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mircea_popescu: i'm starting to see a pattern here. "republic is unbiblical but i wanna be in the lordship, sloth is bad but what i do is not much, etc". you know, the principal theory as to ~why~ the catholics go to hell is specifically the trade in "indulgences", which is to say, EXACTLY that procedure ?
mircea_popescu: different, i grant, from the usual "find some dependocunt to worship along with her spawn", but rather in coloring than substance.
danielpbarron: i know what is not the reason, beyond that perhaps i don't know
danielpbarron: i'm not a very good manager of myself
danielpbarron: i would like to be as productive in my free time as i used to be in my professional life ☟︎
asciilifeform: dare i to ask how that worx ? what is it, ...eat mushroom and watch cartoons on ceiling?
danielpbarron: i don't see the two being exclusive of each other. If you are saying that I don't do enough here, I can't disagree. But the reason for not doing enough isn't that I am morally opposed to it. If i'm to be removeed as lord it should be because I have been too lazy about it; not that it was in irreconcilable conflict with my religious beliefs
mircea_popescu: not a matter of "well, when coming from out of town pizzeria is closer, whereas when going out of town trattoria is closer, so whatever, depending on how hungry i am i sit where it happens"
asciilifeform remembers old su joak. orthodox j00 kid is going to town for 1st time. asks, 'rebbe, there are many temptations in the city, what should i avoid looking at' 'waddayamean' 'well, i heard there are chix' 'what of'em?' 'well, i hear there's them strippers... good jew should not look at strippers?' 'you can look at strippers' 'there are bare cunts! really, good jew can look at cunts?!' 'yes' 'so what ~shouldn't~ a good jew look at
danielpbarron: i don't think it is wrong to be involved in this or any other government, in principle
mircea_popescu: sorta like "well, i should diet, in principle. meanwhile, this profiterol is the only dessert that doesn't suck, so give me another" ?
danielpbarron: well it doesn't make sense like any government doesn't make sense, but this is the best one I know of
mircea_popescu: i'm rather curious what goes on in your own mind, which is why i said i don't follow the logic. "i wanna be in the lordship though i don't think the republic makes sense". well ?!
mircea_popescu: i don't even know it's a requirement. for that matter, it's not clear how precisely the republic would even come to notice something as ridiculously trivial as whatever religious belief (unless i suppose you end up doing dumb shit "because of it", but even then, 0 difference between "religion" and "but then i got high" or w/e).
danielpbarron: if a requirement of being a lord is that i have to call tmsr the true and only god, then i do not want to be called one
mircea_popescu: but i mean... it's not "build on biblical principles". nor is it going to be.
danielpbarron: bitcoin is still an interest of mine, and i enjoy the position. I'm very much invested in it between maintaining a node and my holdings in Eulora
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i'll confess trying to follow the logic of your articles fails here. do you even want to be in the lordship then ?
danielpbarron: pingbacks never worked for me until i got on pizarro
danielpbarron: yeah i'm putting old stuff into my new setup finally
mircea_popescu: so i got a bunch of danielpbarron pingbacks from like 2016 for some reason (beat that, rw mail services)! among which one for http://danielpbarron.com/2016/are-you-thankful/
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 21:38 mircea_popescu: and i could keep on going in this manner, but the fact remains : the wooden sword cut no heads.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875587 << i suspect that most of'em dun even get as far as start un-infiltrated in own head ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and i could keep on going in this manner, but the fact remains : the wooden sword cut no heads. ☟︎
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, 'loyal opposition' chumpatron, and somewhat long past its expiration date
a111: Logged on 2015-05-21 22:13 Hasimir: oh, did I forget to mention, I'm the treasurer of pirate party australia
mircea_popescu: i do recall an http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ "skeptical" moron ; buit the name didn't ring for some reason.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:34 mircea_popescu: (other than in a discussion with the sort of imbecile typified today by hasimir, i dunno either of us gives half a shit.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523164 i mean, apparently, i had an idea at some point. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean wtf even is a "hasimir" or w/e.
asciilifeform: dunno, i always give'em a control shot
asciilifeform: ( the other 2 i have nfi about, prolly similar critters )
asciilifeform: i suspect it's the usual kind of zombie 'existence'
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall, rando hanger-on from the -otc days.
