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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537207 << mircea_popescu when the girls bring you a cup of tea, how would you like to ALWAYS have to sniff first to make sure that it is tea and not liquishit or piss ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's idea - of wholly-uncoupled redundant logtrons - moar.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> tell you what, if we're ever shipwrecked on a deserted island with hillary, we'll fuck hillary. << think she coughs now? wait until she chokes on all that dick!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 13:41 mircea_popescu: half the shit you do with c is check whether something was initialized properly. HALF!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 13:35 mircea_popescu: it is prolly best practice to have all serious V projects include a "conventions" file where to list all this. "1. tabs not spaces, bitch!" etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at the moment musl is my stdlib.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-30 19:12 ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works
asciilifeform: and we had this entire test where my node ate a total dumpblock of mircea_popescu's
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: preparin' for it.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 12:59 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/#323 << do we even have an yumpblock, bro ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537008 << oh ferfuxxsake, has mircea_popescu been drinking today or wat ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it happens every year or so
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: that's a good point!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, trinque, et al:
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no disagreement there; just pointing out that sometimes small arrangement disagreements still prop up; say, different order of variable initialization (which otherwise bears no actual significance); etc. of course one *could* have a convention spec so precise taht it would include things like "if there is arbitrary order of initialization of $x then default to alphanumerical order".
shinohai: Nothing, mircea_popescu decided to light fire under shinohai 's ass with bickening article I suppose
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you mean in the sense of a logical "third"? i'm not sure. i guess i get it conceptually, re. conflicts; but on a more mundane practical level, conflicts happen because, say, two people implemented some particular thing a bit differently; or their feature touched upon code from another place which was also being worked at; whatever
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well... yeah, maybe :)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: there is an implied assumption here of a "large enough" codebase (deliberately vague quantifier here). why i'm using it for scriba: 'cause i like it; and the latter's not a great argument. *but* if you have a large enough project with multiple people working on it, then:
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: gotcha. will simply things. unnecessary complexity indeed
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just so you know, no need to manually alter urls yourself anymore. unless you have a fetish for that, of course!
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [00:39:18] <mircea_popescu> now ima have to police my urls o.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a tropar
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: бродяжничество
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu what ~IS~ that? syphilis ?
scriba: [5/5] [21:35:35] <mircea_popescu> (apparently a badly balanced something or the other by steve yegge - you know, the supposedly notable derp behind http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html and a whole load of java, ruby etc)
scriba: [4/5] [21:31:35] <mircea_popescu> in other random, anyone play a game called "wyvern" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 00:44 mircea_popescu: a government can never be solvent ; a government can never operate legally.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is referring to sat dish, the camel fucker's aol.
shinohai: Now how will we ever know if mircea_popescu fools around with tulpas
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 22:31 mircea_popescu: anyway, the original linked lisp verbiage was funny to me mostly because it's all written from the perspective of "object oriented is god". which was very much groupthink cca 2006.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 23:10 mircea_popescu: "So XEmacs has never been a particularly good tool for serious Emacs users because even though it's written in C, it crashes like a mature C++ application." mwahahaha
asciilifeform: alice_: mircea_popescu dedicated an entire article to you.
alice_: does mircea_popescu fool around with tulpas
alice_: so does mircea_popescu fool around with tulpas or
asciilifeform: kernel, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did i fall into a parallel universe some time recently where linus lifting the hurd userland never happened ?
shinohai: "i lost the passphrase for the gpg key i created yesterday and i can't decrypt the msg mircea_popescu sent me...is it ok if a create another key and register with this?"
trinque: mircea_popescu: yes, but will now change that.
mircea_popescu: !!key mircea_popescu
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Hoffa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoffa>; Hoffa (1992) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104427/>; Reel history | Hoffa : DeVito shouldn't have hassled the Hoff? | Film ...: <https://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/mar/11/jimmy-hoffa-jack-nicholson>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: largely by familiarity with the process. i personally grew up doing it. and this is 3rd example i run into publicly to date (others being mr mold and terry davis.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the massive stash in the git, of 'this program is written in 'vrelta', which is written in 'ukuku, resting in all its pride and glory' is not shannonized. i am satisfied that it is the multi-year product of genuine madness.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: imagine you're a millennial raised on an ipad and your attention span lasts maybe 1 page of a normal novel.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: skinned someone else's thing << Just cause facebook lined up a billion idiots. And WoW poached MTG pkayers for "Hearthstone", kinda just biomass going from time waster to time waster
asciilifeform: ftr, the ζ thing almost led me to wonder if 'alice' wasn't an educational experiment created by mircea_popescu .
hanbot: heh, seems mircea_popescu and diana_coman co-own the term "pluriously", as per google
hanbot: (from mircea_popescu's latest) "A: A tulpa can think independantly from its creator, can have different opinions, views, tastes, etc. from its creator, provide companionship, talk directly to anyone inside the same body (including its creator and other tulpas), control and manipulate the physical body like you, recall the memories that you have if you give them the permission and more, but basically a tulpa is a conscious mind like you and can do the
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/wPpuN << in other amerilulz
a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 16:31 mircea_popescu: lol! review the history. the bar in 2016 is "make a bot" ; the bar in 2014 was "get a gpg key".
