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asciilifeform: nao we need a non-recursive (! , SPARK won't allow recursion nor is it constanttimesafe to have any), constant-time karatsuba...
asciilifeform: even if proper squaring were instantaneous (and it won't be, it will be perhaps 2x faster), this is still painful.
asciilifeform: a 8192-bit mul takes ~0.06s
asciilifeform: which would take several years.
asciilifeform: the funny part is that this is actually ~usable for pgp-like use
asciilifeform: which is not mega-surprise, the op is O(N^5).
asciilifeform: probably doomed to karatsuba
asciilifeform: (recall, it dun matter what the operands are equal to)
asciilifeform: in other news, a 4096-bit A**B takes approx 14 seconds (3GHz) . ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: as for 'ar is too far', d00d was (from his pov) poor -- a small wad of btc, but the damocle's sword of having to do honest work one day, loomed; then he 'sold the motherland' and now rich, problemsolved.
mircea_popescu: which was the thing, back then, "of course he's not going -- to ag or anywhere else. too far from home, country boy."
asciilifeform: didn't he motor all around eu at one time
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only reason this is lulzy is because (different) girl estimated him incapable of going further than a few hundred miles for cultural / mentality reasons.
asciilifeform: hey, not even china, first nz, then th !
mircea_popescu: then they worry about ~my~ bitcoin income. i suppose cows also worry about human dwelling -- no large salt rock in livingroom, how do those poor people live!
mircea_popescu: which takes us right back to the kako lulz. i was sitting with girl earlier, idly observed "check out that dork, argentina was too far for him. china -- not. what the fuck is wrong with people." and she explained. "you know what it is. bitcoin went up. you're thinking, eh, he made hundreds, what does he care. he cares -- because he mostly sold them as he got them, good little soviet."
mircea_popescu: well yes, the thing is weak in all articulations, including that one.
mircea_popescu: cow finds out how to walk on two legs, extract ore, smelt metal, build helicopter, fly over to californy come back with another bushel of oats ? what is this, supercow al rescate ?
mircea_popescu: conceivably someone in the eg donner party went over to the cattle, to tell them that they're fucked, feed's running out, etc. if they did, there was certainly no observable change in cattle behaviour. the fuck were they gonna do ?
mircea_popescu: the result of making all possible change, even the most dismal and unimportant, mindboggling expensive is a large set of cows. they dun care. why shouyld they care ? while the oats & hay lasts they eat and foal ; once it ends it ends. that's all.
mircea_popescu: can't even argue with it. in their environment, it dun pay to care. what's gonna happen, gunman shows up massacres the lot ? hurr, not like ~anything their brains could come up with'd help in that situation. what other environmental pressure do they encounter ? nothing surmountable. if the corp trough has pepsi that day, they can stand on fuckiong head won't get coke. "company policy".
mircea_popescu: "some new device for televising opera"
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure that's right, they literally don't give a shit about anything that's further out than lunch break / takes more thought than lulzpic etc.
asciilifeform: 100% mutual hallucination, 'we close our eyes and there is no wolf'
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 15:53 ben_vulpes: the actual lolz are fluffyponzi ignoring "hey, gonna make that 'monero blockchain integrity scan' reproducible?" in favor of "we had to keep it secret because other cryptonotes were vulnerable"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659175 << afaik the monero users give approx. as much shit as the tor users gave . ☝︎
ben_vulpes: he's got like three lazzi, what
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has to come out of a script at this point
asciilifeform: which is a little odd, for a d00d supposedly relaxing in the company of fine whores on thai beaches
asciilifeform: he never gets tired, either.
asciilifeform: but typical.
mircea_popescu: i am mp and wut is this ?
asciilifeform: i guess this was not the intended usage .
asciilifeform: lol!! phf , that thing dun quite work
a111: Logged on 2016-05-24 13:14 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "I’m all for filth but on my terms, bucko." << they can't quite figure it out lol. the ~only~ "on my terms" woman gets is if her terms happen to (silently!) coincide. otherwise... it's the dogs. << Seriously
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2017#1471209 << for entomologists -- typical example of kako thread , we had 1,001 of these since dragon day. read one, read'em all. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: the actual lolz are fluffyponzi ignoring "hey, gonna make that 'monero blockchain integrity scan' reproducible?" in favor of "we had to keep it secret because other cryptonotes were vulnerable" ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: just the typical "inflate inflate!" if you remember that guy
mircea_popescu: ahahaha finally went home to teh miners ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: kako unplugged it when he went off to asia iirc
mircea_popescu: just what perpetually lazy greeks & co need --- bout time for another "marshall plan".
ben_vulpes: well it took months, but the shannonizers have finally figured out that #bitcoin-assets doesn't have a voice model
mircea_popescu: basically, they're not afraid. this bodes well for fiat o.O
mircea_popescu: (but, worry not -- "climate change" activism is there!)
mircea_popescu: otherwise, inside given cultural space, shit catches on. but no dominant one in us like there was in su (yes, the aspie 14% keeps trying to pretend, but ain't nearly the same thing).
