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a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 13:21 mircea_popescu: lol that salon piece was pretty lulzy. o noes, the thin but vocal layer of unemployed and unemployable "independent women" is getting cut out of politics too, after being cut out of public discourse and the money pie ?!?!?!?!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 14:11 mircea_popescu: yesterday i banned his B block, meaning that instead of getting back the 130ish bytes per request ("please stop beingt stupid" or somesuch) he's now getting a 404. trilema delivers soft 404s, in the sense of loading up an article anyway. idiot's burned half a terrabyte since, which he hopefully has to pay for. because if he does, his entire (large, holy shit) operation is now under water. dun dun dun.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647818 << ~nobody who does this sort of thing, ever pays for ~anything. certainly not for bandwidth. ( and supposing he did -- what's a TB cost at market rate ? fiddybux ? ) ☝︎
shinohai: Nice crow pic .... I've always had a soft spot for them, they are actually quite smart.
shinohai: Trolling that good is indeed an art.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/tuesday-medley/ << Trilema - Tuesday Medley
mircea_popescu: yesterday i banned his B block, meaning that instead of getting back the 130ish bytes per request ("please stop beingt stupid" or somesuch) he's now getting a 404. trilema delivers soft 404s, in the sense of loading up an article anyway. idiot's burned half a terrabyte since, which he hopefully has to pay for. because if he does, his entire (large, holy shit) operation is now under water. dun dun dun. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, some dork using a variety of 104.192.3. ips has been hitting trilema (POST to xmlrpc.php, of course) for what, six months now ? total fucking tards, do 10 requests per second for hundreds of days straight with no results whatsoever and keep at it.
asciilifeform: (which means, pure rsa, no orc glyphs, no catastrophic malformed packet prior to modulus, etc)
asciilifeform: because phuctor's includes only such keys as were successfully eaten by the parser
asciilifeform: mats: you might want the raw sks set rather than mine then
mats: looking to see just how much diddling is going on here
mats: asciilifeform: wot analysis and identifying weirdness that pgp will accept but ordinarily silently discard some aspect (wrappers i've looked at don't use verbose flag during import) , ie, a subkey binding like the hpa key
asciilifeform: mats: what are you thinking of doing ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 13:18 mats: asciilifeform: ok thanks for the heads up. can i get a dump of fingerprints from phuctor? i will crawl sks instead
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647801 << i'ma publish another db dump later today, you can use that . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: holy shit what will the world do without the opinions of odonnel & her ilk!!11
mircea_popescu: lol that salon piece was pretty lulzy. o noes, the thin but vocal layer of unemployed and unemployable "independent women" is getting cut out of politics too, after being cut out of public discourse and the money pie ?!?!?!?! ☟︎
mats: asciilifeform: ok thanks for the heads up. can i get a dump of fingerprints from phuctor? i will crawl sks instead ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trying to knock young men down ain't gonna do jack for propping up unmen.
mircea_popescu: no, this is ye olde "pencildick is untermensch" thread.
shinohai add "Macaque training camps" to the list of necessary items .....
asciilifeform: this is ye olde 'pirate is ubermensch' thread again, ainnit.
asciilifeform: then again, band of macaques could probably rob a train of disarmed, 'respectable' office plankton, with 0 effort
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647781 << eh, pedo's just chasing headlines for the next "wikipedia is free and no advertising" advertising drive. ☝︎
mircea_popescu would much prefer a dozen or two usian kids who are willing to commandeer bart trains instead of ten or twenty thousand sillycon valley drones.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647776 << can anyone invite them here ? they're evidently in need of a little guidance. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: after being defeated in the middle east pentagon actually figures it'll just move ?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha, don't tell me new korea war
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/UfvDj >> 'Entire U.S. Senate to go to White House for North Korea briefing'
asciilifeform: it resembles trb 'wires' .
