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pete_dushenski: don't tell me, tell other kids on 'financial samurai'
pete_dushenski: it's indeed very painful to come to terms with how poor you really are when you discover that folks making 10-20x what you are ARE ALSO POOR. certainly not as poorly positioned, but not rolling out of bed and into silk house robes at 10am on a tuesday either. sucks.
pete_dushenski: in other struggles, there's some butthurt gold in these comments : http://www.financialsamurai.com/scraping-by-on-500000-a-year-high-income-earners-struggling/#comments
pete_dushenski: what appears to be a news story : https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware
pete_dushenski: aaaaan stan beat me once again to the punch on the news break. by two days! (bad pete, don't skim logs so loosely). but the spoofcard angle is at least novel, as a construction if nothing else.
pete_dushenski: lo and behold, TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN. but do the haters recant ? hm ?
pete_dushenski: kid is obv jewish. but when trump goes on the record saying the 'sudden rise in anti-semitism' is a hoax, which it is, every epithet in the old testament is thrown at him by the adl and their cronies at nyt.
pete_dushenski: woman. And rather than use a traceable credit card or PayPal, the perpetrator paid for his Spoofcard in Bitcoin—another dead end. […] SpoofCard and services like it have plenty of legitimate users, such as undercover cops […] "When requested, we [Spoofcard] comply quickly and responsibly with lawful requests from all levels of law enforcement, and we have built specific tools to prevent abuse.”
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/tXONX << "The suspect arrested Thursday for a wave of bomb threats against Jewish Community Centers in the United States employed an array of technologies, including  Bitcoin and Google Voice, to make himself virtually untraceable for months […] Even the caller’s voice was anonymous—he used Spoofcard’s voice-changing option to make himself sound like a voice synthesizer imitating a
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/03/shinohais-shitcoin-roundup-xtend-huffers-fail-to-replicate-namecoin-just-a-tip-never-ceases-venezuela-still-poor-and-secsilbert-drama/ << Qntra - Shinohai's Shitcoin Roundup Xtend: Huffers Fail To Replicate Namecoin, "Just A Tip" Never Ceases, Venezuela Still Poor, And SEC/Silbert Drama
ben_vulpes: (just the web process)
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/eFu4E/?raw=true
asciilifeform: for instance, it is a good habit to search for a topic in the logs, prior to asking after it.
asciilifeform: likewise, phf's ( the linked logtron ) has back-reference links ( when a line is mentioned, you can go from it, to the mentions ) and other conveniences (search, for instance.)
asciilifeform: between phf's logtron, Framedragger's, and ben_vulpes's -- ~100% coverage. unlike, say, your own connection plus the particular fleanode box it may happen to be on.
asciilifeform: folks coming from heathendom, who 'oh i'll lurk', despite being shown the logs, remind me of fresh-off-the-boat emigres from east asia who will come to somebody's house and then insist on trying to balance with their legs on the toilet, 'just like back home'
shinohai: Cool, there are like almost NO lurkers here
CompanionCube wants to just lurk
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell TomServo also your 'recovery' debug.log doesn't seem to be one -- there are no block acceptance messages therein
asciilifeform: ^ the opening shot.
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that reorg can only fail if there is a catastrophic problem with db ☟︎
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell TomServo you were right, it wasn't the clock, the original log is monotonic ( probably oughta post it publicly ) -- the boojum is a failed reorg, and it is impossible to say why it failed, could be disk rot.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, somebody must've read mircea_popescu's story with the bus seats : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakyqmG9XHs
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/133CEB2E181DE608F7BDCEAC5019F101DC8C8E098181B0438D5E915DC357C29A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1350...2753 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.111.184.211 (ssh-rsa key from 89.111.184.211 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (2589.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/133CEB2E181DE608F7BDCEAC5019F101DC8C8E098181B0438D5E915DC357C29A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1619...8757 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.111.184.211 (ssh-rsa key from 89.111.184.211 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (2589.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/03/sears-running-out-of-things-to-sell/ << Qntra - Sears Running Out Of Things To Sell
trinque: TomServo: teh ministry of deedbutt thanks you for your report
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot TomServo
TomServo: trinque: cool. thanks.
trinque: lemme see what was in the original export
trinque: TomServo: I didn't delete any data, but I'm happy to look into it.
TomServo: If I recall, there was a case sensitivity issue during the schism
ben_vulpes: TomServo: have you tried registering?
TomServo: Before my voice goes, trinque how do I get unwiped from the wot?
asciilifeform: at any rate imho the log paste nails it, case closed.
asciilifeform: ( somebody with a node on a lan, that nothing is relying on -- try it )
asciilifeform: also i betcha you can replicate this effect by moving clock back.
asciilifeform: !!up TomServo
asciilifeform: alternatively you can write the perl script to find when your clock ran backwards, yourself.
