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a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 19:13 mircea_popescu: way it ought to work starts with finely dispersed listeners throughout the network, which i hesitate to place as a "every lord should have" type of obligation in 2017, but will eventually become
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-19#1615717 << i gotta wonder what the folx without 1+ working trb node, think they are doing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^ these include strictly those folx who built with versionstring knob. or rather, some quite arbitrary subset thereof (i.e. those not in a black hole atm)
asciilifeform: in other lulz, heathendom https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 sees 9 trb nodez.
mircea_popescu: this sounds shockingly dumb when stated, but then again in point of fact average usian has "many sources of information : reddit, wikipedia, six different fake news outlets + nature!"
asciilifeform: 'if they all had but one neck' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how does 'dispersed listener' differ from 'run many nodez, and they gotta have tx debugger' ?
mircea_popescu: because the blind can't rule, as it were.
mircea_popescu: way it ought to work starts with finely dispersed listeners throughout the network, which i hesitate to place as a "every lord should have" type of obligation in 2017, but will eventually become ☟︎
asciilifeform: way it oughta work is, say, 'findtx <tx>' and we get, e.g., '<tx> is nth in block B', or <tx> is in mempool', or '<tx> not seen', in all but the last case followed by hexdump
mircea_popescu: i am not against trb having a debugger
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack, ftr trb still does not have a tx debugger. when, e.g., mircea_popescu, asks me 'have you seen tx T', all i have is to grep the log barf
BingoBoingo: Sawing is fine good fun. Coping is the sort of task that lead to Doctor's adminishions to stop doing that and repetitive stress injury.
BingoBoingo: But tiny carpal tunnels!
asciilifeform: actually if i did it every day, would have titanic hands and 0 complaints
BingoBoingo: ^ When was the last time anyone coped with a coping saw?
mircea_popescu: hands CAN get tired you know
mircea_popescu: not a particularly bright idea - for one thing you may wish to prioritize txn
mircea_popescu: the idea though is that you'd want to pay the same per kb for a whole period.
asciilifeform: ftr i see nTransactionFee as an idiocy, and imho the thing ought to demand the fee amount as a second argument to sendtoaddress
asciilifeform: hanbot: settxfee ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0472 ) can be used to adjust a running node without restart
asciilifeform: well yes, i am eating the l0gz
mircea_popescu: you know she just poked me with the same thing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider publishing your tx debugger as a trb patch ? (the thing that lets mircea_popescu answer questions like 'where is ea58f22fe5bbb4f42edb8be90a37f98b57af12007f7620f7ab94111a06ff3ebb ?' )
mircea_popescu: i said that.
mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely sure, but afaik trb still imports original satoshi assumptive boneheadedness in that it will not consider tx updating its own wallet which it didn't issue itself.
hanbot: say, i've also got a paytxfee reset to zero (was set last run)...what's this, also doesn't update w/o rescan, or wants a setting every run?
mircea_popescu: the receiver should see it ; the sender has nfi what happened, rescan will fix. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think trb updates your wallet balance in this case. it updates it when it sends something, it doesn't rescan for doublespends.
hanbot: i mean the amt sent to non-trb wallet is still included in trb wallet.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can bcstats be moved to mimi or notrly ?
mircea_popescu: reported by the miner that included it, as best i can tell. ☟︎
hanbot: test tx via trb using sendtoaddress fails to send diddly squat, meanwhile @ blockchain.info: transaction rejected by our node. Reason:Script resulted in a non-true stack: []
trinque: that's done. anyone having trouble, let me know.
