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asciilifeform: right, mircea_popescu even already commissioned 3, they are right here

asciilifeform: let's suppose for gedankenexperiment that i could borrow mircea_popescu's nazi submarine and ship'em in duty-free. that still leaves 12*1600 == 19200 heathenbuxxorz for basic vps ( rented, presumably , to heathens, who will somehow agree to part with coin? but this is separate thread..)

asciilifeform: now the cost of filling 12 rack slots with as much cpu horse as they can hold, (using asciilifeform's method, rather than mircea_popescu's, if not clear from context) would be such : 32 cores of opteron @ 3GHz, 256GB ram, 1TB durable ssd, comes to 1600 per 1U machine; no more than 4 machines can travel in a cargo carried by a 1300 two-way ticket

shinohai: morning mircea_popescu, mod6

shinohai: Apparently, half the uk gov websites too: https://twitter.com/Scott_Helme/status/962684239975272450

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:47 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way)

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:01 mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ?

BingoBoingo: It is why I am inclined for alf to solicit pete_dushenski or another more experienced manager as either a consultant or partner if he is interested in taking over.

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: .2 + (2 + 6/2) / 8.268 = 0.8047411707789065

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8270.0, vol: 14372.29401855 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8267.5, vol: 65591.17821759 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8275.9, vol: 10439.5034439 | Volume-weighted last average: 8268.86746123

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu is appears to be increasingly tired of propping up on his own.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: more generally : i do not perceive any sort of future for the republic without an isp.

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783157 << On this point, taking a lot more explicit direction... perhaps from an alf pete_dushenski partnership, where my role becomes more hired hand than self directed center of the brand. I mention pete_dushenski because of his lack of toxic US passport and apparent management experience. I have my doubts alf alone is sufficient to right this ship, but if pete_dushenki wants try saving the republic ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:48 mircea_popescu: i did try throughout, up to and including yesterday, to somehow compensate for the various issues, but eventually the time comes for the observation that the situation you created for yourself there is not actually tenable. spend your remaining cash on your plane ticket out, we're putting an end here to this well meaning but ultimately ineffectual effort.

trinque: pete_dushenski: all set, must've been tired eyeballs indeed.

trinque: pete_dushenski: lemme see here

phf: diana_coman: output from powerpc g4, openbsd, identical to what x86 machine produces http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nLkau/?raw=true

shinohai: pete_dushenski: At least goes to show smarter than the Harvard idjuts mining Doge that time.

BingoBoingo: That is the only long game I had been seeing which might justify continuing the adventure. Especially considering THIS is the local webhosting competition https://www.netuy.net/hosting.linux.uruguay.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlpvT_4qc2QIVkYKRCh0msAP1EAAYASAAEgKVU_D_BwE

a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 15:18 asciilifeform: iirc idea was , when originally proposed by mircea_popescu , for it to be +ev in ~year

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not opposed to taking alfdebt in favor of mircea_popescu debt minding that the mircea_popescu debt comes first unless alf makes other arrangements with mircea_popescu. And also that a substantial part of the +EV involves BingoBoingo does things alf will find very disgusting to a few boxes in order to sell shared hosting. Think of how alf directed venture with PCengines 8 to the 1U as opposed to VPS for small

asciilifeform: i'ma back tomorrow; still in the process of last iteration of 'do what mircea_popescu told'

asciilifeform: iirc idea was , when originally proposed by mircea_popescu , for it to be +ev in ~year ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might you consider selling ?

