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mircea_popescu: in other fiat-octopus-withdrawing-from-salt news, https://forum.fiverr.com/t/payment-in-bitcoin/100989 << fiverr discontinues bitcoin payments.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 16:59 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the bait and switch thing. reddit started life as a sort of 4chan with a jump, ie the little girl's not on the page, but you have to click. this wasn't accidental, because their phase 2 ("growth phase" eh) consisted of the exact value proposition : add your crap to reddit, watch people click on it. once growth stopped they dropped the bait, switched to "we will control the conversation in this ever-so-importan
mircea_popescu: i suppose. though really the problem as far as interests here is this : presented with an "aberration", in natural noise you really can't tell whether relevant ; whereas in gaussian noise you generally can guess.
mircea_popescu: apeloyee ammo is always expensive even if free, for a purely ecological reason. you don't want your space too filled with ordnance.
apeloyee: it wastes all the ammo.<< if ammo would be cheap they wouldn't.
asciilifeform: it isn't a particularly mysterious process.
apeloyee: I concede I don't have a good estimate as to the amount of information a fixed location's good for
apeloyee: two stations won't let you recover the signal, of course; just know something's there as soon as it transmitted enough bits (literally!)
asciilifeform: i haven't verified that the 3rd rail in the underground is 800 volts hot, yet, either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but that's the point, a battlefield where everyone was properly armed hasn't existed since the sabine "war-games" ie let's figure out who impregnates this gang of feverish sluts.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it is altogether likely that HADN'T there been a "hero security guard"/illegal immigrant to try and break in the door, 60 or so useless tards watching a "concert" would still be here sucking down their coca colas.
mircea_popescu: isn't it great for a free and open society to enjoy a vigurous academia which, like the brain on the healthy body, encased in its grey old stones, can lead through the bog of nonsense towards that enchanted high plateau of truth and sparkling clean springwater on the side ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz of all time : the pre-collapse of pantsuitistan scholarship of the anglo "peasan't revolt" (item where they beheaded the lord chancellor/treasurer/all cambridge robes they could find etc) was that MAJOR SOCIO-ECONOMICAL and POLITICAL!!! development OF GREAT IMPACT!!11
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732711 << of course. back in the z80 days the whole memory could be printed out, wouldn't even take a whole book. more like what today passes for one, ie 40-50 pages' worth. ☝︎
asciilifeform: gotta luvv, incidentally, the 'huffman compression' thing. 'we can't decompress because nobody has the table'. except if you had instrumented sticks of ram, that can be read out of band ( i.e. without cooperation of the mobo and its contents , through a second hole ) you could quite easily restore the entire image ( which sections get read , in what order ? concatenate'em. )
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> diana_coman iirc the cobra had 80kb ? <- hmmm, iirc 58 keys but I can't say I'm 100% certain
vlad56324: You want all new hardware, don't reuse stuff that was already online
asciilifeform: don't buy intel. or amd made in 2011 and after.
asciilifeform: it isn't a cure but is a treatment.
vlad56324: i would like to ask: there is some specific distro that by default doesn't need to communicate out of my lan?
asciilifeform: i'll answer this one : there isn't one.
mircea_popescu hasn't been following the story.
mircea_popescu: i don't even know i ever had one. by the time they were more or less available i got ibm pc
asciilifeform: sure it wasn't 8 ?
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform for instance had a 486 in 1990s that couldn't speak 115200 )
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: znort "finally" ran three times now. if zhe comes back again i won't be overly surprised. like how many other btc corpses, znort surely has nine lives.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. you won't burn it unless really try )
asciilifeform: contract doesn't come with a magical spell of +9000 literacy, unfortunately
mircea_popescu: well you don't have to do it exclusively. but sure.
mircea_popescu: a deal can be anything. a stupid deal, or a deal of no economic value or relevancy, such as me offering for sale my palace on the moon, with the footnote that as far as i know there's no palaces on the moon and if there were i don't know of owning any is one thing. fraud begins later on.