TomServo: Not quite a 1G, I have to restart it a lot. I'll find somewhere for it.
asciilifeform: TomServo: odd, i don't see anything re timestamps in there
asciilifeform: (or , alternatively, a catastrophically buggy timestamp printer )
ben_vulpes: yeah i see it now. the ~~ ~~ confused me.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: these two pastes are supposed to be from same debug.log
asciilifeform: nono this is interesting
TomServo: Don't waste any more time on it. I'll verify some things.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: think for 5min.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: comparing timestamps above and below vs ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: he must've put in timestamps, at some point, iirc a few people did
TomServo: Hmmm, little late to be getting caught up with daylight savings..
ben_vulpes: eh? timestamps?
asciilifeform: now, ~why~ TomServo's clock ran backwards, i do not know.
asciilifeform: hence the block rejection.
asciilifeform: at some point, time flowed backwards...
asciilifeform: how can these occur in the same debug.log if the clock were monotonic.
asciilifeform: from your pastes it looks to me like your clock runs nonmonotonically !!
asciilifeform: i think something is wrong with your clock, TomServo
TomServo: I just tail for height, I'm going through the whole debug now.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 21:40 TomServo: I was just curious if anyone else saw this in there trb, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WRtLs/?raw=true
asciilifeform: and how did you come up with these pastes ? shouldn't the 03/20/17 01:19:27 and 03/20/17 01:19:28 piece have appeared INSIDE the one at http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632424 ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: also what patch set do you use, TomServo ? my trb doesn't have time stamps, for instance.
asciilifeform: prior to the 1st segment ? or after ?
asciilifeform: where was this
asciilifeform: TomServo: what happened when you restarted ? post the first MB or so of log after the restart.
TomServo: asciilifeform: time is okay, other than trb logs being gmt system is cdt. disk okay. Yes, earliest.
asciilifeform: look for the earliest mention, and also for 'Reorganize failed' and 'ConnectBlock failed', and post plz.
asciilifeform: TomServo: is the linked snippet the earliest occurrence of the string InvalidChainFound in your debug.log ?
asciilifeform: check also that the disk is not full.
asciilifeform: TomServo: is there anything peculiar about the clock on that box ?
asciilifeform: not found any such thing on either of my nodes.
asciilifeform: negative TomServo
TomServo: Mine ran like that until presently, when I restarted it. Waiting to see what happens.
TomServo: Didn't see mention in the logs.
TomServo: I was just curious if anyone else saw this in there trb, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WRtLs/?raw=true ☟︎
TomServo: Ahoy there.
asciilifeform: !!up TomServo
trinque: sometimes it's hard to contort oneself to the fatlogic required to read these things
asciilifeform: 'what the hell do you want with those old blocks, terrorist'
trinque: lulk, no problem then
trinque: it's not clear; they propose replacing the existing signature checking OPs entirely, so maybe the crackpot idea is schnorr past certain block
asciilifeform: though there's nothing to keep crackpot alts from wrapping whatever they want around existing sigs
trinque: they say in the article that they would want to convert the whole existing chain to this scheme
trinque: and that the intent is to be able to malleate transactions into multisig
trinque: I expect that the Snore signature is easily collided by some means; obviously I'm not sitting here with the exploit in hand. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-12-27 17:38 asciilifeform: 'It is about sending a strong message. I think we may need to start an accreditation scheme for Bitcoin-consensus compliant wallets and services. Through code signing and use of multisig, we can even distinguish transactions made by compliant wallets and non-compliant wallets, and have pools not mine them (or wallets refuse to send to known-non-compliant wallets).'
trinque: and I take the above to mean they'd be able to craft multi-sig transactions that are signature equivalent to a single-sig I create.
asciilifeform: trinque: it's a multilayered shit-sandwich: aside from the crackpot 'infinite number of sigs in finite sized crate' aspect entirely:
trinque: "From a privacy standpoint, Schnorr allows the entire policy of the multisig to be obscured and indistinguishable from a conventional single pubkey." << and what happens when the indistinguishability flows the other way...
asciilifeform: iirc he's most of what's left of prb in terms of working hands, neh ☟︎
asciilifeform: also where does the 1k figure come from ? for what does a smallholder-farmer even need money. ☟︎
asciilifeform: in the form of imposed 'living expenses.'
asciilifeform: the other end of it is that the afghani has no printing press dumping usd on him by the megatonne. and if he did -- someone would collect it back , yes
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 19:28 mircea_popescu: afghanistan fambly lived happily for 1k/year pre usg tardation, for instance.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632355 << orlol discussed this, and it was 100% true, 'homo americanus' has some very serious damage that is very expensive to build prosthesis for -- he has no family , no friends, no one will lend him money other than at extortionate rates, has no one alive whom he could live with in small hut, 5 to 10 sq. metres, without killing one another ☝︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
trinque: isn't bless the "make bootable" thinger on a mac?
ben_vulpes: and it looks like we're stuck with the aca.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> "fucking what? you need your own leagues to even take a podium spot." << heheh