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asciilifeform: it'll turn out to suck tho if it turns out that , say, if you know 3bits of what went into a keccakization, you now know 33 of its oaepization, or the like. i dun know a proof that ~not~ this, if that makes sense
BingoBoingo: Thankfully Qntra has a backup button, but with mp-wp I gotta dogfood it, because it is what I will be asked about
BingoBoingo: I have not. My understanding of how it worked was it sat in a failry consistent RAM footprint as a running process and played goalie shoving the blog to php-fpm
asciilifeform: ( seems , at least by my lights, uncharacteristically hungry... does it really take a coupla MB of working ram , per GET , to serve up a blog ? )
BingoBoingo: The failure mode under stress was an attractor to lighttpd, but... configuring it is a pain
asciilifeform: esp. a wwwtronic thing, where there is a readily-available graceful failure mode ( make connector wait a few sec for a free slot )
asciilifeform: erry proggy should at the very least take a param for max ram guzzle
BingoBoingo: Consider Phuctor is a sorta bespoke thing. DB software architect can't antipate a Phuctor and how its filled. On the other hand most mysql installs power wordpress.
BingoBoingo: Changing the storage engine has resulted in a more than 10x reduction in RAM used
asciilifeform: he did pick it for a logical reason, but i cannot currently recall what it was ( prolly detailed in l0gz )
asciilifeform: btw for many yrs i've searched for the obvious simple gadget, a y-shaped thing that'd turn 2 or moar usb sticks into an iron raid. but still not found, dun seem like anybody ever made.
asciilifeform: i was almost gonna say 'we're the first to put arm64 in a dc rack' but then recalled that jurov, years ago, saw such a thing somewhere
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if we ever build a rk-like board from the ground up, i'ma give it at least mirror raid. but presently afaik no such thing can be had.
asciilifeform: also folx, pleeez make backups! i should not even have to remind. there is not such a thing known presently as an immortal disk.
BingoBoingo: <lobbes> "el incendio anual" heh << Mind that before becoming a mall in a more expensive neighborhood than the Datacenter's, a good chunk of the present legislature or their parents were locked up there for being commie scum
trinque: BingoBoingo: should I null-route your feed for a bit?
BingoBoingo: In local news, Prison Mall had a fire. Apparently happens on a roughly annual basis https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/incendio-en-shopping-punta-carretas-obligar-interrupcion-del-transito--20181114983
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6, re comment, it seems it got lost, I could not find it anywhere so not in queue nor anything << not a problem at all. we've resolved it anyhow. thanks for looking.
asciilifeform: ideal algo imho would carry at least 5 bit of entropy for erry bit of payload, and in such a way that all bits are 0/1 with exactly 0.5 prob.; and such that flipping one bit of ciphertext flips at least 1/2 of the output bits.
diana_coman: meanwhile the oaep got sorted better as part of smg comms really (i.e. only ada calling c, no back and forth dance and that gets rid of a LOT of confusion)
diana_coman: but it might still take a while to get back to it
mod6: thanks for doing all this work diana_coman, I appreciate it. it's long over do for a v'ing. :]
diana_coman: onth I kept the quick guide and updated it to point users to a. use the bloody help of V as it's quite useful as it is! b. ask if they get stuck, wtf
diana_coman: the out of date also refers to the fact that meanwhile V has a broader scope really than trb code
mod6: Anyway, *nod* looks good. I'll try to test it one of these days when I have a spare minute.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872191 << Totall get it that you don't want to maintain the user docs, I do disagree that they were are out date tho. I did a diff between them from the 99994K and 99993K versions and I did update it for the Feb release. ☝︎
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872187 << no worries, I tried to post a comment on your blog post from the train, it may have not went through. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i meant diana_coman ah i see, you redid the whole tree, that was a patch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh i see, you redid the whole tree, that was a patch
asciilifeform: and 'how not to crypto', pretty good illustration of the tension between 'machine proofs' and 'fits in head' (author resolved wholly in favour of the former and took a tall shit on the latter)
diana_coman: so to keep this fully aligned, I'll regrind the last 2 patches so that the docs changes are carried over as well; as a result: genesis = http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20170317.tar.gz; 1st patch => http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz; 2nd patch => using vtools & keccak instead of sha
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 00:20 mod6: 2) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872126 << diana_coman I tried to leave you a note on your blog. But seems that you've based the genesis off of my vtron version 99994K, but there is a newer version: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig Which is denoted as version 99993K.
diana_coman: fwiw the keccak-version of v (i.e. pressing the tree I published all the way to its leaf) IS the corrected one re pressing order ; later today I'll do a diff with precisely the versions mod6 has at http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/ but going by version number I really don't see what "old version" are you saying
BingoBoingo: The pain comes in settin MyIASM as a default without doing the instictive right appearing thing which is disable Innodb completely.