asciilifeform: well yes. we didn't take orders until conveyor physically rolled.
mircea_popescu: same item would have been "why doesn't s.nsa claim to have an item it doesn't and sell it, like butterfly labs"
mircea_popescu: davout "immediate" doesn't mean "in so and so $magic number time interval". immediate means, without intervening steps.
mircea_popescu: bitfinex evidently isn't rich enough.
davout: isn't that what the mpoe bot was essentially doing?
mircea_popescu: whenever something is taken to the marketplace under a label that doesn't match the content, fraud has been committed.
davout: my point is that taking risks isn't fraudulent if you're able to eat whatever losses you're exposing yourself to
mircea_popescu: there isn't such a mention on, eg, coinmarketcap.com. which is why we aren't having this discussion about that ~useless website ; but about the useless and fraudulent bitfinex.com exact equivalent.
mircea_popescu: there can't not be.
mircea_popescu: yes, "going into restaurant means you'll eat food made by someone". but i didn't go into a commissions store ffs.
mircea_popescu: when i go and sit down in a restaurant and ask for the menu, a certain kind of promise is made. when the waiter doesn't go to the restaurant's kitchen but across the street, sits down with my order and waits for the waiter to approach him, a different kind of thing was executed than was promised.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:07 mircea_popescu: "stuff that doesn't exist yet" in the sense of the milking of tomorrow when you own a cow is not "stuff that doesn't exist yet" in the sense of davout's isp that davout neither owns nor will but for 0 reasons feels within himself a swelling indicating that he's just as good as one who does, and therefore in a small manner, as if by contagion, he also will. because he "could".
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732301 <<< i honestly have nfi what you're on about this ISP thing, I don't recall ever promising anyone to deliver such a thing, or mebbe I was asleep or something? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in practical terms : the spy is well advised to be polite to the doorman ; because the doorman will still have his job when the spy won't have his anymore.
diana_coman: myeah; I meant that I don't quite see the basis on which this guy "sees" the similarity; but I'll admit I was being harsh
asciilifeform: then you couldn't find the signal about noise floor, lol
asciilifeform: can't directly say, e.g., конокрад
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:08 mircea_popescu: yes futures exist, as a financial derivative. no the millenials' meat isn't worth money "because human rights and democrcy" ; nor has argentina's masfuturo a financiable value.
mircea_popescu: this can only come to grief ; and the name of the griefbox is "why is mp so arrogant ; we don't yet know whether it was a scam ; this looks like a serious business because aeron chairs" and other such nonsense amply and insistently documented years ago back when i still vaguely gave a shit about what idiots say and how the idiot brainbox works.
mircea_popescu: yes futures exist, as a financial derivative. no the millenials' meat isn't worth money "because human rights and democrcy" ; nor has argentina's masfuturo a financiable value. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "stuff that doesn't exist yet" in the sense of the milking of tomorrow when you own a cow is not "stuff that doesn't exist yet" in the sense of davout's isp that davout neither owns nor will but for 0 reasons feels within himself a swelling indicating that he's just as good as one who does, and therefore in a small manner, as if by contagion, he also will. because he "could". ☟︎
davout: aka promises aren't in themselves fraudulent because they are promises, failure to deliver on the promise is fraudulent
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731791 <<< i missed that, and no i see no problem with that. selling stuff that doesn't exist yet happens all the time in the regular course of business ☝︎
lobbes: And if that is the case, couldn't it be mitigated through not having the exceptions baked into code, but rather in a separate 'exception list' that can be altered easily?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 20:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1731848 << a word to the wise, don't bake exceptions in.
asciilifeform: ain't no miracles, nothing is crossing ocean without some palpable wattage
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 19:43 apeloyee: you will have to deal with multipath . narrow spectrum modes is just pretending problem doesn't exist, they just stop working on destructive interference
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1731848 << a word to the wise, don't bake exceptions in. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: what did us steal? it can't have been the gurlz, they were still there on sunday
mircea_popescu: tell you what : criminal lawyer either uses rsa or isn't.