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot trinque
trinque: !!key trinque
mircea_popescu: this is shockingly common. girl's schoolmate went to posh art school, ran out of dough, moved into one of her sculptures.
mircea_popescu: better in the sense that better than hawker.
mats: mircea_popescu: yes, isn't nature one of the better 'open access' journals?
trinque: the rewrite of the bot is launching shortly
trinque: I'm going to aim the deeds service at #trilema-trinque for a few minutes to test.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller weed is a swamp thing not a desert thing. grows best in wash dc.
mircea_popescu: mats the newspaper version of everything will be braindamaged. ever read any "science" from nature etc ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sounds a lot like someone read trilema on the topic lel.
trinque: people grow weed everywhere there are buildings
thestringpuller: news to me
thestringpuller: people grow good weed on the east coast?
mats: you can afford rent for safe houses but can't be fucked to develop a connect in the northeast? and drive the stuff down like sane people?
mats: amateur hour, this, shipping bulk pot through fucking fedex
mats: this chick pays way too much for pot from cali she could be getting from maine, vermont, new hampshire, ...
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i must say. when I put 40 hours into the first thief over vacation, definitely repeated that phrase to myself a lot: "thinking man's doom" such an apt three word description for the game.
asciilifeform: 'The Green Angels, she tells me, are selling a fantasy of an attractive, well-educated, presentable young woman who wants to get you high—a slightly more risqué Avon lady. Not all of the Angels are working models, but they are all young and attractive. In eight years, they have never been busted by the cops. The explanation is simple: Good-looking girls don’t get searched.'
asciilifeform: in re earlier lulz, https://archive.is/xXiAF >> 'Today her total expenses average more than $300,000 a month for the product, plus around $30,000 for cabs, cell phones, rent for various safe houses, and other administrative costs. She makes a profit of $27,000 a week. “I like seeing a pile of cash in my living room,” she says.'
phf: but judging by the nature of damage, it's probably somewhere in the SHAPE extension
thestringpuller: have to wonder did asciilifeform play thief?
thestringpuller: !#s thinking man's doom
phf: i'm not sure, but i remember you have to put a handful of magic incantations to live fix clx on genera to make it connect to crapple's x11 ☟︎
asciilifeform laboured under the possibly naive impression that x11 was 'in stone' for eons
asciilifeform: phf: interesting -- what, gotta wonder, did crapple mutilate, to result in this
phf: unrelatedly, someone ported franz's clim2 to ccl, but instead of using ffi to motif backend, they used an original generas clx backend, that is still there. the result is ugly, broken on mac's x11, but works, and potentially could be improved and optimized by interested parties. http://glyf.org/screenshots/clim2-clx.png
jhvh1: thestringpuller: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: !~later tell danielpbarron done
mircea_popescu: fortunately cunts of all subcultures work. the rest...
mircea_popescu: i wasn't proposing that as a substitute lol.
mircea_popescu: land of the fucking gypsies what more can be said.
phf: you can walk in, ask for a theme, and you're going to be presented with a range of crude looking trinkets, the kind that you would see as costume jewelry in the "little princess" corner of the store
phf: based on what it is. if it's supposed to cary a stone of some sort, 18, then goes up
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BE32AE9463A4BD3735F0D5965C7D7DEBDDA8ECCB6AAC0916D8B7F9EA09D2B284 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1778...7833 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.55.42.194 (ssh-rsa key from 80.55.42.194 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (qq194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BE32AE9463A4BD3735F0D5965C7D7DEBDDA8ECCB6AAC0916D8B7F9EA09D2B284 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1709...4493 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.55.42.194 (ssh-rsa key from 80.55.42.194 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (qq194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL)
asciilifeform: phf: the wedding trinkets -- are of pure gold?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they;re thinking.
phf: every bank has a "gold loan" department, presumably to pawn the wedding jewelry on the as needed basis. you see this dynamic as you step of the airplane. the idea that currency ban hits anyone but the poorest of the poor is ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: phf yeah. gold was already "A problem" in the soviet meaning of the term in india. with this idiocy, they're making it a fully gold standard place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure usd currently fills the 'gold mircea_popescu dubloon' niche there, just as in other orclands
phf: that's basically what they do her re strike gold rounds. according to a gold seller for an average indian wedding he sells roughly 2kg worth of jewelry. he says that different sellers will have slightly different numbers (based on how prestigious they are), but he's sort of in the middle of normal distribution
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0D9639BF7C77C0C1C6C8DC97BF567111B98430E83DF511DD1A4693F6586D9A66 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1695...3139 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.131.59.189 (ssh-rsa key from 88.131.59.189 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0D9639BF7C77C0C1C6C8DC97BF567111B98430E83DF511DD1A4693F6586D9A66 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1661...9029 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.131.59.189 (ssh-rsa key from 88.131.59.189 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SE)
mircea_popescu: Kingdom of India, rape all the bureaucrat 16yo daughters. sounds like a party.
