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asciilifeform: what, i am suspecting, i oughta have done, is to banhammer strictly those nodes who ~pong back~
asciilifeform: quite possibly this experiment was misguided
asciilifeform: (or rather, no longer emits pings. trb nodes emitting pings -- still banhammered)
asciilifeform: this one, lel, no longer bans trb nodes...
asciilifeform: mod6: pretty sure this is it
mod6: asciilifeform: sig verifies. ima build this one, unless you want me to hold off still.
mod6: many thanks, Mr. Vulpes.
ben_vulpes: anyways, asciilifeform my queue is rather deep, working with mod6 on a thing
mircea_popescu: i'm sure about half the locker rooms in all highschools in history contained picture of most accomplished slut/jock in the class with words scribbled on it.
mircea_popescu can't summon teh interest.
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about that funky github repo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people have a little longer pipelines than THREE HOURS you.
trinque: in point of fact, I did bother to grep for ping.
asciilifeform: i can't fucking believe that nobody caught this.
mod6: ok, fair enough, just gonna keep an eye on it a bit longer then?
mod6: im gonna build in your patch and deploy. see how it goes, thank you for your submission to the ML.
asciilifeform: mod6: dulap (with the new snip) is actually beating zoolag
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000248.html << ok, thx!
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 104.199.165.17 << google spider . now attempts to connect to trb nodez.
asciilifeform: and then went on to 'it will take two weeks'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/qtwGu seems to claim that ru let city of new york autopsy churkin !
ben_vulpes: earlier i saw 3 lines from trinque hit all at once.
asciilifeform: ^ if you see yourself on this list , know !
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 8 seconds
mircea_popescu: not the tibetansd.
mircea_popescu: there's not going to be any stream in turkey.
asciilifeform: and than having to deal with potentially endless stream of incoming idiots
mircea_popescu: you think ?
asciilifeform: if nothing else, public execution is cheaper than guarding and feeding schmuck for years
mircea_popescu: if you simply aim to win, there's no marked benefit.
mircea_popescu: the impale thing happens when you aim to educate, which is what the display of violence without possibility of recourse is all about.
mircea_popescu: because the education of imbeciles is not on my budget.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in, e.g., erdogan's place, if you 'had won, and Still In Power, and They Will Never Leave Jail', would you secretly stow the defeated in some jail ? or impale on public square, where everyone can see'em ? why not the latter ?
mircea_popescu: the only item in power in the us today is trump. this should be abundantly clear, as a minimal qualifying bar for "op is not batshit insane". on the level of perceiving the sunset.
mircea_popescu: mno. by the time you have to resort to "in my village it rains apples, SO THERE!" you can "win", but it'll be all by yourself.
mircea_popescu: lol. well, by now your position has degraded enough so ima call this good.
mircea_popescu: none of your business in which jail are they. suffice it to be said that they aren't ever coming out. and whoever feels uppity in usg "deep state" is very much next.
asciilifeform: hey even mr.t over here is theoretically still-in-power.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-15 20:05 mircea_popescu: check it out, they even call it us kleptocracy department! apt.
mircea_popescu: you're aware erdogan is still in power, and the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-15#1614142 "victims" are literally lost. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in which jail are they
mircea_popescu: most of those schmucks are never going to see the outside of a jail cell.
asciilifeform: colour me thick, how did it fail ?
mircea_popescu: failed to work. spectacularly.
mircea_popescu: no, don't slide. you were discussing "the 'counter to ru jet' is called '~100% of ru brass own walmart stock and have children at harvacambridgetonyale'".
asciilifeform: worked great in turkey, they nailed another beloved-ambassador-d00d with 0 push back
mircea_popescu: which is why there's no glory in it, and why the more civilised ancients refrained.
mircea_popescu: this is a permanence of politics. the FUCKING POINT of an ambassador is that the barbarians can kill him.
mircea_popescu: would fail in russia too.
asciilifeform: to the point where usg can poison beloved ambassador d00d and 0 risk
mircea_popescu: failed spectacularly in turkey.
asciilifeform: and afaik it continues to work
asciilifeform: the 'counter to ru jet' is called '~100% of ru brass own walmart stock and have children at harvacambridgetonyale'
mircea_popescu: as far as these assemblages go, there isn't a substantial difference between the black pimp's hussle&flow and the white cuckold's hussle&flow. neither of them can act substantially and deliberately. gotta pick one.
mircea_popescu: much like locusts eventually get too many and swarm, man got too abundant and is now making shambling horrors out of himself.
mircea_popescu: whether it'll be enough or not, for what it aims to do or for something else, is an entirely different discussion. but the important point is that man has raeched that sad level of overpopulation where it assembles into meta-creatures.
asciilifeform: only in the cow-is-methane-vendor sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for this discussion, every inner city black thug who sits down to start his own brothel is (like, say, http://trilema.com/2016/hustle-flow/ ) is laying down a new cognitive capacity farm.
