaks. but this is a stretch analogy.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'doesn't need no moar' is immaterial -- just like a freshly cut out liver is still trying, best as it can, to do its enzymatic business as if nothing happened, same -- reichs
pete_dushenski: reich doesn't need challenging anymore, does it. looks like it's pretty well occupied with the enemy within.
pete_dushenski: 'yeshiva' needn't be as public as i made it is all
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680613 << i undertook 'yeshiva' which didn't explicitly involve log highlighting and dissection even if it sometimes turned out that way. i should actually make a separate category on the ol' blog for #t logs levitan'd ☝︎
pete_dushenski: you think anyone takes usg's ip racket seriously anymore ? this isn't then 1960s
pete_dushenski: and hello #t !
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: blackzilla is enjoying the seasonal weather more than i'm enjoying the seasonal smoke. being downwind of the massive bc fires isn't doing wonders for the ol' respiratory tract. (waking up coughing, etc.) . needless to say i've a newfound appreciation for the sorry denizens of chinese mega-cities. it's one of those "you never know what you've got until it's gone" (tm) things ☟︎
asciilifeform is mildly surprised that there isn't, as of yet, such a thing
mircea_popescu: "html trier-and-errorer" doesn't have the same ring to it.
mircea_popescu: twasn't, per se, "gotta have... corn! as far as the eye can see" in any way or in any sense other than the 1950s romanians being impressed with the ro commies "a LINE OF TRACTORS! 100 deep!!!"
mircea_popescu: "I'm now an HTML coder at a startup in San Francisco. The &ldquo;World Wide Web&rdquo; has enabled me to crawl out of my debt-hole and bootstrap myself into the lower middle class. For the first time in my adult life, I can afford to <b>eat</b> in restaurants where I don't<b> work.</b" << if anyone's curious or keeping score, THIS is what impels all the dizzy dorks of today. their very own VHS tapes, if you will.
trinque: they're all going in; what's this "the one thing they don't want you to know about dead fish"
asciilifeform: i'm almost surprised they don't assume orbit
asciilifeform: just as the replacement freons. because it wasn't about toxicity.
shinohai: Otherwise USG wouldn't be payong benefits to all these peeps that developed cancer from Agent Orange in Vietnam
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: makes my lips numb, i don't really want it in the house.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't put it in the house.
mircea_popescu: prostitution wasn't on the table. more like marriage.\
mircea_popescu: wouldn't that be racist ?
shinohai: Don't like the current face? Just airbrush another on!
asciilifeform: you wouldn't invite a walrus to your table either ( other than perhaps as main course )
asciilifeform: because it wasn't an illusion only lived by the wankers. but, to some extent i suspect by everyone, this notion that 'there's enough sunlight'
mircea_popescu: entitlowank. somehow it wasn't so offensive in the 90s
mircea_popescu: soon enough it's http://btcbase.org/log/2013-02-16#-121196 and then it's "rich people don't learn languages" and on it goes from there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: doesn't even care how wide your machineword is
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 13:44 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gavinlandia, https://archive.is/KOhTm >> 'Resolution is to either guarantee there are non-bit1 signaling miners before enforcing (kind of incompatible with the definition of 80% activation), or manually guarantee the the graph of enforcing miners is connected.' << d00d realizes that the softshitfork thing won't work without cartel... proceeds to demand one
asciilifeform: ( you can't dns from a statically linked glibc. but this does not bother me )
asciilifeform: dope ain't new. goring had his morphine and equally ineffectual cock
trinque: or tell me, is the public chiming in re: phuctor? doesn't seem like such a thing cares, if it exists
asciilifeform: naturally it ain't the victim's decision, when his key is phuctored
mircea_popescu: so no, amd hasn't released.
asciilifeform: a backdoor ain't burned unless publicly.
mircea_popescu: "the public" isn't happening anymore. democracy (as the modernist nonsense) is gone.
mircea_popescu: you can't actually find a case where anyone has any legitimate complaint against the world. hasn't, yet, happened.