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Understood. The closest thing to rescuing the situation here is appearing to be take on substantially more debt from mircea_popescu while working with the local mud, and insufficient assurance the mud can be made baked into bricks. I am willing to take on the debt, but I am now grossly aware I was unprepared intellectually and otherwise. I also see no reason for mircea_popescu to bleed cash feeding Uruguayos when the

a111: Logged on 2018-02-09 23:08 pete_dushenski: lulzy trump anecdote of the day comes to us from his personal porn star stormy daniels : "She describes walking into his suite at the Beverly Hills Hotel, for instance. “You could see the television from the little dining room table and he was watching Shark Week,” she recalled. “And he was watching a special about the U.S.S. something and it sank and it was like the worst shark attack in history. He

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> eam of reports from there, and would have already been late in the 2nd week. << I came to realize the grave neglect in not doing this exercise upon arrival rather early in the day's exercise.

mircea_popescu: drivers/char/random.c is what needs changing. wipe the calls to "add_disk_randomness" and bullshit, replace with your fg feeder. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-09 20:16 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: fed fg to /dev/random then crossed my fingers and closed my eyes in hoping that gpg sourced entropy from there

lobbes: pete_dushenski: I dunno if your situation is the same with your old 2014 key. But if you have any subkeys be sure to check them too >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734399 ☝︎

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: fed fg to /dev/random then crossed my fingers and closed my eyes in hoping that gpg sourced entropy from there ☟︎

ben_vulpes: hey, pete_dushenski how didja plug the fg into the koch-rsa keygenerator?

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wasn't enough to actually lose out 2048 bits ; besides, he's using teh fg i expect ? is he ?

ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you don't want a 4096 bit key; i can't find the relevant logs at the moment but koch-rsa does bad shit when generating keys > 2048 bits

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ct16g3r186dm specifically. it's not simply "ddr 3". it's actually 1866, these things matter. << Lists updated headed out the door in a few minutes http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/bbisp-shopping-and-shops-list-for-exploring/

trinque: pete_dushenski: is your key at least not yet expired?

deedbot: E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD is already registered as pete_dushenski.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> leaving aside we don't even know what disks we're buying. eg, the rosewill chassis only usefully takes 3.5 inch ones. << 2.5 to 3.5 shims are on the list

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: c13

phf: ben_vulpes: it's a standard cargo service, separate from flight engagement

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Snatch (film) - Wikiquote: <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Snatch_(film)>; Snatch Script at IMSDb.: <http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Snatch.html>; Snatch | All The Tropes Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia: <http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Snatch>

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:56 phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where they rent $3000 apartments to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:13 ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather than "it is actually good"

BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6TNbp/?raw=true The whole email thread from this morning through their suggesting desktop power supplies to go with rackmount cases to my polite suggestion the numbers and timeline aren't acceptable. Fuck me, and fuck these monkeys with their SHHHH SHHH sounds. Fucking monkeys just have turned operation "Make BingoBoingo rich 2018" into a clusterfuck by entertaining the "Let's

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 01:18 mp_en_viaje: yeee. keep your cool, most common moment for things to be fucked up is upon first success.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> get the everloving fuck out of this planed, what the fuck is this. << It's seeming a lot like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779313 ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre their derpy tax for mounts ? << Before the 22% VAT no less

ben_vulpes: exactly the "get another car" thing mircea_popescu described

phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where they rent $3000 apartments to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 14:34 mp_en_viaje: so no, protected mode hasn;'t become because it offered. the pantsuit decided it must be, and therefore prevented the non-mongoloid child from offering.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: some time iirc in the second bush term, there was a seekoority-theatre props vendor that sold 'bomb sniffer' using live mice. operator never saw the mice; they shipped in sealed cartridges with fixed amt of food, water, red led turned on when it finally croaked and time for new cartridge. like xerox.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i gotta wonder if these folx know about those mouse cartridges

BingoBoingo: There at least is a number and a timeline to offer other vendors to beat. That is all I want to say about the quote for cases and power supplies before mircea_popescu reads it. The suspense today has probably aged me five years...

trinque gets why mircea_popescu didn't want me squeezing the particular limb I grabbed, but still

BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yfwCX/?raw=true

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way) ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 14:03 diana_coman: phf, can you help test keccak on big endian iron? see ^

asciilifeform: ( i would also like to fill up with disks the 2 boxes that were made for mircea_popescu . but it would work just as well to fill them up on BB end , if other people are sending disks, when mircea_popescu feels like filling them )

asciilifeform: but yes i'd like to make use of ben_vulpes's shipment services, if mircea_popescu allocates a berth

mircea_popescu: did you work out something with ben_vulpes re taking nsa boxes over to bb.

asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu wanted them dead last

mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: this is poor experimental design, ben_vulpes

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i don't suppose you kept the ufo^H^H^Hcrash dump

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes sure.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if yr hospitality extends to me i'd love to stop in

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so that later can point, 'here's the experiment'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: post to the trb ml, sort what it's for

asciilifeform: neato ben_vulpes

phf: ben_vulpes: aw sucks, i'll be in portlandia in early march, wanted to schedule a get together

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so you're thinking like early march ? are you stopping by here too ?

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: currently estimating 3-6u, nothing nutty

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not much more than 16u or so though, so it stays rackable.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 13:36 mircea_popescu: phf you've not said a word, how goes over there ?

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha, specifics not nailed down yet

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what's that all about, you also flying over or something ?

diana_coman: ben_vulpes, as many other things before, keccak turned out to be yet another sort of ...problem before it can be of any use

ben_vulpes: lordy boiling frustration in ch9, diana_coman

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i uncrated one on friday

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in vintage mircea_popescu , http://trilema.com/2013/the-color-of-gray << i had entirely forgotten that we had this in 2013.

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1945 Empire State Building B - 25 crash - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash>; B - 25 Crashes Into Empire State Building - HISTORY.com Audio: <http://www.history.com/speeches/b-25-crashes-into-empire-state-building>; 164 best 9- 11 / empire state building images on Pinterest ...: <https://www.pinterest.com/joyapplemam/9-11-empire-state-buil

hanbot: mircea_popescu jeeze, they don't even leave the carcass on someone's doorstep?

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "there is no way to" / "you can't even provide the bare bones necessary supplies for using your services" << Sent with the further reminder : "From our earliest conversations I was clear that housing customer provided hardware was the focus of my business. The quotes for new Supermicro servers have not interested them from a cost basis perspective, and now they are getting together a pile of hardware to

hanbot: mircea_popescu : no, that's it, the olive ridley. looky! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Olive_ridley_hatchling_in_Mexico_(8218893828).jpg

hanbot: mircea_popescu i dun think the guy in your pic is a leatherback; they have long vertical ridges on their shells, whereas tinyguy has the sorta hexagonal plates

asciilifeform: diana_coman: as a child i imagined that caterpillars grow linearly thicker, heavier, moar revolting, as you go towards equator, and there they would be python-sized

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any idea of which species of turtle it is ? what's it look like as adult ?

mircea_popescu: diana_coman they're tasty, sure, but believe it or not the little animal had a very distinct personality, in my hand.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, sort of inept dragon-look-a-like; I heard they are tasty though (bigger ones at least)

mircea_popescu: diana_coman ugly ?

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1 - (41/42)^88 = 0.8800385141489635

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (41/42)^88 * 88 = 10.556610754891212

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 13:35 mircea_popescu: ave1 yeah, ideally make them patches off the full genesis once that appears ; afaik hanbot is stuck waiting for phf's proper vdiff, which evidently is stuck waiting for the conjclusion of phf's republican-oriental adventure.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only in the challenge of sourcing the 2U sheetmetal/powersupplies locally, and the caveat that the CPU orderers gotta watch the SKU to get the right cooler.

BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski There is also the BBisp mini conference http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/04/the-first-bbisp-mini-conference-and-montevideo-tourism-guide/ if you are inclined to make a trip.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 00:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-07#1782404 << very much so ; is it off hanbot's (yet not really published ?) genesis or what ?

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i think i saw that lobbes was getting in on the action, any other to divide the pie between ?

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 16:08 BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski Have you been following the BBisp developments?

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 13:27 mircea_popescu: so, let me know if you're interested in buying some newegg/amazon/whatever for this, danielpbarron pete_dushenski whosoever else.