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mircea_popescu: esp if you get it a little more detailed. per tx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next patch is a blockverify timer.
asciilifeform: btw do the prb folk have parallelized block verify yet? or do they simply eat whatever garbage.
mircea_popescu: but that 3-8 minutes CAN be half an hour.
mircea_popescu: if only. the pile of gnarl is unfuckingtraceable.
mircea_popescu: yeah. just, back on the 21st the problem happened ot be a pile of contrived blocks s'all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: block verification is ~an~ issue, world stops for 3-8 minutes when block candidate is being eaten. but is demonstrably not the cause of multi-hour blackhole.
asciilifeform: PeterL: so far i've found ~0 net effect. (earlier today thought that it was a net loss, but dulap caught up and stayed caught up.)
mircea_popescu: there is some value in node discovery, but there's a major problem with the socket starvation.
PeterL: seems like a ping, pong is not a big change, but I guess I see your point. Is there any benefit to it, or is it strictly noise?
asciilifeform: to what else would you have trb 'respond as they expect', PeterL ? bloom filter? segshitness?
asciilifeform: PeterL: what part of 'prb does not own bitcoin protocol' is hard to grasp?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 17:43 asciilifeform: could simply add anybody who emits a 'ping' to banlist.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616189 << Why not just respond with "pong" like they expect? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: the vassals for whom this grates, straight to gpg.
ben_vulpes: there are republicans of various standing, their vassals, and everyone else.
asciilifeform: given that contract is a thing only to the people in it -- sure.
asciilifeform: ah in that sense
ben_vulpes: there is no bar to presentation of previously signed documents at a later point.
ben_vulpes: would be interesting to see gpg wedding contracts
asciilifeform: quite implicit, the marriage was certainly not executed here.
ben_vulpes: in absence of counterclaim, is davout's wife then
asciilifeform: smoked the smallest cigs i ever saw
ben_vulpes: suppose that woulda been done for her.
ben_vulpes: migrated to #t wot?
ben_vulpes: note how veen went from "my business partner" to "veen", but "my wife" is still -- mine
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616348 << do "marriage" and "divorce" even have much of a place in the republic? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes was prior to tillerson being confirmed.
ben_vulpes: i shall read, think -- later.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what means "state to petraeus" then?
mod6: asciilifeform: thanks for submitting.
asciilifeform: ( someone is certain to ask 'why' )
asciilifeform: i am deliberately leaving this to you lot
asciilifeform: the one case i have not yet tested is the ~bidirectional~ wire.
shinohai: Lots of irons in fires atm, but exciting development asciilifeform .... I will test in < 24 hrs
asciilifeform: classical trb did not have a nondisconnectable marker for peers; would not connect to localhost; and deprioritized non-8333 ports to dead-last order. 'wires' fixes this.
mircea_popescu: ah that';s nice.
asciilifeform: it can also be used with traditional ssh tunnels; or even as-is, which will result in same situation as presently seen with 'addnode' -- but no more disconnects!
shinohai likes to minagine this `wires` patch as G for trb
a111: Logged on 2017-02-22 04:55 mircea_popescu: btw, trump actually gave state to petraeus, at least on the declarative front.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 02:05 asciilifeform: presently trb does not have this sane behaviour
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: so what's going to happen with tillerson?
ben_vulpes: too many 'tits at dinner', i guess, they all run together
shinohai: I wish my peeps had been incredible enough not to fuck up that Eulora click earlier this week.
shinohai: (right areola is slightly misshapen but who am I to judge
shinohai: I'd remember those tits ....
asciilifeform: hot, then, fusion, for this example. but sure.
asciilifeform: for the sake of properly massaging subj -- why not gas phase ?
mircea_popescu: but in any case the pressurizing of a gas won't yield significant caloric capacity to matter in this discussion.
mircea_popescu: considering you're about 50kgs of water and 50grams of sweat, i hardly see the difference.
mircea_popescu: yes, so there's a latent phasechange heat of what, 17k or so, roughly 4 degree's worth.
shinohai: Now that is non-Newtonian fluid I can get behind.
mircea_popescu: "pour ammonia on it" won't work nearly as well when your alt-lifeforms manage to start a kitchen fire out of icecubes and alt-wood shavings.
ben_vulpes: aka heat required to raise a gram of the material 1c
mircea_popescu: veen if you bother to do the math you'll see there's actually pretty good reason to suspect life ~= water within three or so sigmas.
veen: hypothetically ammonia and various hydrocarbons could do the trick
mircea_popescu: iirc it was 146 to water's 4k
mircea_popescu: your planet will either need large oceans of something else (what ? water ? then water-life will take over) or else will experience large temperature swings
veen: i'm no expert in the field of biochemistry, but i'm aware models have been proposed
mircea_popescu: this makes it a major schelling point for lifebuilding. do you know of an alternative material or combination that could serve ?
mircea_popescu: understand that water is important because it does (at least) two pumps simultaneously. firstly the heat pump, secondly the synthesis pump. it is : a) an oxide (this means it doesn't burn -- not just "not in oxygen" but not in general, few elements are more reacrtive to substitute) which b) has an immense caloric capacity and also c) is a very powerful universal solvent.