mircea_popescu: soviet jokes also "didn't catch on", which became a joke in itself -- teh georgians dun understand all these muscovy joeks!
mircea_popescu: no culture. nothing can "catch on" in any meaningful sense. romania is a nation, the us is a sort of india.
asciilifeform: dunno if it ever really caught on tho
mircea_popescu: it has no culture, no history ; it has no business class, no anything. what exactly would they say ? compared to whom.
asciilifeform: i always found it interesting, that this fine orc custom never caught on in usa
mircea_popescu: but the intension is strictly that gay bottom.
mircea_popescu: they kept calling him that. possibly on some grounds, but i never fucked him myself so...
mircea_popescu: well, there was this ro version of le canard enchaine ; it was really good. for half a decade or so, absolutely mandatory reading. some shit in there i laughed at for days.
asciilifeform: how'd that come about
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: them's different - for show
asciilifeform: oughta be taught in school -- as jp taught noble boys to properly seppuku , with wooden training knife
mircea_popescu: do you know how many women "try to commit suicide" ?
asciilifeform: this is a rather low bar, however. the marksmanship to correctly eat your pistol.
mircea_popescu: except irl that's not how anything works.
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of losers who imagine these objects are a sort of holy amulet, and the only reason they dun do anything is because "they don't want to", but if "one day" they "decided" to "use them" then WHAM!
mircea_popescu: eh, he's a pasty. wtf does he know about guns or shooting them.
asciilifeform: somewhat unusual result tho
mircea_popescu: which is why i even bothered pointing it out to him, "you fucking idiot, you're STILL defending "the state" wtf is wrong with you."
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- was a major victory for the us dept of nuland, because thsi was the first time local aristocracy actrually got the black treatment. guy took it verypersonal, tried to shoot self, had a hole in jaw for a while.
asciilifeform: not most 'corporate' types, either
asciilifeform: yeah nobody at or above city dog catcher political level, in usa, would survive this procedure
mircea_popescu: in this specific case, for taking a bribe in the form of some electoral campaign materials some other dudes gave some other dudes in exchange for what some other dudes did.
mircea_popescu: what for ? well, for being a contemptible low life. plenty of shit to convict her of, if you actually were to apply you know, "the iron hand of teh law" that black dudes with a nickle bag keep running into.
mircea_popescu: this question allows multiple answers. but basically, suppose trump actually was traian basescu. then clinton WOULD be in jail.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile from the garden hose dept: https://68.media.tumblr.com/bafd84df5f5053c1908ecdda09bc925b/tumblr_n7wf6rQerO1tc0kc4o7_500.gif
asciilifeform: sky's the limit
mircea_popescu: and aquarelle in the shower ?
asciilifeform: and a comp in the shitter
mircea_popescu: watches wifey clean while stuck in traffic ?
mircea_popescu: it is perhaps the definitive difference between genders, that man would love nothing more than for woman to do something useful while he fucks her.
phf: the three witches from macbeth! i always imagine them cackling. so you're walking around the street, hear cackling, which is a kind of call of inevitability, you shake it off like "begone, chimera, must be some weird beard, nothing else" but you ~know~
mircea_popescu: https://adriannastase.ro/2017/05/13/statul-roman/comment-page-1/#comment-164967 << item in question, for the passionated.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea about this whole thing! wut is it phf ?
phf: you know, the weird sisters, hand in hand, posters of the sea and land
mircea_popescu: nah, that was ion iliescu, president. they teaqmed up for a while though.\
asciilifeform: was he responsible for the 'ducks and the trucks' ?
shinohai: Perhaps the macho can be balanced with a dose of `rico suave`
mircea_popescu: phf the who ?
mircea_popescu: dude! the ro guy, ex-con ex-pm ? actually published my comment. color me impressed.
phf: you sure it's not one of them wayward sisters?
mircea_popescu: there's also a bird that cackles, literally. so we'd be fucking or talking or w/e, and the bird is a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
mircea_popescu: there's also an insect that sounds EXACTLY like a dying fan
mircea_popescu: phf costa rica has a bird, does the EXACT FUCNING NOISE
phf: it's when certain kinds of harddrive clicks permanently trigger a sense of dread in you
mircea_popescu: remember those things ? more steel on them than on today's toyota.
asciilifeform: i got one of these in a box, that still worked last i saw
mircea_popescu: my most frustrating experience in this vein was back in dos dies, one of those maxtor 40mb, dick-tall drives. which i thought properly immortal, at the time.
phf: nope, recompiled the binary from different file, new name, etc. same result. it's something about how cmucl packs an executable
mircea_popescu: is the drive dying just-so ?
phf: no, theoretically there shouldn't be any kind of difference at all
mircea_popescu: do you need diff permission sets to run global vs directly ?
phf: asciilifeform: that would be the first guess, but `which` disagrees
mircea_popescu: weird error for that
asciilifeform: i'ma guess that phf had ~another~ foo in his path
asciilifeform: when i'm satisfied with the numerics, incl. primality test, i'ma genesis it..