grubles: i asked a question. did you not see it above?
asciilifeform: so in so far as i can tell case was thrown on 'just because, suck it, plebe' grounds, rather than logicals
mircea_popescu: i don't want that moron touching my food. restaurant is for subbie sluts anyway, who the fuck needs this item.
mircea_popescu: i suppose, by the above logic, 400 years ago she'd have asked the lord of the mannor, parish priest, and passing royal messenger "plox help, my cows udders seem to be growing, wut do, wut do". helluva milk maid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from cursory dig, seems like whole thing took place at a kind of trade school where they taught 'seekoority', i.e. how to install av on winblowz etc
mircea_popescu: oh this is precious. "If it were just a one-off I wouldn't mention it... but if I do notice it happening again it would be good to know what process I should follow."
asciilifeform: i suspect that 400y ago this chix would've insisted that devils inseminated her while slept etc
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 21:57 davout: started training for my airline transport pilot license in december, and i'm stuck in ground school phase until may~june, until then i barely even make time to go take a shit
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, threatened to do ~sumthing or other~ with wallet trb... in 2017
asciilifeform: ( plox to correct me here, mircea_popescu , if i'm mistaken )
mircea_popescu: i imagine that'll be spyked's next thing, bot-driven vtrees mirror service. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and to start porting packages that i use in life )
asciilifeform: i defo intend to host mirror
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:04 phf: asciilifeform: presumably entire portage tree pulls from https:// unless trinque also hosting a mirror of everything (i haven't looked yet)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875184 << he does, and if useful i / others also certainly will. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trb dun use any 'wwwism' from ssl, only the ecc numerics, so i expect just about any extant version will link and run. the rub is how it'd behave in unexplored corner cases, as in the der sig affair
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:43 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> will also be interesting to see if trb can sit down on trinque's libressl thing, instead of the frozen ancient openssl it currently goes with << I run a bitcoind linked against libressl 2.5.5 and so far it hasn't forked
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:30 asciilifeform: i presently suspect that this is because gnathtml uses gcc's AST for the input data, rather than the raw proggy text
mircea_popescu: (i gotta recall to say /vulˈpɛs/ to the man's face, see what he says)
mircea_popescu: i meant for names.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the end we can't end up worse off than with hashes or something.
asciilifeform: i prefer to be able to name files on own hdd with arbitrary names , so long as it dun break anyffing. and it doesn;t.
mircea_popescu: there's somewhere i explain the problem with small children, that they take a look at world around them, which creates a snapshot in their mind that's static, and then they fall over because they don't natively understand that just because the fulcrum's left side is up like the chair next to it is up, nevertheless, the load bearing capacity of the fulcrum is less than a percent of the chairs'.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:17 asciilifeform: phf: imho the correct thing to do, if you have 2 bitwise-identical patches , is to display only 1 ( i'd prefer it be the one using my naming scheme, given as it is my proj, but i also won't cry if it's the other ) -- and the sigs that match it
asciilifeform: i got a whole stamp album fulla these.
asciilifeform: ( these --- do apparently exist! tho i presently have nfi who uses'em, and for what )
asciilifeform: i wasn't even immediately aware that gnat existed, thought that one had to get some TB-sized winliquishit from lockheed etc in order to ada.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when i went , all the good profs were already grey and weary, so not particularly surprising, i expect they died
phf: ftr i had no objections to ada either, i suspect the barfs were coming from peanut gallery of people who since dropped off
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff we also had here '1 lang/week' curriculum. tho i did learn that many yrs ago it was abolished at asciilifeform's sad old uni, in favour of iphonism etc
phf: actually i'm not sure what i just said made any kind of sense. i need to look at cuntoo first, and then reassess what i'm trying to say.