mircea_popescu: even entertaining the zoological angle. what alternative pump do you envisage ?
veen: rule out metabolic pathways that spontaneously arose in oceans of methane and the search is ~guaranteed to come up dry
veen: i perceive the interest to be more zoological
ben_vulpes: the search for life that's more or less pretty much just like us, so far away as to provide a nice escape out of having to do anything other than write grants
mircea_popescu: well it's kind-of the interest no ? "can trump build hotel resort"
veen: as long as you define life to mean life like we have on earth
veen: https://archive.is/x57D1 << "NASA…has discovered a new solar system [with] three [planets] that sit squarely in the so-called ‘habitable zone,’ meaning that there is the potential for liquid water: the key for life on another planet."
mircea_popescu: and in today's dose of monster wtf : "<DicePower> So like, the 0.1.2b .tar.gz contains multiple files with the same name but of different case, i.e., EuloraV0.1.2\art\Graveyard~ and EuloraV0.1.2\art\GRAVEYARD~ which Windows wants to fix by overwriting one when the .tar is unzipped. What is the proper course of action to avoid later linking errors, etc.?"
mircea_popescu: and some weird behaviours in the mempool.
mircea_popescu: 4 blocks in the past EIGHTY MINUTES.
asciilifeform: the ping thing did some ill, and an unknown, possibly null, amount of good.
trinque: logic being, I guess, if I can't smell the fart AT LEAST I CAN SEE IT
mircea_popescu: "what's the ultimate in orgasms ?" "to come powder. out your ass."
mircea_popescu: that's the source of humour : that he's a walking stereotype and apparently unaware.
mircea_popescu: a man with a functionally inadequate reproductive organ has adorned his squalid abode with what purports to be cocaine.
asciilifeform: colour me thick -- what is happening in this photo ..?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes the alert messages said 'URGENT: Alert key compromised, upgrade required.' iirc this was part of prb's scheduled retirement of the alert crapola.
asciilifeform: either peculiarly broken clients have proliferated, or somebody's flipping bits on the wire...
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/jJ7iS/?raw=true << on a traditional (zoolag) trb node. i never once saw these in past log readings, and now they are quite common.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2015/youve-made-the-bed-enjoy-dying-in-it << thread was memorialized, apparently, on mircea_popescu's www
a111: Logged on 2015-02-16 06:17 asciilifeform: so the 'google finds unique strings' thing, sure - can we conclude that i'm the only one alive trying to build 'gnat' on 'gentoo' ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-16#1020624 << see also thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: there is a dark heathen world of proprietary ada compilers, mostly for winblowz, but they are so rare, you will find them on no warez, anywhere.
asciilifeform: (same problem as gcc, but difference is, gcc will -- theoretically -- build on certain other compilers, though i have nfi when anyone last attempted this. but there are not and never were any open alternatives to gnat.)
asciilifeform: for completeness i will also point out that adacore's tarball will, with some handholding, build.
asciilifeform: jurov: i blew ~month on this horror.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'IN THE PURSUIT OF UNTHINK In order to let our collective curiosities be the ultimate guide in our journey to pursue the meaningful opportunities of tomorrow, we are always looking to assemble a talent pool, that is not just content with thinking differently, but thinks a whole lot differently. We like to call this phenomenon 'unthink' and Gaditek is 'where unthink is'.' ( http://www.gaditek.com -- runs a prb node. )
asciilifeform: https://www.nessus.at << lel, not the famous nessus.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C30AA4DAEC55910C94B5E32B7B847E3D84DA19A0160ACB16424A6913156B5CD4 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1552...8749 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.244.251.98 (ssh-rsa key from 77.244.251.98 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ip077244251098.rev.nessus.at. AT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C30AA4DAEC55910C94B5E32B7B847E3D84DA19A0160ACB16424A6913156B5CD4 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1398...1177 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.244.251.98 (ssh-rsa key from 77.244.251.98 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ip077244251098.rev.nessus.at. AT)
asciilifeform: 'The oldest version that was checked is 2.6.18 (Sep 2006), which is vulnerable. However, the bug was introduced before that, probably in the first release with DCCP support (2.6.14, Oct 2005). The kernel needs to be built with CONFIG_IP_DCCP for the vulnerability to be present. A lot of modern distributions enable this option by default.'
asciilifeform: but meanwhile, in comedic theatre, https://archive.is/NvRz0 >> 'This is an announcement about CVE-2017-6074 [1] which is a double-free vulnerability I found in the Linux kernel. It can be exploited to gain kernel code execution from an unprivileged processes.'
asciilifeform: i'ma give it another day and then roll back.
asciilifeform: considering that it cuts off stock trb -- it is surprising that it was at any point caught up.
asciilifeform: in other noose, the goodbye_pingers experiment is not a mega-success, dulap is 30+ blox behind
ben_vulpes: mhm "even google ai is better at driving than most people"
ben_vulpes: yeah, meatsacks shouldn't operate their own road ice.
mircea_popescu: see the pattern ?