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mircea_popescu: apple story being apple got ftc to sue the chinos, ftc got lapdogs (intel, samsung) to join in. the chinos might actually slap an ic export ban on us.
trinque: no woods to speak of inside city limits
mod6: i've always wanted to do my best, or be as good as I can be at something that interested me. im not as smart or as clever as many, but I put in the work. i find that putting in the work pays dividends later.
mircea_popescu: trinque teens also can't take gf into woods to fuck her intensively no mo ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> on the upside, really can't be fired anymore. << probably not. i don't worry about it. if one door closes, another opens. besides, someday not too far off, this will be the thing.
mircea_popescu: sounds like the plan!
mod6: some of the topics reach far and wide. gotta stay on task. but always will try to pick up what I can, where I can.
mod6: altogether, i'm trying to stay focused on trb too. and learn these other topics as I go.
trinque: http://www.houstonpress.com/news/houston-homeless-brace-themselves-as-anti-encampment-ordinance-goes-into-effect-9436174 << h-town heard the republic, is making poverty illegal inch by inch. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: on the upside, really can't be fired anymore.
mod6: *learn these
mod6: mircea_popescu: aha, im getting an education. trying to relentlessly get better/learthese disciplines
mircea_popescu: by the time you're done with logs, you'll have like 5 diff careers mod6
mod6: i've read through it ~twice. so far, it makes sense to me, but I need a more careful going-through. part of why I'm learning verilog.
asciilifeform: did it make sense to you, how and why the thing worx.
asciilifeform: mod6: incidentally didja ever get a chance to read fg.v ?
mod6: yah,thanks! this is awesome ftr. having fun doing it.
mod6: I'm pretty sure that's the first time. But will do follow up analysis after 3rd run against this 5th FG>
mod6: interesting this time. collected ~1.5Gb. All tests passed the dieharder.
mod6: Here's the results from the first entropy collection of FG #5: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg5.ent_run1.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg5.dieharder_run1.txt
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the whipping post, http://68.media.tumblr.com/f0d4eb2dbb99fe6d9ddc018774b6b73f/tumblr_n3ubtmX66P1sc3xtso1_500.gif
mod6: speaking of which, i have new results to post.
mod6: later, they come.
asciilifeform: at this time.
asciilifeform: market of idiots is not exactly busting down the door to buy sane hardware.
asciilifeform: ( we had, some time last year, a thread, where asciilifeform learns that a number of 'crackpot' fabs will make you a few dozen dies for the cost of a toyota, rather than aston-martin. but various problems remain -- it typically takes 5 or 6 rounds; and they want nda, and the use of winblowz liquishitware tools, etc, and extensive hand-holding )
mircea_popescu: but ~nobody reads them anyway.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mod6: ah. thanks for the input. this is interesting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'reasonable cost' in this context is ' asciilifeform's experimentation budget.' which presently does not stretch to ic fab.
mircea_popescu: and talking of nigger spawn, http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/party-girl-malia-obama-freaks-accosts-white-house-correspondent-lucian-wintrich-exclusive-ny-club/
mircea_popescu: mod6 basically, a digital machine has no real reason to store a 1 as a 1 rather than any other arbitrary time-pattern
asciilifeform: mod6: needs transistor-level layout.
asciilifeform: for the purpose of arithmetic
asciilifeform: so, e.g., 010101010101.... is a 0, and on this same machine, in parallel time, 10101010101... is a 1
mod6: yeah, just was trying to grasp that concept.
asciilifeform: mod6: it simply means that you store a bit as ~phase~
mircea_popescu: every piece of shit intel crapware was prototyped. reasonable cost is an entirely conventional notion. malia obama gets to keep her head for another month, how's that for reasonable.
mod6: do i follow if i store 10 on rising-edge for odd, and 01 at the same time for falling edge even?
mircea_popescu: certainly worth prototyping at the least.
asciilifeform: where transistor is run on razor's edge of saturation at all times
asciilifeform: because same number of transitions on every clock cycle, regardless of what it is doing.
asciilifeform: theoretically power draw of this device will be exactly the same , at all times, as if it were resistive load
asciilifeform: now you store bit as ~phase~ of the square wave, rather than absolute steady state of the flipflop. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: pretty easy to implement, also. just make the flip-flop that forms sram cell, connected to clock.
asciilifeform: (iirc discussed in ancient thread, this method. afaik no one has ever used it, publicly.)
