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phf: it's the diff between bezzle and tide. tax increase happens in sync with devaluation because otherwise you discover that there's not enough aspirin.
asciilifeform: bidding up, e.g., cardboard houses, or better still, ornate paper -- things of which no conceivable shortage exists, or could ever begin to exist -- is , notice, a-ok by lizard lights.
asciilifeform: but there was that old mircea_popescu thread. where, approx, 'a dollar usg collects from mr.pleb in tax isn't so that usg can spend a dollar, it can spend $trillion, or ten, without collecting anything; it collects the dollar because otherwise mr.pleb will use it to bid up turkeys' ☟︎
asciilifeform: can't seem to find -- maybe i dreamed it.
asciilifeform: waitasec didn't we have this exact thread last week
phf: ben_vulpes: if your hendging against devaluation happens in bezzle terms, but your more tax is the "guberment done it", than this distinction makes sense. i don't think that in reality more tax just happens, it's a process by which devaluation graph gets readjusted
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 16:42 mircea_popescu: possibly we're talking of two things.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634099 << There are many kinds of faux granite from inkjet printed plastic to rocks and resin simulation ☝︎
ben_vulpes: phf: not ideological, financial! you can hedge against devaluation. what is the hedge against moar taxes? ☟︎
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm sure there's some ideological angle where two are not the same, but from where i sit...
asciilifeform: they still charge tax, it simply gets rolled into electric bill, etc.
asciilifeform: phun phakt : tax rate in north kr is...
ben_vulpes: dilution of the dollar to pay for encampment of takers i'm hedged against
ben_vulpes: obamacare took plenty from me
asciilifeform: 'we won't take even 1$ from you -- we'll simply give 1$ to everyone not-you.'
asciilifeform: ( the other funny detail, it certainly ain't ~everyone~ who'd get payola. certainly not dirty kulaks. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: the 'let's give EVERYBODY $income' thing goes beyond mere retardation; make the folx who play lotteries, and even pyramids, look brilliant. at least ~somebody~ wins, in a pyramid
ben_vulpes: nah, not the same at all
ben_vulpes: giant towers with water, calories and internet piped directly to the basics
asciilifeform: and 'end to end encryption' crapolade, and other mandatory pravda
CompanionCube: found in the DOM: '<script charset="UTF-8" src="https://cdn-static-1.medium.com/_/fp/gen-js/main-base.bundle.a2iyA8Q63Pk153QZP5oV8A.js" async=""></script>'
CompanionCube: because I was saying that it either was or is a deliberate clone
asciilifeform: nobila ca si virtutea, tot atat de necesara ca si justitia'
asciilifeform: http://188.27.236.125/baroul-suceava.ro >> 'Avocatura este tot atat de veche ca si magistratura, tot atat de ☟︎
CompanionCube: did you take that as me saying it's not Medium
asciilifeform: http://188.27.236.125/haisa.ro >> 'e to thee, Osiris, Lord of eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy. ...'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 17:13 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C892F08463D98CB6B5BACC2AE59A9736B0FB94ADF1ECD40E6F5CA6BBAA176640 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1523...9893 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '188.27.236.125 (ssh-rsa key from 188.27.236.125 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (188-27-236-125.rdsnet.ro. RO IS)
CompanionCube hasn't used tincd as a VPN-to-the-internet, only as a virtual LAN equivalent.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: frightening heathen pit, btw, that site.
phf: i suspect back in the day it allowed vendors to optimize for usage patterns. "unlimited traffic vpn" vs running it on a tightly metered box
phf: y'all never tried configuring openvpn
CompanionCube: nope, but from their perspective it may as well be. Not that I'd agree though.
asciilifeform: it ain't like you have to write sshd from scratch.
CompanionCube: or want a turnkey hands-off solution
CompanionCube: asciilifeform: presumably because they are too lazy for that
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i never understood 'vpn service' -- why not hire a cheapo commercial linux box and route whateverses through it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform missing ~ to properly indicate authorsheep
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly misbounded quoteblock in latest trilema
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 20:47 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632355 << orlol discussed this, and it was 100% true, 'homo americanus' has some very serious damage that is very expensive to build prosthesis for -- he has no family , no friends, no one will lend him money other than at extortionate rates, has no one alive whom he could live with in small hut, 5 to 10 sq. metres, without killing one another
mircea_popescu: by now there's just too many of these small and "in itself defensible" idiocies piled up.
asciilifeform: i have said this before, but everyday life in usa makes the good doktor mengele's stitch-his-head-to-his-arse look like harmless hobby
ben_vulpes: funny how all manifestations of modernity look alike. entertain even a smidge of wokeness and you'll wake up in trans camp. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (3rd order : the best fungicide is... bacteria. the best antiseptic is... bacteria. that's why your skin stays healthy -- you are covered by your friends.)
