asciilifeform: ( the funny bit, is that of course had to fucking relearn , nobody in gringolandia actually speaks the lang that asciilifeform was taught... )
asciilifeform had nfi as 5yo, but his folx's plot to move , incl. destination, was already in motion then
asciilifeform: it's what we had in grade school. but asciilifeform's folx decided that was rubbish, took him to old woman with buncha aquariums in her flat, who actually spoke the lang somehow
asciilifeform: sounds like typical orc lang instructor
asciilifeform as 5yo was already sweating, filling exercise boox
asciilifeform: it's esp frustrating to watch when you were beaten with sticks to learn the king's english for no particularly good reason
asciilifeform: in e.g. pravd^H^H^Hwapo, 'times', etc, will find malapropisms on front pg, and outright line noise on nth pg
asciilifeform: funny how all that 19th c. sweat put into making engl look like a human lang, with standard typography etc, more or less evaporated in <20y span
asciilifeform: innermost circle of quasiliteracy hell, i suspect, is when even mispelling not consistent
asciilifeform: prolly cuz the rng picked that one letter to drop this time around
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the temps/voltages thrd is re 'uy1' , the collective www box yea
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma include a simple machine-readable ambient thermometer/hygrometer in the cargo, for good measure
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the rk case is about 1.5 metre away
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: battery consistently in mid-60s ( all-time high 68 ), cpu - 50s
asciilifeform: hm i thought they could only grow where a similarly-porcine mother lives as 'office plankton' and prevents contact w/ reality
asciilifeform: i had nfi the species is found as far south as mircea_popescustan
asciilifeform: aha. and there aint a cure, any moar than for hydrocephalia. the ideal life outcome for these, is 'institutional' , the kind with shock collar, detonguing, short leash, i suspect.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm not even convinced there's an 'i' in that there crankcase that is capable of actually 'wanting' sumthing.
asciilifeform: i gotta take off hat to mircea_popescu's strong stomach, i can't picture fucking these things even with ball gag. would almost rather juggle neutron reflectors.
asciilifeform: re 'somebody asked', i suspect that the correct physical model is that old toy ( do they still make'em ? ) with plastic phonograph roll inside, where you pull string and it 'speaks'
asciilifeform: i can't resist to ask, is this one sui generis or is 'financial domination' actual button on the fatlife dashboard thing nao.
asciilifeform: 'However I’m very into Financial Domination and paying me is the only way' << lol!!
asciilifeform: as i understand, usg dept. of wunderwaffen hasn't given'em robo-cranes yet, at that pt
asciilifeform was thinking of this just this morning, while varnishing the 50kv cabling on the xray box
asciilifeform: i dun consider slotin et al to be shining examples to follow, but will also point out , that errybody dies eventually, and personally would rather chance to eat 100kV than to die of boredom sitting in a chair kanzure-style.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was cured of this by chem instructor, who showed palm where glass pipe went clean through it when he was a lad
asciilifeform: ( i suspect that current-day 'millenial' derps would shit their pants if they saw folx actually at work and the things that are done even nao )
asciilifeform: even as late as '90s lab folx had to be beaten with a stick to get'em to stop mouth-pipetting, etc
asciilifeform: eh life was cheap, electricians routinely measured voltage with wet finger etc.
asciilifeform: extreme case imho. but illustrative of principle.
asciilifeform: on a few occasions i had to go to where it was done. power supply cable as thick as my thigh.
asciilifeform: ( btw does mircea_popescu have a theory re why people become crystallographers ? it's almost 100% young chix, and they -- even with modern shielding and safety derpisms -- never live particularly long. multi-MeV xray cannon in yer face... )
asciilifeform: sorta what keeps the old-fashioned crystallography people in biz.
asciilifeform: ( on top of this, the actual meat being modelled is not a rigid object, it has substantially variant geometry depending on temperature and properties of medium, e.g. ph )
asciilifeform: problem is that you want flex in the bonds ( to model strain, van der waals, etc ) but you dun want it to sag.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: watson & co tried this.
asciilifeform: i had a 30k$ sgi 3d viewer thing, worked ok ( 1 part 50kg crt, other part went on yer head. ) point is that nao you can get ~same thing for 100. not that there's much in the way of people who are still doing any of this afaik.☟︎
asciilifeform: ( consider, grunting through each atom, serially )
asciilifeform: von neumann comp spectacularly retarded for the app
asciilifeform: imho it's a wide green field for hypothetical resurrection of ~analogue comp~
asciilifeform: i used to do this for a living, tho. ( and no it aint a great biz to be in, the models just barely work )
asciilifeform: there's a practical limit to anyffin.
asciilifeform: mno. when you have 10,000 sticks, thing sags under gravity, in very 'unphysical' way re the item being modelled.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are great, but when yer doing a protein gets expensive and bit unwieldy ( picture room-sized stick model )
asciilifeform as a boy built the classic toy boat from tin can and soldered ballpoint pen tune (the iron kind), add a camp stove pellet and a++ 'pulse jet'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, decent quality konsoomer '3d visor' appeared , i got one as a gift not long ago. but i dun do chemical models any moar, and so no constructive use for it any moar
asciilifeform: ( they offer a 50 $ dev kit, compleete with cd fulla winblowz shitware )
asciilifeform: i simply can't bring myself to buy any to test, i dun have any pigs that need autoclassifying
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, neural net, the thing that classifies pig as 'porn' etc. i'm even willing to believe that the chip worx to spec. not magic by any means, 1970s tech sitting on modern ic
asciilifeform: supposedly fits trainable nn, coupla 10k units worth.
asciilifeform: intel for instance sells 1 , for about 20bux in qty. what is actually on the die , i have nfi, and it only worx with their oddball closed compiler thing.
asciilifeform: ( and again will note, i haven't tried the various irons, may well be snake oils. )
asciilifeform: nah see, they want face reader in pnoje, toilet, ballpoint pen, etc. where (despite mighty effort) x86 dun go.
asciilifeform: (e.g. the recent fad for 'face recognizer' even revived 1980s item, neural network processor. i haven't personally tried'em for anyffin , of yet )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's alive, in a sense (various image processing junk) but not sumthing you'd want anyffin to do with i suspect
asciilifeform: the algo for this, i described coupla yrs ago here.