BingoBoingo: Finding seems to be Innodb is a poor default
BingoBoingo: Anyways: Blog update - I think I've found a Rockchip friendlier mysql config. Not expanding to eat all the RAM at the moment. Compiling the rest of the moving parts.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 00:18 mod6: 1) My toaster has a cancel button
mircea_popescu: ahh, but what a productive monday this has been!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744472 << heh. aaanyway, it's not that g_l had necessarily a bad grasp of priors, but he did take them to strange, sometimes contorted conclusions. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ♖<< is this a chess piece (rook) ? ☟︎
mod6: ah yeah (0x05), it is a significant change from all previous releases of my vtron.
mod6: You may not want the good, and discussed changes in version 99993K. Here's a list of the changes between version 99994K and 99993K in the ML posting: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-February/000290.html
mod6: 2) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872126 << diana_coman I tried to leave you a note on your blog. But seems that you've based the genesis off of my vtron version 99994K, but there is a newer version: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig Which is denoted as version 99993K. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: 1) My toaster has a cancel button ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: confirmed, worx, a++++
asciilifeform: yea took me a min
asciilifeform: '20 phunphakts didja know on reddit! there was a mad d00d, tried to write a working os, despite not working at microshit or even having codeofconduct..' i picture.
phf: there's an entire archive.org of his stuff apparently. he's a hipster programmer celebrity though
asciilifeform: iirc thing needs a proper vesa 2.0 vga card, so this makes sense.
phf: i had a 300mhz amd that i brought from russia when i moved here in the 90s, but it finally gave out couple of years ago. i suspect booting templeos was one of the last things i did with it..
phf: asciilifeform: i've booted templeos on a real hardware
asciilifeform: 'FACTORS THAT AFFECT THE APPEARANCE OF A DRESS AND MAKES IT LOOK SPECIAL' etc etc
asciilifeform: ( closest thing north amer ever produced to a poet, imho )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 16:44 asciilifeform: even on asciilifeform's home planet, good chunk of marriages were 'soft-arranged' -- i.e. 'comrade colonel, you have a bachelor son, i have a ripe daughter' 'comrade lt colonel, let's box'em in a room, wainot'
mircea_popescu: lumea s-a schimbat!!!
mircea_popescu: noo, didn't estlos make a lisp v ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 21:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871787 << afaik his lisptron works to spec, and ~only exists~ because everyone harped poetic about how great lisp "would be", only to predictably return to more brackish "we use python" once someone actually made something that'd need such a wonder as the inexistent lisp machine.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872055 << the major issue with using sbcl as a scripting lang in unixland is the 3-5sec (depending on iron) revv-up time ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871787 << afaik his lisptron works to spec, and ~only exists~ because everyone harped poetic about how great lisp "would be", only to predictably return to more brackish "we use python" once someone actually made something that'd need such a wonder as the inexistent lisp machine. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 14:43 phf: asciilifeform: i've posted a v.pl patch http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867871 ( archived http://archive.is/ZJUMM ), unfortunately since v.pl doesn't have its own vtree, doing it properly requires a bunch of extra work
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871781 << one of you, diana_coman phf mod6 asciilifeform do me a favour and properly genesisize v.pl huh! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: is it worse to fail in your attempt to unify all germany around you rather than "die Kais’rin hat sich mit dem Franzosen alliiert" austrian schmucks ? or to succed only to fail a few short decades later, twice, and over the fucking failure of your admiral to BRAVERY ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> personally asciilifeform is fascinated by modern cn and wtf makes it tick << The Japs next door grew up faster than the Chinese language could protect them for a few decades. Eventually homeostatis returned because it turned out Japan was not a Prussia of Asia.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 14:46 mircea_popescu: buildings, however, are a very opposite attempt : the dismal resistance of air (and see also un prophete discussion of winds here) and the minimal and well understood constraint of gravity allow enough free space for design to be a thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 20:08 spyked: LordMPofTMSR, I had no idea. and looking for mihaita dragomirescu, all I found was news items a la http://archive.is/ojKnE and other cancans. if ye know for a fact this is not made-up scandal, then I believe, but otherwise... eh.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> just a bunch of inept niggers. ran away from missouri century ago, recreated missouri in michigan. << Yeah, chattle followed cattle
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> chicago is a sort of indiana. there is no other market. << It grew as a sorta suburb of Texas/Kansas/etcetera as they place they sent their standing cattle to get canned for sale and consumption out east.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunno whether the shoe fits tho, afaik china is very much a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871815 kind of affair ☝︎
asciilifeform: they junkyardwars'd together a working ottoman-style org system ought of sumthing like '80s su -- sorta like we trb from prb etc
asciilifeform: ( i think of chicago as a kind of massive open air бомжатник , from own experiences there )
mircea_popescu: just a bunch of inept niggers. ran away from missouri century ago, recreated missouri in michigan.
