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asciilifeform: 'there is like 30 papers each year published in cryptographic literature in which cryptosystems fail exactly because they use small integers...' << ahahaha. what a brazen and deliberate confusion. bringing up rsa coppersmith attack in thread on unrelated cryptosystem.
asciilifeform: 'one cannot safely just ignore the advice of the cryptographic community about the elliptic curves. Not taking these questions seriously is bad, potentially a gross professional misconduct, and one could in theory even go to prison for that on the basis of some existing laws, for example safeguards rule in the US Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act...' << obey or gasenwagen!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform atm im trying to discern whether the recent "secp256k1" talk is simply the defeated nsa trying to find a better reason to fork bitcoin, or these derps actualy have something.
mircea_popescu: i get it, he's a "google scholar" and he has patents. whopee.
nubbins`: dude uses a canon ;/
mircea_popescu: so the guy that wrote that otherwise interesting post : 1) aslo wrote http://blog.bettercrypto.com/?p=640 , a complete misrepresentation of the tim swhatever incident ; 2) runs a blog where you need cookies/js to leave him a comment pointing out that no, he's not extempt from the common requirements of "know what you're talking about before you posture" ; 3) has a contact page where i could donate btc to him (or ltc he
nubbins`: jurov "he hand-illuminated the text which had been printed on his home Canon inkjet printer. He worked with a binder to assemble the resulting book."
asciilifeform: ecdsa curves, 'nothing up my sleeve' constants << think back to the legend with the 'randomly wired' neural net. if secp256k1 (or, another example, aes s-boxes) have sufficiently broad classes of 'weak key' - then all you need to do is find a simple, e.g., sqrt(2), whatever, 'sleeve constant' that impresses the fools.
mircea_popescu: "ERROR: JavaScript and Cookies are required in order to post a comment.
kakobrekla: was there a new ssh vuln found past 24hrs?
assbot: Art Student Hand-Illuminates, Binds a Copy of Tolkien's Silmarillion | MAKE ... ( http://bit.ly/1IC1ZAR )
jurov: nubbins`: http://makezine.com/2011/08/25/art-student-hand-illuminates-binds-a-copy-of-tolkiens-silmarillion/
thestringpuller: I wish my teacher was a porn star teaching the class naked.
thestringpuller: shemlessly opened in the middle of a training session at work
thestringpuller: that probably would have been a better avenue
mircea_popescu: i thought this was ghoing to be a sex joke.
empyex: thestringpuller: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=26 Or use a valid MPSIC!
decimation: http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/AP_Prince_William_Kate_LeBron_bc_141210_4x3_992.jpg
Vexual: thanks for the continue TomServo, i thought this was flappy birds for a minute
danielpbarron: yeah, a pretty cool one too
nubbins`: (that's a channel?!)
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danielpbarron: it was fun while it lasted; I got to lord over the -otc folk a bit
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assbot: Logged on 10-12-2014 06:35:49; ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> well my having not done it doesn't matter as i'm no longer a lord << when did this happen?
cazalla: use to have a bit of a rooibos habit too
cazalla: punkman, fuck that, i has about 10 cups a day
cazalla: i use to drink a lot of sencha until fukashima
punkman sneaks off to make a cup of matcha
cazalla: it was all a dream, i use to read bitcoin magazine..
cazalla: seems a nice man
cazalla: there is a john powell negro on youtube who is into bitcoin from 2013, nfi if it is him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q85mvDbX40
punkman: cazalla: did the normal man have a website?
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/a-normal-man-sentenced-to-48-months-prison/
punkman: decimation: I guess my question above (rephrased) is this: does the secp256k1 algorithm allow for any arbitrary 256 bit vector to be used as a key? Or is there a restricted set that will be more secure than other cases? <- exponent must be smaller than curve order, which is 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364141
ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> well my having not done it doesn't matter as i'm no longer a lord << when did this happen? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Actual dinosaurs impossible. Theme park monsters with vague resemblance to dinosaurs could probably be done in a decade or two if anyone cared to go monsanto on chickens
decimation: if watson wanted to 'go out with a bang' he would find the right young men to found an institute that explicitly is an enemy of his idio-cratic critics
asciilifeform: to 'go out with a bang.'
asciilifeform: on one hand, old man feels old, envies young impotently, etc. on the other - has impulse for 'last hurrah.' word is that e. teller dreamed of presiding over a nukefest until the day he died.
mircea_popescu: you could do a lot better!
mircea_popescu: cast a wide net of tormentors looking for a handout, watch em squirm basically.
asciilifeform had birthday a few days ago
decimation: nah he said he would give it to a few institutions
decimation: asciilifeform: such a development would be welcome, as it would require a press release with names attached
decimation: yes, and they can embiggen themselves to squash any troublesome midgets for a period of time
PeterL: is opec not already a giant?
decimation: opec wants to grow into a giant to squash the midgets in oil
decimation: http://forward.com/articles/154277/jews-stream-back-to-germany/?p=all << "But under German law since May 1949, any Jew — or the descendants of such a Jew — who fled Nazi Germany has the right to become a naturalized German"
Vexual: mircea runs a mercedes
asciilifeform: we have a german ?