phf: mircea_popescu: my impression is that trinque has some kind of mechanism of inlining source code into cuntoo, so instead of it being a matrioshka doll of nested vpatches, any new vpatch to cuntoo brings in ebuild AND the already unpacked source code. my approach keeps the vpatches separate from cuntoo: you install cuntoo first, then pull vpatches separately. i haven't looked at cuntoo yet, so i'm not sure how he's doing it though
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff, i also pascal in school
mircea_popescu: i suppose the using of the weird directory structure's an eyesore, but whatever, can be fixed later.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:38 phf: i have a poc, that uses vpy as an alternative to EGIT_REPO_URI. you put all of the vpatches and sigs into /usr/portage/distfiles/vpatches and you have your wot in /etc/wot and you say V_HEAD='foobar' and it attempts to press whatever's in distfiles to the corresponding head, and then use it as a build target. it works, but i'm not sure that's the right direction..
mircea_popescu: diana_coman neither do i, which makes me suspicious!\
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't remember any barf bag of my own!
asciilifeform: if we had irons with bounds checkers, i would not even have dug up ada.
trinque: phf: I'm developing a sense that lisp is a thinking tool, not an engineering tool.
phf: i was very much insulated from open sores lisp with acl, just sort of assumed that they were all basically the same. turns out that common lisp world is a cargo cult. for when spec was never supposed to be and all be all: it was a _thin_ common ground of a variety of rich lisp ecosystem. writing _just_ to spec is an exercise in frustration..
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:47 Framedragger: this isis girl in tor reads crypto papers and implements them and runs their bridges infrastructure which uses its own nifty things (hashrings for distributing bridge nodes etc), i'm quite certain she hasn't heard
mircea_popescu: nono, i mean the community. expert sex change etcetera. you know, the echelons and the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-25#1874513 and the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592242 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: fwiw i prototype algos in cl, which later turn into ada , but this is 'harem' rather than forum
mircea_popescu: "so you're a femme fatale ?" "i sure am, mister" "take off your clothes" "whoa"
mircea_popescu: i'd have thought with all the lisp fans it'd have spurned some fermentation.
phf: mircea_popescu: i did, i believe the reaction at the time was "let's see what'll come out of it", nothing came out of it though: cl-bitcoin in it's half baked state is using cffi to openssl
mircea_popescu: phf need i tell you how cool'd it have been had you said this 2016 rather than 2018 ?
phf: asciilifeform: apropos i've attempted two years ago to do a rewrite for my cl-bitcoin, got bogged down in group theory, at this point still trying to power through an "introduction to group theory" text book.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't answer that q yet.
asciilifeform: can be written from scratch ( whoever thinks that he can do it faster than asciilifeform's ffa, is welcome to try, i promise to take off hat ) or on ffa, either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform constant time is a d) in that scheme. though i guess c-d may well package.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu gives signal that we're fucking done with the old flintlock pistols, then i'ma start welding on ffa in trb as soon as the former is battlefield-ready.
mircea_popescu: certainly no tolerance of "i'm waiting on fondling for the fuck to get here"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i proposed this several yrs ago, but it was mircea_popescu who then reminded about air filters in old dacia
trinque: ah, don't mind me then. I agree entirely.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, correct re 1 disk; for the rest I'll have to decide but first step has to be testing trinque's new item locally anyway
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. the kind where somebody had to climb into the gears erry 6mo to change the frayed windlass rope ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:29 trinque: and the plan is indeed to get ave1's in, and I invite him to write the ebuild. the point of what I released is to preserve the found item, can now start changing it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: correct, theoretically may be movable ( tho as i recall, you currently have 1 disk, and if you're planning on filling the other disk holes -- and disks are available -- may as well install clean )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i stole the idea from there, yes
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 13:44 spyked: trinque, mircea_popescu: one thing I could do is have it deliver a small number of feeds (e.g. thetarpit, since that's under my control anyway) and have it subscribed to the others whenever you feel like. for now, all delivery to #trilema is disabled (and I'll bring the bot back on mircea_popescu's sign).
trinque: for now I'd like folks to confirm they get the same genesis.vpatch out the other end
diana_coman: the test before the test; well, yes, I'll have to
trinque: diana_coman: not necessarily, but I'd want to write you a guide before encouraging you to attempt (or have you write a guide using a machine locally)
diana_coman: aha; (tbh it seemed like that but I was being optimistic for once); so atm I'd need to basically nuke s.mg's test machine to move it on to cuntoo
trinque: if you're feeling adventurous, read the bootstrap scripts and it should indicate what'd need to happen to convert a living system, but I had the thing generate a new bootable blockdev because of these hairy complications