mircea_popescu: but, for they interested in ancient history, the phillip g potter dood was there at c1, trying to sell his stuff. it didn't take.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:34 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of 'totally not stolen from #t', https://archive.is/UuRQt
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731785 << no but the 2012 statement doesn't count because it was you know "unfairly" too soon. only the 2017 restatement counts, because CORRECT COLOR OF BITS!11 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:31 asciilifeform: didn't save su cable in sea of japan from 'ivy bells' .
apeloyee: you will have to deal with multipath . narrow spectrum modes is just pretending problem doesn't exist, they just stop working on destructive interference ☟︎
asciilifeform: can't be too wide or you get propagation (and multipath) problems
asciilifeform: apeloyee: don't hesitate to write in if you find one.
apeloyee: no, don't have, sorry.
apeloyee: not really, but then fantasies don't need rigorous definition
asciilifeform: bastard child of 'intelligence amplification' as imagined in 1970s, when 'computer won't suck' was still possible to easily contemplate
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in ffa world, you don't lose anything by using a W-bit prime for the public exponent.
asciilifeform: we weren't comparing gpgmpi to ffa ; but gpg.publicmodexp vs gpg.privatemodexp
apeloyee: asciilifeform: don't be silly, the discrepancy is due to using low public exponent
mircea_popescu: don't worry about it, trial and error, i'll ask questions until i'm out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731745 << ok, but don't count republican accounting in fiatola ; yes you have an underprotection clause, but it's an ancillary, beloings in a footnote. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i am more than a little bit surprised that this didn't bomb
diana_coman: mod6, I couldn't find some that are directly comparable aka only the rsa ops as such
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I don't recall.
mircea_popescu: i know it doesn't look it, but, crocodile is one of the fastest predators ; apex predator everywhere it exists.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Immigrant snakes in Florida will die swallowing alligators, but haven't seen anything about crocs
asciilifeform: oh hey look who wasn't eaten!
asciilifeform: in quite other vintage lulz, http://www.ominous-valve.com/xerf.html >> 'The United States lost this war, after Brinkley veered off into Nazi politics. He became a Hitler sympathizer, dropping the good-doctor act for a different kind of mass psychology... ...The US government had put up with goat glands, but those didn't sabotage FDR's efforts to swing pre-war, public opinion over to the Allies. This was way more serious stuff. It did
davout: your "kindergarten-level" claims don't fool anyone
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731786 <<< i don't see any fundamental problem with taking liquidity from somewhere and reselling it in your shop ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of 'totally not stolen from #t', https://archive.is/UuRQt ☟︎
asciilifeform: didn't save su cable in sea of japan from 'ivy bells' . ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not to mention that it doesn't particularly need to transmit more than a few sec/day. << Janitorial service, vacuums. Recieve at landromat.
asciilifeform: there was a fly in my house earlier and also didn't get squashed.
trinque: point's less the efficacy of the approach but rather, loud point source didn't get squashed
asciilifeform: not to mention that it doesn't particularly need to transmit more than a few sec/day.
asciilifeform: either that, or make use of past 100 yrs of tactic re anti-triangulation : e.g. a) radio doesn't live next to your earthly carcass, controlled remotely b) radio is not 1 emitter, but synchronized chorus ( see saddam's jammer thread) c) radio dun look like a radio, but like 'defective' appliance plausibly d ) use imagination
asciilifeform: wasn't in genuine cocastan tho : we had a travelling exhibit, with plexiglass trailers etc, fiddybux a ticket.
ben_vulpes: doesn't seem terribly wacky, BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: if you don't have the keys, !!key name and then gpg --import.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun get it, can't go to consulate and buy a visa ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus << What, your parks don't have department of picking up after park?
asciilifeform: but what you can't do there, is to not step on the detritus left behind by hooting, hollering 'human' detritus
mircea_popescu: it wasn't in any sense challenging. certainly no cop car twirliong about
asciilifeform: i can't think of any other plausible theory.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Door left unlocked here too, we don't have the urban folk to necessitate much locking