mircea_popescu: it just occured to me that b-a is actually the only place on the english web where german, russian,french, spanish etc are not merely spoken,
Vexual: t-shirts are a recent invention
mircea_popescu: whoever did the decors put a shitton of intelligent work in
mircea_popescu: if you're curious to get a feel for the actual flavour of everyday bvack then, it's a good primer.
decimation: http://imgur.com/79DTA7H << "By 2020, current cost trends will lead to an average cost of between $15 billion and $20 billion for a leading-edge fab, according to the report. By 2016, the minimum capital expenditure budget needed to justify the building of a new fab will range from $8 billion to $10 billion for logic, $3.5 billion to $4.5 billion for DRAM and $6 billion to $7 billion for NAND flash, according to the report."
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/79DTA7H << 'no parking' sign outside of that post office. (i don't presently have a photo of the inside.)
mircea_popescu: they run it because they're not smart enough to even figure there's away out of the paper bag, as a principle.
asciilifeform: there's a post office here where i live now, that seems to have been painted with the very same paints
BingoBoingo: It's a fucking candle, piss it out.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were kinda arguing both ends of a candle here :p
mircea_popescu: if a z80 was worth 40 1980 dollars.
decimation: I was pricing a nice wild-caught salmon from alaska, goes for $20 per lb at the cheap rate
mircea_popescu: such a stickler is he :D
mircea_popescu: eh i don't have a lien on that.
TomServo: Consider this: knowledge is always limited and specific, but ignorance is infinite and completely general; knowledge is hard to convey, and travels no faster than the speed of light, but ignorance is instantaneous at all points in the known and unknown universe, including alternate universes and dimensions of whose existence we are entirely ignorant. In short, there is a limit to how much you can
mircea_popescu: it has to be said, again and again, lest anyone forgets : this was designed as a prototype.
decimation: I can see why satoshi avoided using the nist curves, but using ecc in general was probably a bad move
decimation: people have been banging their heads against factoring large primes for a long time
mircea_popescu: but there's also some scienfitic doubt. you really don't know a) how good a "random curve" is n the generla case ; b) you don't really know how to calculate the quality of a good curve.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> Is there a similar procedure for ECDSA? << sort-of. the exponent is ideally chosen randomly as well as the index.
mircea_popescu: <undata> or hell, loot the nearest shoe store for some nikes if that's all you can muster << petty crime is really a very poor plan.
decimation: I guess my question above (rephrased) is this: does the secp256k1 algorithm allow for any arbitrary 256 bit vector to be used as a key? Or is there a restricted set that will be more secure than other cases?
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 01:12:37; asciilifeform: it will be a 'temporary relocation center' to them, even when the shower heads start hissing out the zyklon.
asciilifeform: not to 'evil conspiracy crackpots', that is. to 'reasonable, polite society folks' it will be a mystery until the day they die.
asciilifeform: why the most retarded design decisions << this was never a genuine mystery.
asciilifeform: cache timing attacks are a snore.
asciilifeform: ^ apply for a job today, l0l
asciilifeform: gru was a branch of military intelligence apparatus
decimation took a course in soviet politics years ago and I left more confused about its bureaucracy
decimation: yeah, it was a noob implementation. But it brought up a question in my mind: for RSA, private key and public key are derived from a prime number. Is there a similar procedure for ECDSA?
decimation: seems like a good recipie to greatly restrict the keyspace
decimation: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: deterministic wallets << the ware that someone dropped in the chan a few days ago was amusing: you enter you die rolls on the command line (history!) and then it converts to 'diceware' string, and then it takes a sha256 hash
danielpbarron: you're from a different WoT, sort-of; all your connections are from -otc, and none are from here (or at least from anyone here who matters (and therefore anyone anywhere who matters))
danielpbarron: you've got quite a few positive ratings from users i don't trust
danielpbarron: well my having not done it doesn't matter as i'm no longer a lord
thestringpuller: that is a name I haven't seen in sometime
thestringpuller: today I heard the phrase: "Encryption as a Service" used as a buzz-phrase.
undata: I don't feel a burning urge to attract the attention of that govt
asciilifeform: with a gigantic, mainly usg-operated apparatus to keep 'paying for software' as a going concern even.
asciilifeform: no, it's always 'i'm gonna own an xxx and a yyy which will bring in...'
undata: I think you're right; it won't be a great thing abroad to be or have been an american
asciilifeform: the pub is really the property of the freeloaders, or local chieftain, whoever; the 'owner' is simply a clown kept around for entertainment value and while he brings over friends to spend usd ☟︎
undata: argie let nazis retire there; what's wrong with a few 'muricans? :D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head he knows what will happen to his sorry arse if he were to do so. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
undata: how is govt any less natural a hazard?
undata: I can; as for the rest, natural selection's a bitch
nubbins`: seems to me there's not a whole lot you can do to avoid either
undata: +asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: most u.s. subjects don't have an obvious rational action to follow the awakening of 'aha so i'm living in a zoo run by demented vivisectionists, now i need to...' << make money and gtfo in my case