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mircea_popescu: trinque always struck me as a case of "i know these people are right but i don't want them to be" internal tension. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque i imagine dood just didn't know how to proceed and too weird to ask.
trinque: at any rate, the thing's HORRIBLY NAMED AND DEFINED class tree is bad enough; I don't think I'd ever sign anything that introduces yet another atop.
asciilifeform: fwiw i have nfi why thing doesn't live in same place as trilema
mircea_popescu: this a) re an ip that hasn't sent any mail in the past i dunno, six months ? and b) from the phuctor people.
asciilifeform: yaya untermenschen don't see their obvious destiny to plug machinegun embrasure for the glory of tmsr
mircea_popescu utterly can't be arsed to care anymore.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i actually don't mind it, it's sort of like trying to write only in aliterations.
mircea_popescu: heck, in one of the many plaintive items about "omfg you aren;'t going to believe the state of nuke tech", there even was the story of jhow bluetooth is bannable offense.
phf: asciilifeform: i haven't had a chance to meet with zeptobars guy yet, but will do before the end of my visit
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, it was a very niche thing. a sort soviet retro future exhibit that somehow survived through the 90s. i don't quite remember what else was there, plasma globes, various magnet accentuated magnetic liquids, that sort of stuff
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, but unlike , say, egyptian mult, barrett doesn't have the appeal of simplicity or obvious correctness.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713800 << one of the appeals of VDNH back in the day was a tucked-in-the-corner collection of Denisyuk holograms. so i went there again, place is almost a shell at this point, BUT one of the buildings was taken over by polytechnical museum, not only did they make a rather nifty science (without quotes!) museum but they also preserved all those old holograms. i suspect i wasn't the only one who loved ☝︎
mircea_popescu: eg, item indeed dun exist but no obvious reason why it couldn't be made.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:06 asciilifeform: ideallly. i don't have a fixedtime reciprocal finder.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713551 << i don't think his notion is without merit, incidentally. there may be something there. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is nonsense, but i won't delve into why.
mircea_popescu: also lulzy, in simiular vein, though i wouldn't for a moment call it "capitalist hell". it is pure and simple collapse among the symbols, as typified in teh elevator scene.
mircea_popescu: (no, the present socialism isn't the first to run headfirst into the female brick wall. who could have predictered!)
mircea_popescu: (it didn't help that it was in the torah of the time, as per saint habarnam gospels, "only blockprinted")
asciilifeform: notice that it doesn't walk the bits
mircea_popescu: oh btw, should prolly formalize the function/mechanism thing from yest a bit. so, a function (in the correct, math understanding, a "procedure" in cs lingo is no different, which is why lisp hasn't "procedures") denotes correct results, but does not connote any particular method of obtaining them. this is no good for us, in many military applications, where we must actually specify not merely WHAT is being sought, but also HO
mircea_popescu: i can't say that i know. what complexity is our current item ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know that aerogel ain't a maxwell's demon, lol
asciilifeform: 'want it? gotta do it yerself, corner store won't even dream of it'
mircea_popescu: entirely orthogonal tech stacks ; and wouldn't you know it that the simple man's reaction to perceptible orthogonality is to pick one and pretend the rest dun exist.
trinque: got to take trip(s) to paris, etc, didn't she?
mircea_popescu: heck, they don't wanna fuck them as it is, TODAY! look through the dating sites, two thirds of black female profiles indicate "no black males" in some manner (such as, "no gangstas" or whatever)
mircea_popescu: the proposition that there existed black woman in the time discussed who didn't similarily bask in "omfg, WHITE MAN!!! is scratching me between the legs" is out and out ridiculous anachronism.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 17:00 trinque: such racism, to assume that sally hemings couldn't possibly have *liked* jefferson.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where i live one still sees these ~exclusively in the warm months, driven by hobbyists -- rather than commuters who can't afford petrol for a 4cyl
BingoBoingo: Yeah, it didn't take. through Mitsubishi years they did economy thing with lonely Viper and Neon SRT-4 being only power offerings that weren't trucks
mircea_popescu: i thought they were trying for the economy thing. didn't take huh.
asciilifeform: evidently lizard gosplan doesn't expect infinite continuation of this
mircea_popescu: you can't lose the teenaged sluts, with your head.
mircea_popescu: they also didn't have eg "total make-over" shows and so on.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713462 << i suspect back before the "end of the world" people had a firm dislike for "life changing prizes". because hadn't experienced disruption in the proper sense ; and understood the lottery winner problems. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and it doesn't afaik exist anywhere to crib.
asciilifeform: ideallly. i don't have a fixedtime reciprocal finder. ☟︎
apeloyee: can't extract a reduced-length number?
asciilifeform: now this isn't even all. how the fuck do you intend to calculate the reciprocal WITHOUT DOING THE SAME DIVISION I'M DOING NOW
asciilifeform: this is intentional and isn't going to change.
shinohai: Wait, slaves aren't produce?
trinque: such racism, to assume that sally hemings couldn't possibly have *liked* jefferson. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713470 << ~organ~ tech, phf, organ. 88 keyz ain't a comp kbd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i specifically refuse'em because NOT ORTHOGONAL, they don't belong as part of a general-purpose numbertheoretical minimal 'crypto lego set'.