a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 04:28 mats: before i install sks and figure out how to wrangle bdb - someone have a dump of ascii armored pub keys?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647772 << i tried this, wasted a great deal of time. you can't get an sks dump by running sks. ☝︎
mats: before i install sks and figure out how to wrangle bdb - someone have a dump of ascii armored pub keys? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: pantsuits continue thrashing https://archive.is/VJKNF
mod6: nevermind building numbers or whatever, just go north three screens through the lost woods, west one screen, north one screen, then burn the 3rd bush from the right to find the entrance.
mod6: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/fuckgoats-unboxing-1.jpg << this addressing "scheme" is quite lulzy
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/items-from-my-newspaper/ << Trilema - Items from my newspaper
mircea_popescu: o noes, the shithead's ploy failed ?!
mircea_popescu: phf as a side point, do you know anyone totally into death methal with a bmi under 30 ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda typical californy nonsense, really.
phf: one of those by the books 90s хакер но НЕ путайте с крекер, потому что хакер изначально blah blah blah people. i thought they all died out
phf: asciilifeform: you'll find this amusing, http://www.nncpgo.org. a very odd mixture of good (xdr for serialization, modeled after uucp) and bad ideas (written in go to begin with). but written by a one man cypherpunk, http://www.stargrave.org a stereotypical ru programmer, really into RMS, copyleft, and death metal. guy also wrote http://www.govpn.info and http://www.cypherpunks.ru/gogost/ (a GOST!! implementation in go). former FIDO node. what a c
ben_vulpes: why bother to get in bed with the actual power structure when you can just proclaim yourself first biggest best and disrupt them from the outside
ben_vulpes: perhaps some day i shall relate the saga of the stillborn "PICOC", or "Portland Independent Chamber of Commerce" or "Californians Attempting to Carve Themselves a Slice of Relevancy by Advertising Their Seriously Cutting-Edge Aid to the Poor Programs"
phf: yeap, i missed the "tech solidarity" thing so i was surprised by the strong "march for science!1" angle, and yes also regulate.
Framedragger: wonder if that's what you meant, but will see. sigh
Framedragger: phf: will read later but i'm getting lots of "regulate, regulate, regulate!" vibe. also possibly too much mindrot from his recent escapades to save tech world from trump ('tech solidarity')
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/a-man-and-a-woman/ << Trilema - A man and a woman...
mod6: (now that this run will also show db read wait as well)
mod6: shinohai: sure will do. it's just the eatblock test. once it's complete, i'll re-run all of the charts & metrics
phf: new talk from idlewords, this one's a miss. if you start reading it, and wonder if it gets better: it gets worse. http://idlewords.com/talks/build_a_better_monster.htm
mod6: Still doing more fg tests.
mod6: In other news, my eatblock re-test is at 433K+ & into blk0042; not much more to go there...
jhvh1: mod6: The operation succeeded.
mod6: !~later tell pete_dushenski Hey, let's take a look at that when you have a minute tonight. Salud!
mircea_popescu: portrait of the artist as a young trotsky
Framedragger: i will also use this occasion to comment on the fact that i managed to almost spill tea when opening trilema.com and seeing the intense gaze of mp in photo breaking 4th wall
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: s/to due/due to/
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/04/echos-of-the-great-again-france-pits-moderate-populist-against-hard-left-socialist-in-general-election/ << Qntra - Echos Of The Great Again: France Pits Moderate Populist Against Hard Left Socialist In General Election
mircea_popescu: (they are passive-agressively yakking of "Corruption", of course, which is a major heading in the wikitardia entry on thailand but not, say, the us, or uk, or any other actually corrupt shitholes.)
mircea_popescu: somehow very gingerly unmentioned in the list of rice-clinton successes.
mircea_popescu: usg tried agent orange, thing went poorly, reached some heights of lulz ("the government is completely functional except it is meeting in a secret location" while usg.protestors were overrunning abandoned airport terminals etc cca 2012) and then military org took over in 2014 and that's that for nato-istan in thailand.
mircea_popescu: btw, did we do thailand ?
asciilifeform: however i'm just about as certain that it is self-contradictory, as that, e.g., p!=np.
asciilifeform: i don't have a rigorous proof. ( though -- would much like to. )
mircea_popescu: though as alf well points out last we had this, it may well be actually self-contradictory, this concept.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the thing here is that the concept, if not the particular implementation, is actually very interesting.