mircea_popescu: if i lived in india i'd strike gold rounds, with my face on one side and my crown on the other. and if the "indian our democracy" doesn't like it, they can eat hot ieds.
mircea_popescu: it's funny though, the "advanced" "our" democracy superstate slowly decides that it doesn't WANT to do all the fundamental things it parasitized, such as cash supply.
asciilifeform: also bbc today: 'Viewpoint: Let's smash crime by scrapping big banknotes. The man who came up with "demonetisation" on whether India did it right.'
phf: i need to move a handful of things into storage, throw out the bulk and handover my apartment back to landlord. mostly i don't want to lose my books, but i'm going to split them between a handful of trusted locations
mircea_popescu: justified ; their musical instruments weren't up to code. people are irresponsible, you could start a fire using the wrong kind of trumpet. and fire is dangerous, whole fucking party could die because of it.
mircea_popescu: phf why are you even getting back to dc in the first place ?
asciilifeform: phf: every time you find one of these, i think 'holy shit, it was alive until now?!'
phf: of course, the sum of all moves is insubstantial, but the totality is going to produce the gnupg effect. 5000 renames for 5 meaningful changes, meanwhile yet another project to add to naggum emacs archive
mircea_popescu does the jewish armshake.
asciilifeform: and we had meat. more than modern usa..
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 16:12 mircea_popescu: (the source was 80s dispute wrt to general public's apparent bottomless appetite for purchasing luxury goods -- in eastern communism this includes meat, washing machines, electricity, etc -- for which they won't even have the fucking decency to pay in hard currency, but aim to use the worthless reminbo internal scrip)
mircea_popescu: "what moves faster than clouds ?" "nothing really" "how come clouds haven't taken over the world ?" "but in their way... they have."
mircea_popescu: nah, it's mostly because they're so unsubstantial.
phf: i don't have a smart comment, "exasperation" is the correct term in this case. i'm looking in awe at the turnaround time though, some kind of "modernization" fast track right there
phf: meanwhile in the alternative, Zardoz future of computing http://68.media.tumblr.com/56069cfb482020c2a964a581385d99d2/tumblr_olj5dqSF5u1uu4f9zo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: more or less a "there's no fucking end to the amount of chinese crap these idiots would """buy""" if they had credit cards. and no, there isn't.
mircea_popescu: (the source was 80s dispute wrt to general public's apparent bottomless appetite for purchasing luxury goods -- in eastern communism this includes meat, washing machines, electricity, etc -- for which they won't even have the fucking decency to pay in hard currency, but aim to use the worthless reminbo internal scrip) ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: related to the discussion of how "bitcoin corrupts".
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/68D7DA6C32B215EB8DE1DCC614A7650E8983D892EF2A36B75C31B75EBCDF80FA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1559...6377 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '72.165.88.4 (ssh-rsa key from 72.165.88.4 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (azlink.monrovia.com. US)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/68D7DA6C32B215EB8DE1DCC614A7650E8983D892EF2A36B75C31B75EBCDF80FA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1472...7739 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '72.165.88.4 (ssh-rsa key from 72.165.88.4 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (azlink.monrovia.com. US)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/ADA84AFFAA8CC77417EF485B4306614CDDCA484ECBFF3F0666C6B54CEC530F14 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1504...6199 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '202.80.113.52 (ssh-rsa key from 202.80.113.52 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ip52.113.ez.net.id. ID JK)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/ADA84AFFAA8CC77417EF485B4306614CDDCA484ECBFF3F0666C6B54CEC530F14 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1464...2629 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '202.80.113.52 (ssh-rsa key from 202.80.113.52 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ip52.113.ez.net.id. ID JK)