asciilifeform: incidentally in case it weren't obvious, much bloatier rsatrons than the one contemplated in ffa, fit in asciilifeform's head -- e.g. montgomery mult, barrett, various war crimes in that vein
asciilifeform: and moreover i can never be convinced that they ain't lying TO ME
asciilifeform: it does not fit in my head, and i am not convinced that the folx who claim that it fits into theirs, ain't lying
asciilifeform: which is why we ain't using it.
asciilifeform: if he ain't in l1, ignore, for starters.
mircea_popescu: your sane solution won't be the fastest.
mircea_popescu: and consequently won't be forthcoming.
asciilifeform: which resembles yours, and doesn't win anything in our case.
mircea_popescu: so in the end what was it, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-12#1713104 or http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-12#1713161 ? cuz i don't expect it can be both dubious and well known at the same time. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: besides, you won't make one, you'll make say 100. because fuck it.
ben_vulpes: point stands, don't use decorative materials for the precision tracks
mircea_popescu: anyway, doesn't mix well with other metals is its main thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform silver dun tarnish lol, there's such a thing as proper silver. and it has low melting point and easy to work and it doesn't grow fungi.
asciilifeform: it requires a constant-time gcd, however, to be constant-time. ( and has a problem same as above in that it takes much MORE time than naive algo if you don't reuse modulus forever )
mircea_popescu: well i have nfi, haven't profiled the thing.
mircea_popescu: you don';t have to index.
mircea_popescu: it's not automatically bad just for being a list ; you don't have to pare it down.
asciilifeform: but aside from this , it isn't clear to me that it saves any cycles
mircea_popescu: you don't do that.
asciilifeform: ( i promise i have nfi how to do it. just like i don't know how to make 2+2=5 )
asciilifeform: what we do not have -- and don't have because it doesn't actually work -- is the karatsuba cut for modular mult.
mircea_popescu: good for you ; but your problem isn't what you presented it as being.
asciilifeform: suggest something that doesn't reduce to my existing algo ?
mircea_popescu: this approach of "i have a girlfriend and i am blind to all else" doesn't work with girlfriends, or anything else.
asciilifeform: 'distributive' means that you can do the above. and you can't.
mircea_popescu: so you won't have many passes of it. just as many as elements in list at the most.
asciilifeform: we can't 'if'
asciilifeform: if you could do this, you'd save much moar than 10% , because wouldn't have division anywhere
asciilifeform: it ain't constanttimespace.
asciilifeform: that ain't constantspacetime
mircea_popescu: rothbart you're perhaps too new to know this, but the PREVIOUS time there was "miner consensus" it turned out the miners that "voted" and "supermajority" didn't give the slightest shit about the whole thing, and did NOT actually implement what they were misrepresented as having supported.
mircea_popescu: rothbart they don't need to do anything.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, i don't mind making money out of mit's "blockchain of the future", like i didn't mind fleecing "ripple" or cashing btc crash. free bitcoin will continue for as long as usg can draw breath, i'm not against. let them lose what they can't invest.
rothbart: wouldn't he have to redo all that PoW since segwit wen't active on his fork?
rothbart: I've been trying to grok the segwit "theft" incentive - as the bounty grows, so does the PoW defending it - doesn't this keep the segwit outputs safe? ☟︎
rothbart: asciilifeform - haven't even started syncing it yet - still processing the plan in light of your advice (ie. sweeping via trb first)
rothbart: asciilifeform - cheers. I read the article about the Cardano, but don't see it on NSA site?
asciilifeform: rothbart: it wouldn't hurt
rothbart: I've registered a public key with the bot, but haven't verified it yet (key was generated on GPG4Win) - should I start over from my Linux box, with a new public key?
mircea_popescu: but generally wouldn't want to ; fake teeth are not made this way because not really good enough.
mircea_popescu: anyway, only reason dentist doesn't bake you a new dentine layer is the temperature involved ; in a lab you can make arbitrarily large un-enammeled tooth.
mircea_popescu: it's not even so expensive, in today's terms. if only we didn't live among anodyne barbarians and the tech stack all rotten away.
mircea_popescu: (and yes, wood is a plastic is the key to ANOTHER side of "you didn't read up on your art in college, you lose" surprisebox. because yes, wood will do the "Doluble injection cast mold". it was the arab world equivalent of chinese china. look up "mother of pearl"
mircea_popescu: the important categories in this discussion are metals (ie, materials where the electrons don't sit with their atom ; form cloud. these -- always conductive electrically) ; porcelains (or glasses, or ceramics, or how'd you call them) and then plastics (polymerized item).
asciilifeform: if you wouldn't bolt it to a kalash -- it is too brittle.
mircea_popescu: and y'all have to thank bb for mentioning this, because i don't take iron to the wood so to speak.
mircea_popescu: you don't lol. you paint it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't aware your design envelope was going to randomly expand to "i want a wrench droppable kbd now too".
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: is trying to slip into the crack between 'science, indisputable facts!' and 'can't make a sword blade out of ceramic dummy, wrong situation'?
mircea_popescu: facts aren't open to engineering, they're the subjects o' science.
mircea_popescu: we weren't discussing an application ; we were discussing a fact.
ben_vulpes: myeah, dent test don't make so much sense applied to ceramics
asciilifeform: that ain't the problem
asciilifeform: why isn't she here, again