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mircea_popescu: in summa,
this
then is
the covenant of
the republic :
that everything here exists
to serve your needs ; and
that you can't have needs
that can't be.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm aware palm calculators exist for a while now.
they don't "fix math" for
the blonde ditz.
mircea_popescu: for
the exact same reason classical antiquity couldn't have blind emperors ; we
today can't delegate "the people stuff"
to others. we also cant' delegate "the numbers stuff"
to others.
there's no mechanical way out of
this.
mircea_popescu: skills are skills.
the expectation
that one will go from craddle
to grave without having
to
touch arbitrary class of skills "because i just don't go
that way" is entirely hallucinant nonsense.
mircea_popescu: which she isn't, visibly,
to me. and
to her. and
to no one else.
mircea_popescu: so obviously her
task at some point
turned
to... go out and
talk
to women. IN
THE FUCKING STREET. she broke up in hives, she got gastritis, but my stick was firmer
than
the flesh and within a few short weeks retrospectively (that no doubt seemed endless
then) acquired all
the required skills, abilities and practices, and now can
talk
to random person on cue, with
the best of
the salesmen.
mircea_popescu acquired new $slavegirl. intelligent girl, very educable (i don't just mean in
terms of
training-for-slavery, a la BCT, i mean scholarily, with a native
thirst for knowledge and a natural dedication
to clean
thinking) and altogether very pleasant. for historical reasons, unexperienced socially (twentysomething, second
time she was in a bar, i
took her
there) and not particularily capable of
talking
to people.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 12:08 davout: "l'avenir appartient à ceux qui se lèvent
tôt"
mircea_popescu: ~nobody wants
their name on
their
tits ; a degree of magnitude more
than
that ~nobody want
the blouse off
the
tits.
mircea_popescu: if it actually were what it pretends,
they'd be
topless.
mircea_popescu: that's what it pretends
to be ; what it is i nfact, at least
to my eyes, is more of
the same usg social-democracy.
mircea_popescu: usg.starbucks doing its part
to fight
the "rapey mp coffee".
mircea_popescu: Framedragger but
the example shows ~shouldn't~ not ~doesn't~.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: names of women you fucked. i know
the names and
there aren't
too many of 'em. and for some strange indefensible reason i
think
this applies
to many folx here. but
this is a
tangent
mircea_popescu: argument is "keeping
track of non-wot-ids is pointless, shouldn't be done"
Framedragger: (something
tells me
that mircea_popescu's latest example does not work amazingly well here)
mircea_popescu: i know names of women ; some of which i've not fucked ; but not on
that basis.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so. do you know
the names of all
the women you fucked ?
mircea_popescu: to quote celentano, "i already met enough people
this month"
mircea_popescu: to obtain a handle one must do specific
things ; if
they don't,
they don't. i don't give out handles like candy because why would i.
mircea_popescu: i don't distinguish between eg adlai or nubbins ; i haven't allocated a handle ;
they're just $dork, whatever.
mircea_popescu: underlined as such in
the wot article
too.
that's
the important point : wot works WITHOUT
the person being examined.
mircea_popescu: the wot works entirely unrelatedly
to
the person examined,
that's
the point.
mircea_popescu: were
the girls in
the school were asciilifeform went
to when he was 12 ever engaged in
that procedure where
they call up one boy pretending
they're $randomgirl who
trulyloveshim for
the sake of seeing wtf happens next day in school ?
mircea_popescu:
the basis of
THAT decide i'm waking up in
the same place.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how much of
this is habit. consider for a second
the case of
the nickname dude, who is currently having a meltdown in my comment section on
the apparent expectation
that i somehow care what he said and i read
the various comments as comming ~from
the same one guy~. he actually
thinks
this ; actually expects me
to allocate INDIVIDUALITY on
the basis of anonymous. it's almost as if i were
to wake up every morning and on
a111: Logged on 2015-08-05 13:38 mircea_popescu: one is USE. specifically - hanbot must be able
to put into work
the
theoretical advances b-a produces. and ima use her as a stand-in for "intelligent and willing
to work, but not able
to grow a beard".
mircea_popescu: we can study contained examples if you wish, but
the general principle is quite undisturbed.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem here is
that
there's no way
to reason in
the manner you expect
to reason. IF anything about
the wot process is opposable
to anyone involved ;
then
the wot process becomes by
that measure less useful. no change whatsoever appears in
the swamp it's made
to confront.
mircea_popescu: yes but at a cost. and in places you're
too used
to paying
that cost.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you keep
trying
to design-for-ai.
there's no need and no call for
that ; moreover no practical way
to ever do it. wot permitted me
to ascertain enough information
to eg behead
that adlai schmuck most recently.
there's no way "for you
to explain how i reasoned
to a machine", or even in general, and
that doesn't hurt or stop me. moreover if
there was such a way,
then he'd simply act differently next
time. and
ther
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they can be so
treated no matter what you do. any attemps you make
to "make it impossible" simply break your
tool.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what some luser must be
thinking
to join "dutch secret services". it's like joining
the new jersey
tv station. dude what.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 11:47
trinque: dutchies just wishing
they were invited
to
the NSA, GHQ, BND party
mircea_popescu: yes, swamps "can be filled", but i'm not ready
to shoot you all yet.
mircea_popescu: i understand
that you see it stationary and imagine it's glass. it's not glass. it moves in response
to your measures.
mircea_popescu: your "easier" is entirely illusory. every
time you
try
to use levers on a puddle of mud water, you get mud on face AND NAUGHT ELSE.
mircea_popescu: and you also don't "must have signed gossipd lines", either.
there was a mega discussion re
that also on gossipd
thread
mircea_popescu: anyway. not
that, nor
this, leads
to "you MUST have signed ratings"
mircea_popescu: this is
the more recent ;
there was one also illo
tempore but w/e.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 23:36 mircea_popescu: and for
this reason ratings can't have
to be signed -
they can never be opposed
to
the maker.
Framedragger: a
timestamped and signed wot (navigable via
time axis) may be one of
those few
technical
tools within wot management which may actually be helpful :)
Framedragger: (yes and for
that reason V is an insanely useful and (i'm coming
to realize) very important
tool.)
Framedragger: i'm sorry but
that's false equivalence. EC crypto is used in
timestamping service which is used for actual business
transactions. not as
trivial as dead passive animal under house
Framedragger: ...and so it is
that
tmsr uses elliptic curve crypto in its production :)
☟︎ trinque: but it has worked rather well
there