mircea_popescu: on the balance of an endless field of failures with one (relatively minor) bright spot, the theory that "the face thing is also a step to http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752" is a little less supported than the theory that " monkey throwing shit against a wall"
mircea_popescu: and the list could go on.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:20 mircea_popescu: but not just llvm - the whole world exists, and it produces things such as "'Static linking of user binaries is not supported on Mac OS X. Tying user binaries to the internal implementation of Mac OS X libraries and interfaces would limit our ability to update and enhance Mac OS X. Instead, dynamic linking is supported (linking against crt1.o automatically instead of looking for crt0.o, for example). We strongly recommend tha
mircea_popescu: so -- yes, "someone" had the cognitive capability to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594887 ; but that same someone failed to produce a workable counterpart to the russian jet ; or any kind of response to the chinese missilization ; or any sort of coherent narrative for the middle east ; or even anything past "never happened - if it happened it doesn't matter - if it matters we did it anyway" re russkis turning off the ele ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dunno that anyone has made 'new cognitive capability' since engelbart.
mircea_popescu: we were talking about cognitive capability ; not about "the dutch invented the tulip tradegood and everyone was stuck being immitator -- for a while anyway"
asciilifeform: very easy to say for d00d who uses 0 of these and can't even picture why anyone would.
mircea_popescu: are you talking about llvm or about the imaginary market for "Tablets" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well noshit, they did it once, how many times does what other company create product category from thin air, in which literally every other vendor remains trabant imitator
veen: > our scientism has shown these facts to be self-evident! such reasoning is sufficient to affect trajectory of body politic and clown car alike
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 23:55 asciilifeform: but meanwhile in the monkey cages, https://archive.is/iUfOp >> '“Climate change is not a controversy,” read one sign at yesterday’s “Rally to Stand Up for Science,” which drew hundreds to the historic downtown plaza. ... "We're really trying to send a message today to Mr. Trump that America runs on science, science is the backbone of our prosperity and progress," said Geoffrey Supran, a postdoctoral fellow at Harvard Univer
veen: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616522 << some display of tone-deaf impotence, that ☝︎
mircea_popescu: back at reality once, they managed it ONCE. they can't do it at-will ; they can't even do it again. it's rather a crapshot than a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, but this is not unlike saying cow can fly because gut produces methane.
mircea_popescu: the ~only thing that is even vaguely similar to that is the sort of deep-in-the-bowels systems engineering as to my mind best exemplified by the llvm thing and ~nothing else.
asciilifeform: wwwtronic idiocies mostly live in the former camp
asciilifeform: quite disjoint sets, for the most part.
asciilifeform: in my observations there are roughly 2 factions of technocrapolade -- 'microshit': crashes, 'meat-like' malfunctions, shit soup of 'why does this exist', shithubs full of gender-fix-commits, etc; and 'crapple' -- ipnoje that worx 100% of the time you push the button, while slowly recording; amazon's widgets; google's spamless mail; and similarly appealing, sweet and carcinogenic nintendos
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru!
mircea_popescu: but ars vita, longa brevis or how that went. very little space for actual agency in the wailing crowd.
mircea_popescu: i'm on the record not conflating them, take the recent c/llvm discussion.
mircea_popescu: same thing that the gyneceum always produces, and i don't give a shit you call it "human resources" or "engineers" or "the stupid bitches in ditch A"
asciilifeform: a work of evil, but works, to spec.
asciilifeform: it was designed, and works. to spec.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is method. random js crapolade on some indian www may be monkey throwing shit against a wall. an item like 'amazon alexa' is not.
mircea_popescu: same thing that produced the above microsoft networking paradigm.
mircea_popescu: the face thing is a step in the direction of argentina : it doesn't work, nobody knows how to fix it and it's not anybody;s fault anyway so let's adapt.
mircea_popescu: you keep seeing method to the madness. there's no method.
asciilifeform: '- Where have you been, Dad? You can wait forever. You have to read the text through the polarizer glasses. Without them, all you’ll see is the ads! - What’s that for? - What do you mean, what’s that for? So nobody who hasn’t paid can read the book! Think, I buy a book, and someone who didn’t buy anything could read it over my shoulder…'
asciilifeform: the face thing is also a step to http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752
ben_vulpes: even having the lock on is pretty uncommon, people go to lengths to turn it off
ben_vulpes: or the ability to hand phone to friends and unlock it
ben_vulpes: foregoing oblique unlock is going to be hard to jam down the kids throat
mircea_popescu: that part is certainly coming. dreamers moving towards their vats as foretold.
asciilifeform: this is part of a slow, planned anal dilation of the luserbase.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: point is not that it will work as printed on the box. but that the machine won't log you in unless it sees a passable room with passable face-like object in it.
mircea_popescu: iirc a bunch of people made sport of that
ben_vulpes: heh veen and i broke apple's facial recognition on the first day it shipped. filed report, crickets.
asciilifeform: when you read 'fellow at X and at the Y' it means ye olde patronage system, a la tammany hall, d00d collects 2,3,4,5 salaries, while doing ~0
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well america totally is built on that, no argument there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all the d00d sees, or even wants to see, is the wagonload of cv padding, and the payola stretching bank acct to new decimal places every month
mircea_popescu: if it were actual science, the honest to god sort, kvant-science, "you're not smart enough to ride" science, yes it would be at the basis of a country (would it call itself "america" ? why not ?), but it wouldn't be possible for him to pretend what he's pretending.