asciilifeform: i'm not sure why it even matters what the gavinists do, so long as the original blockchain continues to run as designed. it then remains a 'hawala' between actual people, and zimbabwe can do whatever
asciilifeform: and whatever's on the other end of the belching smokestack, isn't ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i always found it rather odd that folks who very easily see the problems with, e.g., pollution of the atmosphere or of the sea, fail to grasp an exactly analogous argument re: inflation
asciilifeform: the more furious their activity around it, the more folly. they will come no closer to understanding, e.g., battery
asciilifeform: savages, by definition, cannot properly apparehend a flashlight.
asciilifeform: i'll take the liberty of quoting old article of mine: ' I can’t help but picture a flashlight or a radio set, left behind in the wilderness by geologists, to be picked up later by some Stone Age aboriginals; to be fought over and worshiped. Until the batteries run out. But the batteries have not yet run out! The flashlight shines, the radio plays. Let’s listen and hear what it plays. '
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, back when there was a roughly similar 'messianic' cargo cult around pgp (the original pgp) - the folks involved more or less missed all the interesting implications of their toy.
asciilifeform: ^ i noticed this when writing the 'mpex review' article
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'march from me to the next oak tree.'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: one can conceive of 'wallet' that doesn't try to abstract over the actual mechanics of bitcoin
asciilifeform: or what, you didn't think 'kyc' extends to private keys?
asciilifeform: you'll know gotterdammerung isn't far when usg btc-fiat exchange handlers start lifting from the pots, in broad daylight, and leaving their 'patients' to take the blame.
asciilifeform puts for the record that he is very much looking forward to the first case of goxian btc theft that can only be explained by an overenthusiastic politruk and his root pw.
asciilifeform: re: rms and his oddities, i'd note that quite a few (most?) folks would end up regarded as similarly odd, if they somehow were set free to do wtf they pleased☟︎
asciilifeform does not know what to believe, but did at one point meet an actual live woman who spoke at length of writing to rms and wishing to make close acquaintance - no luck
asciilifeform: mats: gcc... a) i dont get it... << what's the hard concept here? rms wishes to avoid gcc turning into a sweet and defenceless piece of candy for the 'embrace & extend/extinguish' folks.☟︎
asciilifeform recalls now the discussion of 'what do the mega-miners run, and why should they ever wish to tell us'
asciilifeform: and astonishing how long folks have been putting up with it.
asciilifeform: but it's especially ludicrous for safety-critical proggy
asciilifeform: has anyone considered how preposterous the entire notion is, of bitcoin depending in the least bit on crud in external libs that can change on a whim ?
asciilifeform: unless you'd like to hire them in pairs.
asciilifeform: i expect to be a minority of one on this, but i'd much rather see it done by one of the folks here, than by a great sage who may or may not have been suborned (or shall be as soon as enemy gets wind of intention)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, doing the 'nix openssl' thing from therealbitcoin idea list ?
asciilifeform: iirc rms is concerned about something quite valid - gcc has excellent front-end and ast-level optimizations, while at the same time, a middling-to-poor set of back-ends (depending on cpu arch)
asciilifeform: but apple, etc. love it on account of no gpl
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: picture the fool who buys this, with his credit card, has it sent, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got a piece of junk mail once, advertising specially-made capsules (for folks who have no idea how to use a saw or glue?) for buring rifles.
asciilifeform: wasn't on a list the day before, and now you are.
asciilifeform: xe4l: let's start with the fact that 10mb/s will instantly promote you to your isp's 'hog list' in some, if not all, isp
