asciilifeform: probably even of 'lèse-majesté'.

asciilifeform: and yes, he is probably guilty of, among other things, insulting a loyal servant of the crown.

asciilifeform: hanbot: for various reasons, brown was a good 'example to be made'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most that can be done is to button it up so that replacing bootloader requires soldering on the missing uart pins

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the flip side of the medal is that these things are not the least bit difficult to reprogram. i can easily picture the phoundation distributing an 'upgrader' anyway

asciilifeform: wasn't even thinking of remote upgrade, but local (insert image on stick)

asciilifeform: we could conceivably 'tivoize' the thing

asciilifeform: because guess who is certain to ask 'install upgrade plz'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was my thought.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any thoughts re: whether we want an upgrade mechanism in the toy node ?

asciilifeform: preferably - to san jose

asciilifeform: preferably maximally armed, demented africa

asciilifeform: when do we get africa brought to these folks.

asciilifeform: 'let's use machine whose architecture is in no sense standardized, with approx. the performance of a 486 dx-100'

asciilifeform: the 'let's run complex proggies in the browser' thing is monumentally retarded. esp. in light of how it actually works in practice (e.g. js and its all-numerics-are-floats, etc)

asciilifeform: 'work'

asciilifeform: (what's a xerox 'dolphin' ? this: http://www.digibarn.com/friends/alanfreier/index.html )

asciilifeform: which is to say, you might admire the patience of the maker, but at the end of the day, the only question is - 'why?'

asciilifeform: punkman: the x86-in-js emulator is at least 2 years old, and is about as interesting as a full-sized replica of the eiffel tower made from toothpicks.

asciilifeform thought that this could have been an emulator for the xerox dolphin, very disappointed

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: hence, one might learn something by trial and error (entirely possible to smoke the chip, sure.)

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: afaik, nothing has ever leaked re: the microcode structure. all that is known is how to invoke the updater, the approximate structure of the blob, and the fact that - unlike intel's - there is no crypto/authentication

asciilifeform: lol! same 'badbitcoin' that was funded by gaw ?

asciilifeform: what's a habit system ?

asciilifeform: state saving and restoration << sbcl's 'save world and die' ?

asciilifeform: !s macsyma

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: macsyma ?

asciilifeform: !b 3 ✂︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: toy car radio remote.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: obligatory: http://www.krasnoyeznamya.ru/gallery/rm_21_489.jpg

asciilifeform: mats: dictionary attack, snore.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, anyone else who is interested in node on 'pogo' - buy yourself the box (pogo model 4.) i intend to post a recipe soon.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: e.g., patent office.

asciilifeform: actually, usg ministries where no official secrets are involved - now routinely let folks grunt remotely

asciilifeform: if only it were entirely dead

asciilifeform: there is rail here. it is mainly used to get in and out of wash., d.c.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the road never actually gets expanded, of course. but there is endless derp on the subject, for so long as i've lived here (~11 years)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laugh if you must, but my town still has these same meetings.

asciilifeform: lol, yeah, see recent thread where i 'what's a gb optic terminal cost plz'

asciilifeform: death of the auto >> obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2014#833541 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't that hard to port, e.g., sbcl, to 'metal' - but then you end up in driver hell.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see earlier experiment of the same flavour, 'movitz'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that one is after nubbins` prints the fscking book and i read it

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: when do we get cobol node

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how does one go about crushing diamond? hydraulic press?

asciilifeform: see the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: diamond cleaves along crystal plane - how do you suppose folks cut them prior to lasers ?

asciilifeform: obligatory: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2015#985211 ☝︎

asciilifeform: Can Have Problems (tm) !

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: go straight for MAXINT.

asciilifeform linked this for a reason.

asciilifeform: obligatory: https://gist.github.com/pete/665971

asciilifeform: but not often have seen this in life.

asciilifeform: i can picture a surface so mirror-smooth that barnacles cannot stick.

asciilifeform: or...

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hard to say. dead rat and dead lion get eaten by crows just the same

asciilifeform: the pleasures of reinvention ?

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: (satoshi did not go in for book-learning, it seems, esp. re: data structures, but that doesn't mean that we have to forget school) ☟︎

asciilifeform: chain of pointers << tree. ☟︎

asciilifeform had to open a book

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rather painful to read for anyone who is not in a daily habit of birthing similarly flavoured monstrosities

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's actually heavily idiomatic cpp. with extensive use of 'high level construct' libs like 'boost' ('iterate', various data structure diddles, etc.)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is just the kind of manual which ought to live in a 'lions book' commentary on source.

asciilifeform: so the postulates aren't orthogonal.

asciilifeform: seems like it all sits inside 'validate blocks', no ?

asciilifeform: does 'grep' include stemming? nein.

asciilifeform: it simply needs to get off the planet. it is an instrument of muppetry, plain and simple.

asciilifeform: because it must.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have been repeating, like mantra, 'stemming search must die'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: lol i sorta assume he'll be there.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes guest speaker ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because you showed symptoms of understanding correctly how it works

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sorta assumed that you either read it, or had it read to you, or wrote compatible gadget

asciilifeform lazy

asciilifeform: aha, did not check

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-111701 << 'confirmed' << i ponied up on 12/31, where's the 'confirmed'

asciilifeform: exhortation, from now on, abbreviated for convenience, 'RTFT' (read the fucking turd.)

asciilifeform: you might need a decade to find all the weird, quasi-exploitable hair, but to get a basic understanding of how the thing works - is another matter. very doable.

asciilifeform: srsly it's finitely long. just do it.

asciilifeform: now is the time for folks who have not actually bothered to read the fscking source, to confess.

asciilifeform: all you can verify, both the most and the least you can verify, are BLOCKS. << yes.

asciilifeform: !up Alina-malina

asciilifeform out to meatspace for a spell

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, et al : these boxes won't be ready for battlefield until seeding patch.

asciilifeform: if only so that 'pogo' node can be pointed to it.

asciilifeform: i was actually going to suggest that ben_vulpes et. al. run an ntp server.

asciilifeform: most if not all public ntp is operated by governments, yes.

asciilifeform: oscillator (upper left hand) is socketed and you can yank it.

asciilifeform: the coax connectors are clock in/out

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=668 << see photograph in this article

asciilifeform: golden contacts naturally

asciilifeform: interestingly, fpga dev boards often have bayonet connectors for external clocking.

asciilifeform: an actual computer would have, at minimum, an 'oven' oscillator (capsule can also house rng.) or even rubidium oscillator.

asciilifeform: there are no 'professional' x86 boxes, only hypertrophied pc.

asciilifeform: decimation: and you still need an oscillator, given as the tick counter in cpu (x86-64 has one, but it is not a universal) can stop during low-power modes

asciilifeform: decimation: not entirely pointless, as poorly written os assumes a notion of local time before network bringup

asciilifeform: hound poorly fed.