mircea_popescu: 2nd and 3rd order effects are even more important than the direct
mircea_popescu: much like opting to have a natural compost pile in a shady spot in the garden instead of fertilizer and "modern our democracy" will result in a much better ecosystem, with birds and earthworms and so on ; just like a good cheese and yogurt diet rather than taking peptobismol will result in a happier digestion ; just so havinga house full of linens rather than nylons will result in a much happier overal environment to live in,
ben_vulpes: heh and this ocmpounds, because now your kids don't have an immune system because your surfaces are overcolonized (and with the most ahistorical of populations at that), so not only do you have to clean the stink away but also keep ~everything out of the kid's mouths.
mircea_popescu: so you're up to a certain point stuck overwashing once you buy the plastic angle.
mircea_popescu: moreover it selects for unfriendly kinds of bacteria (hence the milk example -- tho0ugh there the uht process does the selection)
mircea_popescu: plastics make a splendid substrate for bacteria, much better than anything else.
mircea_popescu: all things "that stink" are your brain identifying the metabolic byproduct of bacterial life ; and knowing from experience their presence doesn't mix well with your continued existence.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i dunno, you implied the stink came from the synthetics alone!
asciilifeform: hound of the baskervilles.
mircea_popescu: what do you think makes things stink ben_vulpes ?!
asciilifeform: not long ago i walked to post office along different, for no good reason, path, to mail a FG, and saw the largest and most impressive dog i ever saw
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't follow the connection between the 'stinky' synthetic fabrics and the bacteria
mircea_popescu: let's consider a simple illustration : normal milk going sour becomes a different kind of aliment - sour milk. usian milk going sour becomes this utterly bitter horror.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well you gotta keep the bacteria away.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/stop-being-so-fucking-poor/ << Trilema - Stop being so fucking poor!
ben_vulpes: or is this in re the fragrance obsession
ben_vulpes: what does the stink have to do with the sterility obsession?
ben_vulpes: take 'em outside, roll them in dirt, make sure they eat some.
mircea_popescu: this is up to a point unavoidable -- the cheaper synthetics they use, especially fibers, stink.
ben_vulpes: moreover one large reason americans are so sick is a dangerous obsession with the sterile living environment.
mircea_popescu: he has a point though, there's good reason kids should be raised with puppies not kittenbs.
ben_vulpes: trinque: there is poop everywhere
trinque: oh god, the regular extended cab is bad enough.
trinque: read: lol there is poop in my mouth
mircea_popescu: "this truck shoulda been a limo amirite"
trinque: "maybe you're the mini cooper type..."
trinque: but yes, kind of like these folks that never put anything in the back of their truck
mircea_popescu: no quarter for joeks! this is srs bzns!!1
mircea_popescu: dog-pets work fine for 5 to maybe 11 or 12yo boys, but this mostly because the kid will pull its ears etc.
phf: well, it's a telling selection of canine behaviors is my point. my dog was a lot more useful than "sit" and "shut up"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes notrly. i mean i dunno, to my eyes the whole "dog as pet" thing is kinda inept. get a hunting dog, go hunting with it, suddenly it's a lot more respectable an animal.
ben_vulpes: but also those are just the canine behaviors, neh?
ben_vulpes: phf: mhm ya think?
phf: i think "sit" and "shut up" is aspirational. when you're at that point, you kind of want something practical out
mircea_popescu: the merit is mostly the girls'.
ben_vulpes: you've been at it, what, a decade and a half at this point?
mircea_popescu: and in fairness i dun think i have to bid anyoine shut up once a week.
mircea_popescu has girls out fetching things lamost continuously.
ben_vulpes: chewing the /male/ though...
ben_vulpes: no chewing the mail though
ben_vulpes: shinohai: honestly the only canine behaviors i really want are "sit" and "shut up"
trinque: corvette activites are meant to be done on the hood
ben_vulpes: corvette's too cramped to even get road head in halfway conveniently
mircea_popescu: 's teh problem, he can just turn part of the corvette into an office!
phf: i sort of assume that people who quit job to be with family look and act like derek ireland at the end of one of his yoga videos
shinohai: Wanted: One office slut. Must be flexible, fit under desks, and be able to emulate canine behaviours. No collar required.
ben_vulpes: hey just because i fired everyone doesn't mean i'm not wandering around naked in the cavernous echo chamber of my own delusion every day
phf: i thought you need an office for an office slut
shinohai takes note of ben_vulpes new interest, vows to find irl doggy girls to suit ....
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 00:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1633429 << we did https://68.media.tumblr.com/fa9a2501411802f10f1ddcaf88a17b7f/tumblr_o218aqlfjI1sk3xdpo1_500.gif I take it ?
ben_vulpes: and to continue the thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633564 , https://68.media.tumblr.com/23040c080667cf8e80427caf495cb435/tumblr_oge2frqsL81ve4x7to1_400.gif ☝︎
mircea_popescu: way ofg the windows.
asciilifeform: what does somebody have to smoke, to think of it.
mircea_popescu: vaguely recall this being discussed round the original crisis.
mircea_popescu: i thought we're pretty much aware it's 1000000, but anytway
asciilifeform: which is not necessarily as fixable as 'fix the constant'
asciilifeform: but overall folx oughta remember mircea_popescu's observation from c3, that any attempt to reimplement ye olde grandfather's pistol from scratch, will almost certainly have at least one lethal 'accepts something the old -- would not' defect.