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
scriba: [3/3] [15:22:14] <mircea_popescu> this is actually not bad.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [1/3] [15:21:52] <mircea_popescu> oh it recursed ?
scriba: [3/3] [15:22:14] <mircea_popescu> this is actually not bad.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [1/3] [15:21:52] <mircea_popescu> oh it recursed ?
phf: mircea_popescu: that's not the problem above though
phf: mircea_popescu: well, i want the arrows to still work, so i explicitly ignore his for quoting
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 13:30 Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:569/to:569#569 << interesting - but i agree with mircea_popescu here that it's not entirely relevant, as it's not meant in that sense. but, interesting
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: (fair enough, i understand your viewpoint here)
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/bqIzy << cached copy for mircea_popescu et al.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: absolutely. and at the same time you can understand why a bunch of people do not intend to hold any money with you ("these people have money?!" - mp laughs), because even if the "ban" is legit, it doesn't exactly inspire things.
asciilifeform: his position was, and afaik remains, ' mircea_popescu's misconfiguted btctron blew away 17+, he should pay ' etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is invited to write article where llvm is described eloquently ..
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:569/to:569#569 << interesting - but i agree with mircea_popescu here that it's not entirely relevant, as it's not meant in that sense. but, interesting ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my position came from a substantial stint of actual study and experiment with llvm.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't disagree with your characterization. but i don't think the "entirely and unmitigatedly wrong" is objectively / necessarily the case. mining konspiracy, i don't know, mircea. but at this point i'm too out of the loop for the "i" to be mean anything here.
asciilifeform: as i understand, he now disbelieves in all of mircea_popescu that he had not personally seen
asciilifeform: it was lulzy, kako promised 'proof that mircea_popescu is really nigerian' or similar
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. 'ideological' #b-a perma-resident.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 12:40 mircea_popescu: what ever happened to punkman anyway
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu alice_ log was solved with a spiritual, not a religious solution
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu and alice_ hasn't told us about cultivating multiple personalities yet !!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu wins that one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think this was sent to us as gift from ze godz per this morning's thread.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didntcha post a photo of an invertible toilet once?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nobody's claiming the dollars are ever well spent, or that fucking is done in some new way
trinque: mircea_popescu: somebody got out her crayons
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wiki.tulpa.info/Official/FAQ << a (supposed) reader mailed this in. parody? or...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well even with bots the patriarchy must be established
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would be a terrible application for it, for 'high assurance' you want the MINIMUM TRANSISTOR COUNT
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i must point out that there is NO application where 'time does not matter'. for instance,
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: There were no matching configuration variables.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is willing to live with 500nsec seeks ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 8Mbit == 1MB.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it can use sram. which is what i've been playing with for past year or so.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated scriba 1 << Framedragger 's bot
scriba: [4/5] [23:41:26] <mircea_popescu> yeah
Framedragger: mircea_popescu et al ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/advisories/ICSA-12-297-01 << ahahahahahahahaha ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these aren't 'corporate sites'
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/pl5j4/?raw=true << whole thing, largely for mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2016-09-02 18:41 mircea_popescu: because if we discover that say "thisfunction is used on 64 bits of input of which the first 44 are known" ; then we run the other 20, add the resulting nextprime etc add those into the 8ball and it's goodnight.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al ^
a111: Logged on 2016-03-12 13:10 mircea_popescu: this shit's becoming ever more arabic isn't it.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 16:37 mircea_popescu: anyway. let it be noted that gorgo is supposed to marry a GOOD man, not just any man. and the definition of goodness is at the very least shared by leonidas, if not outright sourced from him.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-06#1535099 << (probably on some superficial level) this reminded me of a film i recently watched at airport: "elena" (2011, zvyagintsev). it's a pretty good film (nothing extraordinary), i think, and i recommend it. i don't have a particular intuition but i suspect that elena's relationship to her husband may pique mircea_popescu's interest, and he'd have words about elena ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't grasp the need for a global 'humanity filter.' working wotronics implies that folks will assortively peer by degree of muppetry, and this imho suffices.
asciilifeform: incidentally, less time than it takes to tell man from muppet by playing go (how many folks even play above 1995 computer level ? does mircea_popescu ? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now there is a 'complicated' 'let's talk for five minutes'.