asciilifeform: this'd annihilate such a thing as ram remanance
asciilifeform: if i were drawing up such a thing, i'd even have the sram work in such a way that 10 is a 1 on odd clock cycles, 0 on even ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: on chip level, a non-radiating ALU is quite trivial to make, however
asciilifeform: ( and you certainly could not do it under any such thing as an os, even if there were no pipeline. )
asciilifeform: pc (even multi-processor pc) doesn't give it to you
mircea_popescu: use two cores.
asciilifeform: not same thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in principle you could just do mirror ops of all things anywya neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes well, 250 digit numbers then
asciilifeform: ideally we would also be doing all arithmetic ops on a cpu that executes both the op and its exact register-wise bitcomplement
asciilifeform: same instructions gotta execute no matter what bits are set or not set in the operands. every time.
mod6: cool. that's good anyway, we don't need revenge of the floating-point bug.
asciilifeform: period. anywhere. they are banned.
asciilifeform: no tables.
mod6: or something like SRT with a lookup table?
asciilifeform: which is to have the ins AND outs in-conversation.
mircea_popescu: i imagine he's gonna use trinque's tree
asciilifeform: in other near-term lulz, a 'pbot' is in the worx, so that folx can play with various input->output pairs in-chan ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-09-18 19:37 asciilifeform: 'happy is the man who has one leg, one sock doesn't tear, one boot isn't needed.'
mircea_popescu: as the one, the only, the forever carlin said, "the man himself was philosophical about it : it's that much less skin to wash."
asciilifeform: and hey, dun have to hang upside-down, like odin!111
mircea_popescu: hey, at least you don't have to scroll horizontally.
asciilifeform: because this is screamingly elementary piece.
asciilifeform: it boggles my mind that i gotta do this, rather than there being where to crib.
asciilifeform: as opposed to 'worked on the 1,001 cases i came up with'
asciilifeform: worse than that, because it has to be proven to actually work
mod6: ahh. ok. yah, i suppose it requires a bunch of on-paper - try it yourself until blue in face.
asciilifeform: 0 useful docs anywhere on division in constant time
shinohai: seriously? I haz removed oil filters w/ screwdriver but that's just ....
mircea_popescu: the more i read about this balsamiq guy, the more i like him.
Framedragger checks the java filled homepage, damn moar books to read. that is nice
Framedragger: yeah i need to read his short story collections in full, he tends to be better at short stories anyway
Framedragger: re. "not salt sacks! cellular automata in large sugar molecules!" (pretty neat, truly)
Framedragger recommends egan's "wang's carpets", to contribute, in all seriousness. (later incorporated as a chapter in his "diaspora", asciilifeform will know)
trinque: not at all. but anything that renders the other familiar too easily.. sure smells like one
trinque: all the more terrible and uninviting a universe if there aren't elsewhere salt water sacks whose symbols we could hope to grok?
Framedragger: ty ty
Framedragger: no yeah i'm quite terrible here
Framedragger: *i* got a reference to a nice piece by feynman. it was also mentioned on the forum logs. booyah!
mircea_popescu: this is ~identical to person who reads article in nature, in his field, pukes, then goes on to take next story seriously.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger so basically what you did was, you moved the discussion from where it was obviously stupid, to where it was not obviously stupid (to you), and needs feynman to explain what and werefore.
mircea_popescu: "sure, and as anything they want to! there's a fortran for that."
Framedragger: yeah quite a few assumptions re triangulation, hm
mircea_popescu: "everyone understands the number 4"
asciilifeform: Framedragger: feynman, iirc it was, had a piece re the trickiness of using stellar bodies as 'talk to martians' reference, when you have nfi even which way the martian's display scans
mircea_popescu: sure, not matter of sympathy. matter of -- just like the egyptian kids sit in luxor center for businessmen trying to find old dizzy cow with social security payments to build them a tourist trap, just so perhaps indian kids sit in indian cafe, trying to get usg tendrils trapped.
Framedragger: the pulsar part i think would count as asciilifeformic diagram, maybe. but just that, and only just
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 22:29 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes recall the pharma wiz kid ? the one they dekulakized for "how dare you buy things and then raise price on them"
Framedragger: but yeah, not much to it i guess
Framedragger: sure, if you argue for (if that's the term) ultimate epistemological relativism, crabs in water, then whatever. but we don't intend crabs to intercept a space vessel anyway
mircea_popescu: maybe they are.
Framedragger: pulsars are more visible than latin, is what i meant
Framedragger: it is qualitatively less stupid than printing a fucking human figure on the plate.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the meaning of "straightforward" being ?