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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they'd have to backpedal on 50 yrs. of forced treaties with most of the planet
asciilifeform: '2015-03-10 20:02:29One or More Panels Have Entered Into a Pick And Place Machine'
asciilifeform: we still need a goxoinbase ehem.
asciilifeform: 'parallel world where none of it happened' (tm)
asciilifeform: they're still alive, well-fed, and polluting the sky
asciilifeform: point isn't that gavin&co are 'winning', but that the absence of said winning is not driven home to them
asciilifeform: but they did replace it (with the headers-only crap) and even a buncha morons are running the thing
asciilifeform: usg assets don't surrender, they keep doing their thing until the stool is kicked and the rope goes taught. or how did it go.
asciilifeform: whole world copied.
asciilifeform: i suppose it is 'good' in the sense in which the products of herr goebbels were.
asciilifeform: see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=2#comment-3383 .
asciilifeform: fucker knows what he's doing. not ignorant.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i still fucking hate that piece. the sheer mendacity of rich hickey in saying 'simplicity matters' while crapping all over lisp concept ☟︎
asciilifeform: кукареку
asciilifeform: ^ worth reading mainly for the slipping car anecdote
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/chaos-practice-and-applications.html << mega-l0l
asciilifeform: obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2015#998178 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2015#998185 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: 'If however, anyone feels personally abused, threatened, or otherwise uncomfortable due to this process, that is not acceptable. If so, please contact the Linux Foundation's Technical Advisory Board at...' << linus begins to totter ?!!?
asciilifeform: (think about micrometeorites, etc. and occasionally there is a cosmic ray travelling with the energy of a well-thrown baseball.)
asciilifeform: -if- it could be made to travel fast enough.
asciilifeform: one could literally pierce a tank with a compressed turd
asciilifeform: it is interesting to remember that, at a certain velocity, it no longer really matters what a bullet is made of
asciilifeform: but again this is an ancient idea, not mine.
asciilifeform: need to have some notion of stoichiometry and strength of materials to avoid creating self-grenade instead of musket
asciilifeform: jurov: that's the basic idea, yes
asciilifeform: the gas is the piston
asciilifeform: (explosion-forming of vaguely correct quantity of $material)
asciilifeform: potentially bullet itself could even be molded during the process of firing
asciilifeform: and with correctly-shaped projectile, smooth barrel would suffice
asciilifeform: fundamentally less precision metalwork needed here
asciilifeform: why?
asciilifeform: but there is no particular reason why the principle cannot be applied to a man-portable small arm
asciilifeform: at any rate this is a golden toilet
asciilifeform: hmm seems like linked item does use for propellant as well..
asciilifeform: typically used in experimental physics, rather than war, because it is rather fussy
asciilifeform: 'light gas gun' is its own animal, where a gas where speed of sound is faster than in air is used as a 'piston'
asciilifeform: not quite
asciilifeform: (and ignited, of course, via electrical spark)
asciilifeform: where the propellant is H and O produced via electrolysis for each shot
asciilifeform: incidentally, to continue an earlier thread with mircea_popescu et al re: 'jungle bullet' - has anyone ever attempted to militarize the old familiar 'hydrogen cannon' ?
asciilifeform: aha lol
asciilifeform: ?
asciilifeform: eventually a 'multicopter' (perhaps usg provocateur-piloted) will be used in some loud, public vandalism (graffiti of $landmark or wtf) and it'll be 'reichstag fire'
asciilifeform: what will almost certainly be usg-banned quite soon - and banned the way chemistry as a class was, rather than as specific types of small arm were - is flying machines
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: good physical reasons why you would not want to be standing even behind such a thing, much less holding it, when fired
asciilifeform: usg could and did put down rebellion even in the era when arbitrary hardware was permitted to whoever could afford it
asciilifeform: trinque: it isn't like one could cut through a phalanx of usg stormtroopers and stay legally in the clear simply because the machine is not banned per se
asciilifeform: loaded like cannon
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg-sponsored ($maxint) laser shenanigans traditionally involve chemical (that is, single-shot) machines
asciilifeform: trinque: if it were 10,000 times larger, would still be 'class 4'.
