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mircea_popescu: otherwise, none of these exist.
mircea_popescu: if people get "salaries" for doing "work" which have to then be collected back from them - the mcdonald, walmart, windows and britney spears are unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends. do you live in a world where most capital is uselessly distributed to idiots ?
mircea_popescu: (the only solution to the soft-warm comparison is a decent pair of tits)
mircea_popescu: let's get back to your original idea. can you state it ?
mircea_popescu: okay.
mircea_popescu: the point of comparison weould be "pile of scrap metal in the approximate shape of a desktop"
mircea_popescu: still think 500k is an exaggeration ?
mircea_popescu: about 2.5k if it were a pig.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 2500 * 365 * 20 / 4000 * .5
mircea_popescu: ftr, hfcs is 1-200 per 640 lb barrel. it's like sugar, about 4k calories per kg. so your kid costs
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: 2.5k calories a day * 365 * 20 is a decent chunk oif change even in hfcs terms
mircea_popescu: everything. starting with hiring the mother.
mircea_popescu: not so. average cost per kid over 1-18 is about 500k atm. that makes the stable cost quadrillions. computers don't cost that much.
mircea_popescu: in what numbers ?
mircea_popescu: what was that ?
mircea_popescu: your parents decided to have a baby.
mircea_popescu: you were financed the same way
mircea_popescu: because ev is not defined.
mircea_popescu: it does not say "sending 5, or 50 or 500 is "-ev""
mircea_popescu: this is all. it just says "you can't send everyone"
mircea_popescu: but looky : man in space is -ev in the sense that if you make a bill of the required materials, and then divide the stores by that, you come to a number that's < world pop.
mircea_popescu: so set out this thing again ?
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: dude he went away just as it was getting interesting.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229875 << this is pointedly NOT what -ev means. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "all i did all week was write a program to save me one keystroke per month - INCREASE WORKEFICIENCY!1"
mircea_popescu: but this does not speak about the activity of computing, or automating, or process design. it merely speaks of the idiot in question, and his tribe.
mircea_popescu: this, yes, patently -EV.
mircea_popescu: time he spent = 10 to 100x time he saved, not to mention he saves time that's not worth saving in the first place.
mircea_popescu: the way "computer expert" approaches a problem ? first, he sits around imagining a problem that might be. then he comes up with the most theoretically-lovable way to solve a general problem three steps removed from what he imagined. then he proceeds to fail to implement a solution that mostly works.
mircea_popescu: there is a directly obvious place where this is true. the way i approach a problem ? i have someone do it by hand. after enough of this, i have someone else automatize the easy to automatize parts. it grows from there.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229807 << you'll have to explain how you measure the V. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ie, "$lice of all value that will ever exist"
mircea_popescu: chiefly for the reason discussed earlier. there is literally nothing most people can do that's worth paying btc for.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it seems very improbable that arrangement will survive bitcoin. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229784 << this is only a problem of resource distribution. yes, in a world where for incomprehensible reasons every unit of plancton gets disposable money, you get britney spears and reddit. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: see ?
mircea_popescu: sponsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. "
mircea_popescu: "I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customers got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're re
mircea_popescu: i mostly sweat elaborate curse words.
mircea_popescu: heh i guess huh
mircea_popescu: maybe my clueless side.
mircea_popescu: i am somehow unconcerned.
mircea_popescu: fortunately there's very little actual matter consumed in vlsi.
mircea_popescu: the soviets need stalin like i need my nail clippings.
mircea_popescu: whosoever.
mircea_popescu: the state, bulbously putrescent as it is, does not get to propose the false dichotomy - "us or nothing"
mircea_popescu: there WILL be alternative.
mircea_popescu: that was broadly my point, that the infantile "usg closes down so we're closing this park, and you'll be sorry!11" dies right here.
mircea_popescu: on "who is going to do X thing - nobody", no.
mircea_popescu: on civilisation scale, yes.
mircea_popescu: well sure, it didn't save franz josef either. wtf.
mircea_popescu: this aside, if you will.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: can start with dead babies, enough c in there.
mircea_popescu: synthetic means, synthetic.
mircea_popescu: moving on to uranium -> hfcs.
mircea_popescu: used to be petrol -> corned beef.
mircea_popescu: no petrol involved at any point. straight uranium.
mircea_popescu: lasts forever. the way they grow pot is the way we'llgrow food in short order.
mircea_popescu: today, if you're not doing that you're doing what, twitter ?
mircea_popescu: this was true then.
mircea_popescu: re the thermodynamics : people live and then die. their time is fundamentally free. no thermodynamics applies here.
mircea_popescu: i see.
mircea_popescu: so it never actually provided an ysort of advantage, but merely the promise of perhaps one day.
mircea_popescu: on the ethnic filter point, a) it was not actulaly the case historically (new york by ww1 was just about getting to the point of advancement) ; b) it'sjust the lazy man's approach to things. doesn't work, either.
mircea_popescu: so it never attracted thinking people ?
mircea_popescu: universal standard library
mircea_popescu: why would it not form, if useful ? why would it be sought, if not useful ?
mircea_popescu: i don't get the usl part.
mircea_popescu: hehe
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, im done ruining your fun, bbl.
mircea_popescu: i have a dog that can slobber better than any race horse :D
mircea_popescu: but not cheaper.
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: incidentally, one could prolly make a killing in the north america this way. just - offer patronage to the various people who got paper to cut. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you need like a patron over there.
mircea_popescu: generally it's quite lucrative.
mircea_popescu: depends. if it is the place sucks.
mircea_popescu: which means, i'll spend fifty, because hey, it keeps one or more lawyers owing me for the bread i provided them
mircea_popescu: if they lose they pay, right ?
mircea_popescu: except no, you don't.
mircea_popescu: and this "you made me do" bs is for tired mothers.
mircea_popescu: you don't claim "that you don't". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: "by refusing to suck my cock you waive your right to fart" < formally invalid.
mircea_popescu: "by sucking my cock you waive your right to complain about its girth" < formally valid law.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no such thing. you can't waive by refusal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229626 << at -ev? << the concept of ev does not apply in that context. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: orly.
mircea_popescu: "pictures - you take, $10 each ; of you - free"
mircea_popescu: "guided tour, naked - $50. add $1000 per oz of clothes. shoes $500 flat fee."
mircea_popescu: you should charge.
mircea_popescu: the soviet thing ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck is that.
mircea_popescu: not that the presence of "official committees" isn't a sign that the thing's dead/dying.
mircea_popescu: if not advantage, why is it even here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "not inhabited" part holds its own mystery. did it provide an edge to users ? then, how come not used - is it the current castration of "thinking" folk that prevented them from deplyoing it ? something else ? ☟︎