20000+ entries in 1.611s
BTC-Mining: Especially if you manage a 500 BTC fund which earn 1-2
% (5-10 BTC weekly), then get 5
% of that (0.25 to 0.5 BTC weekly)
BTC-Mining: Especially since they make around 5
% of profits from funds/passthrough they manage.
BTC-Mining: That's around 2-5
% per week depending on the week.
mircea_popescu: smickles i meant ss's <100
% is no competition for mpoe.etf's 1188
% as "highest return thibng"
smickles: mircea_popescu: based on the last price, ss would be a 75.891883
% gain when you include dividend payments
assbot: SS [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.59075039 BTC. Last price: 0.0111 BTC. Capital gain: -0.0889 BTC. Total: 0.50185039 BTC. (501.9
%)
assbot: MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 1.2638345 BTC. Capital gain: 1.1638345 BTC. Total: 1.18853732 BTC. (1188.5
%)
assbot: MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 1.2 BTC. Capital gain: 1.1 BTC. Total: 1.12470282 BTC. (1124.7
%)
smickles: jees, not to mention the usd/btc rate went up ~150
% during its operation
mircea_popescu: i thought he had about 40
% in gpus and about 90
% in fpga ?
OneEyed: GamblingMan: but I've no doubt I'll loose everything, but right now, my returns are more than 100
% if you remove the fees (which were high because I chose to start with .001 + .0005 of fees)
GamblingMan: OneEyed: Only an 80
% loss? You're rocking that 98
% address. lol
GamblingMan: You should have stuck with the original test, but I assume after losing a few dozen times in a row using the 98
% address, you gave up. ;)
assbot: MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 0.3 BTC. Capital gain: 0.2 BTC. Total: 0.22470282 BTC. (224.7
%)
GamblingMan: now I know that mircea_popescu is 100
% full of shit.
GamblingMan: It would have to retain 80
% of the dividends to make the yield even close to acceptable for that valuation.
OneEyed: GamblingMan: you know that it retains an additional 5
% of the dividends, right?
GamblingMan: I thought you'd post a nice
%. I already know what your results will be...
mircea_popescu: but anyway, iirc AAPL paid something like .5
% a year last, so
OneEyed: I should win almost every time (97.9
% of the time)
OneEyed: to the 97.9
% win address, with an expected gain of 1.004x when I win
GamblingMan: Great. I'm expecting your test to return somewhere in the 45-55
% range.
GamblingMan: I actually returned an average of 48
% through all of my testing...
GamblingMan: When in fact their guidelines are 100
% inflated.
GamblingMan: Their best claimed return address actuall returns less than 48
% consistently in my tests that were performed over a several week period.
GamblingMan: copumpkin: Only if the casino claimed they repaid 98
% and I lost 50
% consistently.
GamblingMan: Looks like the dividend is less than 6
% a year!
OneEyed: Smoovious: did he not pay and say "sorry guys, I'm broke and I didn't invest your money"? *That* would be a scam, and I would be 100
% on your side. But here, now that people know that he doesn't have mining hardware, he cannot even say "My hardware broke, sorry, no returns until I get a replacement"
Bugpowder: My concern with NYAN.A is sufficient that I sold out of B.MPCP.B at 5
% below par today
BTC-Mining: Doffx, no, around 1
% is pretty much what was expected
Doffx: Is the Gsdpt div pretty low? I was thinking it might reach 4
% a month or so, buts its quite a bit lower than that. Less than 1
% BTC-Mining: 34.5K would need then 3.45k a year in divs for 10
% or 287.5 BTC per month
femtotube: and this 34.5K BTC represents 10
% of the Co?
mircea_popescu: and on that 34.5k they realise through dividends about 15-20
% a year.
femtotube: he makes 2-5K but investors paid 30K for 10
% mircea_popescu: dude. he makes the whole net. he owns 9x
% of the shares.
mircea_popescu: the shares make roughly 15-20
% a year on dividends, yes
femtotube: 30K BTC for 10
%! and 10
% from 2K is 200
femtotube: Thy can not steal that large of a
% femtotube: 10
% of a imaginary value, bloated way out of proportions
OneEyed: femtotube: yeah, but even those 95
% have probably not been passed yet
femtotube: OneEyed: 95
% of divs only gets passed
assbot: GSDPT [1@0.0032BTC] paid: 7.468E-5 BTC. Last price: 0.00389 BTC. Capital gain: 0.00069 BTC. Total: 0.00076468 BTC. (23.9
%)
BTC-Mining: Oh wait... 0
% - 1
% per day eh. I guess he can pay 0
%.