asciilifeform: trinque: i have a 'class 4' laser right in this room
asciilifeform: too 'humane' ?
asciilifeform: but still entertaining, this omission.
asciilifeform: not that appropriate text couldn't be crapped into the penal code overnight if lizardhitler wished it, mind you
asciilifeform: there are prohibitions on nukes (lol), poisons, and biowar - but that's, iirc, it.
asciilifeform: e.g., arbalest, laser, electron beam weapon, etc.
asciilifeform: my understanding is that in usa, war machines that do not use pyrotechnic effects are not considered 'arms' and are not regulated at the national level ☟︎
asciilifeform: ianal, but phun phact (tm):
asciilifeform: (in usa - anything that has only one hilt it being roughly 90 degree to the barrel, iirc, is legally 'pistol')
asciilifeform: still not sure how anything the size of a 1990s laptop can be called a 'pistol' with a straight face
asciilifeform: the one that makes it mandatory if ever becomes available on the market ?
asciilifeform: and this apparently is a great irritant to many marksmanship types who would much like electrical striker for a few percent decrease in mechanical jitter
asciilifeform: on account of being a software patch away from full auto
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc 'smart' in the sense of electrical detonation is explicitly forbidden
asciilifeform: only retracted when found a new use for the armed thugs
asciilifeform: that'd be like a lion un-eating a gazelle
asciilifeform: when has usg legalized anything formerly forbidden ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ratchet still cranks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reprieve << ahaha lol no. it's the usual 'we'll slip it up your arse later when brouhaha is over and nobody's paying attention' usg business.
asciilifeform: incidentally, my explanation at 14:39:46 is a bit broken but i'll leave it as exercise for the reader.
asciilifeform: not sure what the word for it is
asciilifeform: and there's something palpably poisonous about that page
asciilifeform wrote a flame many years ago and the 'butthurt' over it never seems to abate
asciilifeform: '...we should start with cleaner hardware, then write a cleaner replacement for the JVM (same cross-platform capabilities!?, same performance optimisations!?), as well as all its libraries... we'd be busy at least for another decade and required backing from several large companies.'
asciilifeform: http://www.railslove.com/stories/my-way-into-clojure-building-a-card-game-with-om-part-1#Other_Misgivings << mega-l0l (from server logs) ☟︎
asciilifeform: !up stoya
asciilifeform: or hmm, maybe that wasn't it
asciilifeform: !s achronix
asciilifeform: (that, afaik, is the limit of what anyone with actual funding has dared)
asciilifeform: somebody even sells a clockless 'arm'.
asciilifeform: but one can put together a few mil. of these, without any apparent daemonic possession of the machine, is what we experimentally have so far.
asciilifeform: rather than physical effect of individual gate
asciilifeform: unless novel hell is of some higher-level mathematical variety
asciilifeform: if never metastable, then no
asciilifeform: and was in fact the missing ingredient
asciilifeform: but i seem to be the only one who (publicly) realized that it is the very thing for building dataflow comp.
asciilifeform: (no clock, so only propagation delays matter)
asciilifeform: you cool it down, it speeds up
asciilifeform: exhibits other interesting properties.
asciilifeform: but at any rate they do not end up wedged in practice (folks with $maxint have built otherwise conventional cpu without clock using c-gate, they don't wedge)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure if this is rigorously proven, but approximately yes
asciilifeform: ^ iirc we did it a bit
asciilifeform: !s c-gate
asciilifeform: sure is
asciilifeform: wanted to see something physzed ?
asciilifeform: my concern because life is short and i want to compute with c-gates.
asciilifeform: not necessarily impossible - but who's to say when.
asciilifeform: but if didn't show, only explained why, the thing would have to be re-invented to be built
asciilifeform: because an ordinary logic gate can enter a 'metastable' wedge-state if it is given a 'pathological' input transition (i.e. you try to use the output before the inputs are stable)
asciilifeform: they have to wait for inputs to 'settle'