Framedragger: yeah, good to note, k.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-09 14:10 mircea_popescu: hey fluffypony do you plan to eventually sell the monero idea here once it reaches some sort of maturity or do you just plan to wait indefinitely for b-a to figure it out ?
mircea_popescu: specifically http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-09#823434 came after intel completed internal review of the thing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 13:53 mircea_popescu: this was discussed in developer meetings cca michelangelo. what of it ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: fair enough, but how are 'private discussions' in this context (plagiarism allegation) any different from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637638 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-24 18:55 asciilifeform: Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422836 << orig. thread with asciilifeform vs author of subj
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-24#1647706 << since we're on it, re the dating, i'll attest that while this may have been first publication, it was certainly discussed privately for 6-12 months prior. ☝︎
Framedragger: ah, ty!
asciilifeform: Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422836 << orig. thread with asciilifeform vs author of subj ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think he's trying to save on reading.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 17:29 asciilifeform: davout: 'ring signatures' are not the promised 'invisibility cloak', but more of a smoke grenade.
Framedragger: re. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1532069 there was nothing beyond ~= "is snakeoil" but i do recall more particular points being addressed some time before or after, so will dig up ☝︎
Framedragger: (but yeah i see what you mean, of course there's a massive difference)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i am deliberately being snarky. please don't spend cpu cycles decoding this remark
asciilifeform: Framedragger: deliberately playing idiot ? or is the difference between a proof (e.g. euclid's) and a conjecture (rsa) not apparent to Framedragger ?
Framedragger: (i'll go right ahead and reserve mine: (1) "euclid was snakeoil!"; and (2) "euler was snakeoil!" << there, now when totient function is broken or rsa is broken or any public key crypto scheme is broken, i'll have free pitchfork credit.) (i joke, i joke)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, i suppose i follow. hrr, ok i'll need to see what in particular was revealed/claimed in #t. besides "it's snake oil!"; i do hope that if/when aes is broken, #t doesn't go out saying "#t said all symmetric crypto is snakeoil! plagiarism!!"
Framedragger: asciilifeform: thanks, i recall, and will try to reread later to see how particular that one was.
mircea_popescu: this you opted to discuss in "objective" terms, which whatever, you then later decided you don't want to discuss. fine. but the question was why doesn't ~he~ so claim.
asciilifeform: that remains, quite irrespective of which particular sig algo were to be used.
asciilifeform: we discusses the ~fundamental~ problem with monero's signature scheme.
mircea_popescu: the original question was, that since you seemed to either imply or embrace the thesis that ~he~ so defaults, you are then at liberty to explain the observed datapoint where he does not.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 17:29 asciilifeform: davout: 'ring signatures' are not the promised 'invisibility cloak', but more of a smoke grenade.
Framedragger: so to construct a counterargument, i'd have to dig into what particular 'novel' stuff monerolink is claiming, and what particular vulns were discussed by monero project prior to this stuff. i can't be bothered, though - just don't care about monero that much - does that mean that i now have to default to "all shit is stolen from #t!"
mircea_popescu: what's political to do with anything ? first guy to describe calculus is first guy to describe calculus.
Framedragger: i'm not the best devil's advocate (nor do i want to be). maybe i can find something better and more concrete, true. it's just.. attribution of this much political clout to #t.. that'd sure be *grand*, and (hopefully) the case in the future. but i just dunno, man.
Framedragger: that particular link is new. because it discusses this very monerolink webshit.
Framedragger: i don't know, are you saying that ideas from #t in regards to what, ringCT vulnerabilities? - have been taken?
mircea_popescu: now i gotta click reddit to see date
Framedragger: you will laugh but there is e.g. /r/Monero , and it discussed unoriginality of above e.g. here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/65dj7u/an_empirical_analysis_of_linkability_in_the/ (while giving references/links to outside stuff)
Framedragger: (it's possibly they did not acknowledge prior research on monero, done by monero itself. that's true. also, ipfs project plagiarised the above just ~now. that's also true.)
mircea_popescu: why, there's other venues discussing the problems with monero ?