assbot: GSDPT [1@0.0032BTC] paid: 7.468E-5 BTC. Last price: 0.0034 BTC. Capital gain: 0.0002 BTC. Total: 0.00027468 BTC. (8.6
%)
assbot: CPA [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.01500001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.08499999 BTC. Total: -0.07930311 BTC. (-79.3
%)
Eisenhower34: all mining bonds made something between 1.5
% and 2
% interest a week
OneEyed: Bugpowder: I know. I bought some at 0.03 before going to work, and sold them at 0.04 right after, easy +30
%…
Bugpowder: it's like buy OBSI, wait 2 days, panic sell for 8
% loss
mircea_popescu: most of the hardcore glbse fans are literally -50
% every quarter
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder lol 2-3
% is a lot better than what people are doing
Bugpowder: I'm like slightly annoyed that I keep loosing 2
% here 3
% there, but at least I have gotten out of almost all the bullshit
assbot: BMF [1@0.49BTC] (since: 2012-10-01) paid: 0.00199044 BTC. Last price: 0.48 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: -0.00800956 BTC. (-1.6
%)
BTC-Mining: And now OBSI pays 0
% dividends it seems
Bugpowder: you could be paying 25
% divvy a week
assbot: BTC-MINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.27012647 BTC. Last price: 0.921 BTC. Capital gain: -0.079 BTC. Total: 0.19112647 BTC. (19.1
%)
PsychoticBoy: <usagi> LIke we have 210 shares of ABM. That's 21
% of the company o_o << your my bigest share holdert
assbot: BMF [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.07135279 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.0286472 BTC. (-5.7
%)
assbot: ABM [1@0.2BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.08498899 BTC. (-42.5
%)
PsychoticBoy: but I thought you said mining companies droped 50
% but if you had bought ABM in June you had paid .22 and then with a sale at .45 you would gain 110
% assbot: ABM [1@0.25BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.14999999 BTC. Total: -0.13498899 BTC. (-54
%)
assbot: ABM [1@0.35BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.24999999 BTC. Total: -0.23498899 BTC. (-67.1
%)
assbot: BMMO [1@0.14BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.01673604 BTC. Last price: 0.04 BTC. Capital gain: -0.1 BTC. Total: -0.08326396 BTC. (-59.5
%)
assbot: NYAN.B [1@1BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.16081227 BTC. Last price: 0.96999999 BTC. Capital gain: -0.03000001 BTC. Total: 0.13081226 BTC. (13.1
%)
assbot: NYAN.A [1@1BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.09 BTC. Last price: 0.99 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: 0.08 BTC. (8
%)
assbot: DMC [1@0.45BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0 BTC. Last price: 0.055 BTC. Capital gain: -0.395 BTC. Total: -0.395 BTC. (-87.8
%)
assbot: DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.055 BTC. Capital gain: -0.945 BTC. Total: -0.91864186 BTC. (-91.9
%)
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.48117596 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.39500003 BTC. Total: 0.08617593 BTC. (8.6
%)
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@0.9BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.132775 BTC. Last price: 0.60499997 BTC. Capital gain: -0.29500003 BTC. Total: -0.16222503 BTC. (-18
%)
Luceo: I think I'm about 2
% down on usagi-related shares, maybe less than that
assbot: YABMC [1@0.14BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.02337128 BTC. Last price: 0.07034002 BTC. Capital gain: -0.06965998 BTC. Total: -0.0462887 BTC. (-33.1
%)
assbot: NYAN.A [1@1BTC] paid: 0.09 BTC. Last price: 0.99 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: 0.08 BTC. (8
%)
assbot: ABM [1@0.45BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.015011 BTC. Last price: 0.10000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.34999999 BTC. Total: -0.33498899 BTC. (-74.4
%)
Luceo: 5.7
% is also pretty much exactly the movement in BTC isn't it?
assbot: BMF [1@0.5BTC] (since: 2012-08-05) paid: 0.07135279 BTC. Last price: 0.40000001 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09999999 BTC. Total: -0.0286472 BTC. (-5.7
%)
assbot: NYAN [1@1BTC] paid: 0.08033233 BTC. Last price: 0.6 BTC. Capital gain: -0.4 BTC. Total: -0.31966767 BTC. (-32
%)