mircea_popescu: zee germans, getting it in every hole from teh brits, didn't really do much in the way of "shot british spy" photo ops.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how repeating this pattern is : whosoever is on the receiving end of the cock, whatever the cock may be, doesn't really want porn around.
asciilifeform: most famously the d00d in the photo -- wasn't
mircea_popescu: in any event, the pretense of hey, we're just talking hurr isn't going to take one far here. if that wasn't obvious.
daffadil: Ya I didn't understand all details but I read it.
asciilifeform: 'It's also interesting to note that some miners are signalling to orphan themselves. Antpool, BTC.com, and BTC.top are all signalling for BIP 91 with bit 4, but are not signalling for segwit on bit 1. This means that once BIP 91 activates, if they don't change their version number (and it seems that this is a manual process as most mining pools set the version number manually), they will be orphaning their own blocks under the BIP 91
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gavinlandia, https://archive.is/KOhTm >> 'Resolution is to either guarantee there are non-bit1 signaling miners before enforcing (kind of incompatible with the definition of 80% activation), or manually guarantee the the graph of enforcing miners is connected.' << d00d realizes that the softshitfork thing won't work without cartel... proceeds to demand one ☟︎
asciilifeform: ave1: can't be the reason, i have it working on 4.9
lobbes: BingoBoingo: <lobbes> damn. looks like my plans for my old craptop being a trb node will have to wait until I secure better iron. << Why can old craptop not eat SSD? << wtf I didn't even consider this. And yeah, this'll be a great opportunity to clean out the physical crap that's probably choking out the airflow in the thing.
asciilifeform: it isn't like you gotta clean it with own tongue
mircea_popescu: well certainly people who don't know they come apart don't regularly anything.
mircea_popescu: possibly he doesn't want to pop the lid.
asciilifeform: it doesn't hurt to try
mircea_popescu: i can't fwiw
mircea_popescu: otherwise, in order of cheapness-effectivity : 1) get an isolated box for rsa ops. this shouldn't ever connect ot the internet. stuffing into it a stick which was in a net-connected machine counts.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686392 to this point : depends how much you're worth. if you're worth nothing, then you are thereby "safe" in this sense, that while protein rich i still don't eat the moths in my house. ☝︎
sina: "today, until a constanttime solution is in place, gpg is the tool of choice for RSA encryption. any time you use it, you can't know whether you have completely compromised your private key. and we use it anyway."
asciilifeform: whereas if you simply DON'T MOTHERFUCKING LEAK, it doesn't matter if 500, 5,000,000, whatever.
trinque: and it wasn't a specific example
asciilifeform: sina: you DON'T KNOW that it's 500
asciilifeform: there isn't a 'to whom', that's what word 'broadcast' ~means~
asciilifeform: otherwise may or may not, but YOU DON'T KNOW which
asciilifeform: the 'release modular exponentiation result after time T' is an armoured propeller.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently it didn't take.
mircea_popescu: sina doesn't have to be "emr". it can be the resonant behaviour of your power lines or the acoustic polution in the room or ping delays or anything else.
whaack: i'm not advocating one doesn't make an effort to learn, I'm just pointing out that the material covered does not "fit in head" (as alf puts it) very easily and thus the main thing gotten from that book, for me at least, is the deep complexity involved with some of these schemes
mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit whaack 's earlier lament : never trust the man who says "don't worry your pretty head, sweet" unless you're quite meaning to be whored out ; because meaning or not, it's gonna happen.
trinque: of course what if it doesn't fire
mircea_popescu: some people are curious ; some aren't.
whaack: what's the point of learning crypto for plebians, the concepts are too hard to follow. there are so many traps in number theory, and the argument to believe that using a scheme like RSA is secure requires understanding so many lemmas. It's so easy to make a false proof, how can one not believe they're not being duped (intentionally or unintentionally) along the way to enlightenment. The one time pad is really the only thing I trust to t