asciilifeform: one might even say: bureaucracy was the first computer

asciilifeform: his new nick alone was a loud, profane fart in that direction

asciilifeform: (mr spam!)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: needed his nick plus perhaps 3 words out of his idiot mouth

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i instantly knew who it was

asciilifeform: 'you’re not going to find a cable poking up in the loo of a data centre when it reaches its destination.' << at one point there was a vendor who pushed a 'robotic rat' for doing precisely this

asciilifeform likes the term 'brown fiber' used in this article, wonders if actual extant term of art or neologism

asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/26/feature_zayo_fibre_network_in_london_sewers << vintage but stimulating

asciilifeform: !b 3 ✂︎

asciilifeform: !up Luke-Jr

asciilifeform: plus the consumer crud (linksys) they bought out

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they sell to the usual captive audience, that suffices

asciilifeform: for the враги народа

asciilifeform: and for the wreckerz

asciilifeform: simply to be loudly found out and distract from above.

asciilifeform: begins with every fart of the program design and ends with the crate which is opened yet again for good measure

asciilifeform: 'spy chips'

asciilifeform: what a muppet show

asciilifeform: 'consensus' is a beloved usg-ism >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-11-2014#926290 ☝︎

asciilifeform: pyronecrocryptozoophilia.

asciilifeform: for a corpse, he's doing a good deal of dancing.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-03-2015#1043874 ☝︎

asciilifeform: but apparently this dope is being passed out, because i routinely run into folks who have this kind of mental bug

asciilifeform: what kind of dope does one need to take to even imagine otherwise ?

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: and there mircea_popescu observed that such a thing would have to come with a strong proof of equivalence to be worth taking seriously

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: in the old thread, that is; it was about a hypothetical clean re-implementation of the whole thing

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: the changes being contemplated involve losing 100% of the original

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there was one in here around 12 hrs ago

asciilifeform has understood that there is not an else

asciilifeform: aha how else

asciilifeform: but was hoping the answer is something else

asciilifeform: i can picture how

asciilifeform: do we even get a 'vv' in engl. and if so, what human sound does it correspond to

asciilifeform: i thought it was 'chavv'

asciilifeform: should be enough to make your stomach do pirouettes

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: try to understand the actual scope of such an audit

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dare say i did figure out. but not enough hands here.

asciilifeform: ^ that thread.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034831 ☝︎

asciilifeform: the 'bug for bug' thing is set to be an actual problem in the future.

asciilifeform: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/share/misc/bsd-family-tree?view=markup

asciilifeform shudders to imagine a unixlike os where threading flakes

asciilifeform: threading works on any posix

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't intend to bring the cardboard

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's mostly cardboard, as you can tell

asciilifeform: whether like it or not.

asciilifeform: folks doing dev work of one kind or another - run 'current'

asciilifeform: i had a box with it, for instance

asciilifeform: plenty of folks run -CURRENT

asciilifeform: midnightmagic: it -was- released to production

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#985417 << that one ☝︎

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: let's insert a link to the old thread here, so we don't have to repeat it.

asciilifeform: midnightmagic: when it ditched gcc

asciilifeform: midnightmagic: freebsd turned stool pigeon long ago

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: if the usg charlatans want to create a fork with incompatible tx validation rules, they are welcome to.

asciilifeform: !up Luke-Jr

asciilifeform: but midnightmagic is thinking of security, rather than forkholes

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: know of another ?

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: since fixed

asciilifeform: there are still plenty of non-'leveldb' nodes operating

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: can you give an example of a 'wedge' which could be pounded in to create this fork ?

asciilifeform: how does consensus care, so long as i answer queries in precisely same way as 'leveldb' user

asciilifeform: yes but why 'leveldb.' say i'd like to use a db which runs on a martian trinary computer and writes bits to miniature dead babies turned in one of two directions

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: but why does it matter on protocol level what kind of db is used locally ?

asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: but why does it matter on protocol level what kind of db is used locally ?

asciilifeform: how does a db end up thought of as part of the protocol ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'pogo' contains a switchable-endianness micro

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: remember http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/kirkwood/assets/FS_88F6180_9x_6281_OpenSource.pdf ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is welcome to build it bigendian now

asciilifeform: mod6 is passing'em out or running personally

asciilifeform: than buy a new car

asciilifeform: i'd rather fill a suitcase with benjies & publicly burn it

asciilifeform: was about to say

asciilifeform: (rather than dangerous)

asciilifeform: *endangered animal

asciilifeform: possibly the most dangerous animal to be in the lands of usg (and au, as i understand, is a kind of target practice range for usg idiocies) is the fella with just enough to be worth skinning, but three or four zeroes short of mircea_popescu-esque atomic dirigible where he can hit back ☟︎

asciilifeform: it may well save your skin ☟︎

asciilifeform: cultivate this reputation. ☟︎

asciilifeform: cazalla clearly has insufficient reputation for poverty ☟︎

asciilifeform: waiwat

asciilifeform: ^ mega-lulzatron

asciilifeform: l0l, looking for the r4tc4g3 found - http://www.protogermanic.com/2012/02/power-tends-to-corrupt-absolute-power.html

asciilifeform: https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5924387/il_fullxfull.223598961.jpg

asciilifeform: ^ from, i think, one of the film versions

asciilifeform: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--x5WK3_Zo--/fzogcaspzsoynnfdqeg2.jpg

asciilifeform: incidentally i often wonder if the ratfacecage is still in fashion somewhere

asciilifeform: at night they walk, you can see'em

asciilifeform: huge rats here, straight out of the ratfacecage scene in '1984'

asciilifeform: what, where BingoBoingo lives there are no rats ?

asciilifeform: when moving last year - left it on the kerb. and someone picked it up...

asciilifeform: funny thing, it sat in my old flat for... 7 years, in the kitchen closet, filled with rat shit

asciilifeform: (at one point had spare, old one - exploded capacitor, filled dorm floor with smoke)

asciilifeform: the power supply also slid out

asciilifeform: all or mostly all steel, mad-heavy

asciilifeform: everything, incl. mb, slid out on rails

asciilifeform: emf mesh behind all openings

asciilifeform: http://karilavikka.fi/gfx/sekalaista_tauhkaa/hp/j5600/151_5183.JPG << not mine but very similar

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the most 'shieldy' box i've ever personally owned was a hp 'visualize'