mircea_popescu: chicago is a sort of indiana. there is no other market.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 17:05 asciilifeform: incidentally, unmanned 'dc in flat' is imho a potential useful application for ciphered/zeroized-on-disturbance hdd item discussed some wks ago.
asciilifeform: what i can't wrap my head around is why nobody's mass-produced a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1871212 and put an end to the whole 'digital evidence' 'rule of law' pretense circus ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i fucking hope there's a war already.
asciilifeform: 'Likewise, the moment Macron finished his speech, up popped a Microsoft blog post heralding the speech as a "an important step toward peace and security in the digital world."'
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 14:25 asciilifeform: so a proper asmification potentially yields 5-10x speedup 'for phree' , all else being equal
asciilifeform: imho at&t asm syntax is a fucking plague
mircea_popescu: cuz you can fucking tell, a little lantern with mirrors in a case.
mircea_popescu: and, amusingly, everyone's now a "designer", that design's so fucking dead... do you ever look at classical soviet oh of courese you do, the buran discussion right ? that item had a line to it, and you can tell from a glance it was made by humans.
mircea_popescu: the fucking line. pen on a paper.
asciilifeform: ( to be fair, not only zamac in this story, but peculiarity of gringostani politics where 'pre-ban' xyz is a thing )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform ~decade ago went to a traditional american festivity, gigantic flea market where small arms bought and sold in open air. found it interesting that the most valuable wares were not even antiques in the usual sense, of century+, but 1970s-80s : apparently the 'peak' of the tech, modern calibers and 0 zamac.
mircea_popescu: funnily enough, a) he thought he had found "the west indies" and b) he landed on some skirting islands, never found mainland.
mircea_popescu: an obscure man named something or the other sorta-landed on the shore of crypto a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as an incorrect line -- proven by the fact that the overwhelmingly vast majority of them are.
mircea_popescu: because i get it, toyota "new from factory", but it's a stupid fucking factory i want little do to with.
mircea_popescu: so in a very specific, and very purple and meaty sense, the moronic lartinos are way the fuck ahead of the moronic anglos.
mircea_popescu: change, objective and unyielding, of the wheel coming cycle and the up being now down and the shoe on the other foot, "the elders" sat and thought for a half second and decided between boys and walls they'd rather have the walls.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole fucking point of http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ (especially as coupled with http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/ ) is that the world has substantially changed, and there is ~no further win~ to be had from cityism, and a WHOLE lot of cost to be eaten. which is ~the fucking point~ of http://trilema.com/2017/the-world-has-changed/ : given the
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you recall ancient trilema piece , about some derp working in (iirc) google, where you had 'if industry were a rifle, he'd be the fouling on the barrel' ?
mircea_popescu: it's a matter of columnae lucum, whereby ~THIS~, and this and only this and this only is the epitome, and everyone around is closer or further to that epitome, and at the outskirts it becomes unclear if there's even a relation at all or not.
mircea_popescu: (hey, you can't prove it isn't a party!!!) and other such http://trilema.com/2011/voi-ce-ati-facut-in-viata-asta-ba/#selection-119.375-119.430 nonsense.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but the important point can't be overstated enough. it's not a matter of terra-ad-limine, whereby the county is from this limit to that limit to that other limit, and as long as you're not past the limits therefore you're inside and thereby anjie is "in tech" (hey, you can't prove she's out, right ? therefore she;s in ?) and also thereby http://trilema.com/2012/generatia-fara/#selection-145.61-145.72 stands as a party
asciilifeform: i suspect that a good chunk of the 'organizational win' from cityism can be cut away from the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871872 , to interesting result ☝︎
asciilifeform: selective tech adoption is imho a fascinating thing. even the amerinds, for all their miswired heads, picked up horse and rifle and carried on 300+ yrs past their expiration date. ( picture if they had also had radio ! )
mircea_popescu: hardware, amirite ? what's a bit, what's a byte.
asciilifeform: i suspect - if it exists - you'd need a quite long drill to get to it
mircea_popescu: and that's yet another fine example, see ? french men go to louisiana, produce us south a century later. dutch men go to transvaal, produce south africa a century later.
asciilifeform: i do suspect that http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871847 was 'admiration from a distance' rather than factual tho. sorta like marie antoinette's milkmaid career. ☝︎