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mircea_popescu: Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and
asciilifeform: 'all the world's a stage' or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: it's like going to a bar, except free drinks
mircea_popescu: dude could be a pretty rand standup comedian.
mircea_popescu: every asshole in a dinner is newsworthy now ?
asciilifeform: winnie pooh walks into a butcher's shop, asks 'got mortadella' ? answer, 'sure' winnie pooh draws a submachinegun and spins round, round, round with it, mowing down everything that moves: 'for piiigleet!' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Tommy Dean Gaa, of Maryville, reportedly told the waitress, after she asked if he wanted wheat or white toast, that he was prejudiced and therefore would take white toast, according to a probable cause statement viewed by the Maryville Daily Forum.'
mircea_popescu: he probably got a little horny for the nude girl at dating age
asciilifeform: orlov himself is in no hurry to trade his computer for a spear.
asciilifeform: he knows full well that it is every bit as possible to transform from what a civilized man is to a stray dog as to the indian.
asciilifeform: why, i wonder, did he pick the indians as an example of 'the true path' and not, say, a stray dog ?
mircea_popescu: "This, I submit, is on its own sufficient proof that pornography is a wholesome, socially representative activity, whereas both cinematography and fashion are (by comparison at least) pernicious and very, very false. And that which is false can never be art, irrespective of all pretense to the contrary."
trinque: rather than a wad of concepts I believed
trinque: as a sort of direct, sensory thing
mircea_popescu: and i'll take any bet that feudalism as promoted by b-a will take the piss, vinegar and cockroach guts out of any alternative, startingwith the usg
mircea_popescu: a system, mind you, that had supported nine centuries of previous monarchs just fine
mircea_popescu: only in a sense.
asciilifeform: Mandalay. The one-time empire builders were reduced to the status of clerks, buried deeper and deeper under mounds of paper and red tape. In the early twenties one could see, all over the Empire, the older officials, who had known more spacious days, writhing impotently under the changes that were happening. From that time onwards it has been next door to impossible to induce young men of spirit to take any part in imperial a
asciilifeform: 'Thirty years ago the Blimp class was already losing its vitality. The middle-class families celebrated by Kipling, the prolific lowbrow families whose sons officered the army and navy and swarmed over all the waste places of the earth from the Yukon to the Irrawaddy, were dwindling before 1914. The thing that had killed them was the telegraph. In a narrowing world, more and more governed from Whitehall, there was every year l
mircea_popescu: to this day i suspect xiaoping's plan was exactly 1. industrialise through giving away the products to the west. within half a century you will have the industry and they will have collapsed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, this was a strongly held byzantine notion, too.
asciilifeform: we're still at a point where a great many people alive would need a time machine tour to be convinced of anything like civilization being possible without state-at-center
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:50:13; mircea_popescu: the socialist state does not want a normally functioning society, but instead this stellar configuration where the state is at the center,
mircea_popescu: exactly antitethical to how wots work, incidentally. because coherence is the only possible attacxk against a wot. ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: and the whole concept of everybody getting their mental firmware from the palace, rather than from organic hierarchy that's been around for millenia, is a 20th century evil
trinque: as I think about it, mostly a fairy tale that extends the reach of foot-soldiers to nightmares
trinque: this calls into question whether the interaction between sovereign and subject is one of the dispensation of a (hopefully better) OS, as I stated, or whether he is rather to be a force of nature which is so, regardless of what winblows they're running
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 19:43:16; asciilifeform: chetty: ''Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what o
mircea_popescu: right ? whether ou find it or not, it's always there to fuck oyu over the mouth. with a stick.
trinque: mircea_popescu: you have a hell of a way of provoking a cascade of thought/reflection with a single question
cazalla: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trinity-students-think-bitcoin-regulator-could-put-business-185046897--finance.html#kESZasb "They believe a Bitcoin ‘credit-check’ database, in which potential business partners could scope each other out, could be the answer." lol
asciilifeform: 'Joe Angelo, a decorated hero from the war who saved Patton's life, approached him the day after to sway him. Rather than accept and listen to the man whom he had decorated himself for his bravery under fire, Patton coldly rejected him and stated "I do not know this man. Take him away and under no circumstances permit him to return."' (pediwik)
asciilifeform: in a seriously broken culture, generation n does not really pass to gen. n+1 the sense of being part of the same thing
mircea_popescu: a woman that remembers her time as queen of sheeba and a sow that remembers the greatness of mud make just as good mates for a hog mounting humiliation porn thing.
asciilifeform: a leap of conjecture - modern usg began to take shape once the last folks who remembered pre-civilwar usa were gone.
mircea_popescu: all a matter of context, who fires on whom
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu centralism would be that eretz israel geese in a barrel thing again
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> well, first hoover, then fdr << the pissing on veterans is a universal sport. this is why being a soldier is dumb, being a mercenary is better.
trinque: pete_dushenski: I just spent a long time sitting once upon a time
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for the birth of modern usg << more like the birthplace of the central planning element thereof. "we affirm congress has the authority to central plan economic activity"
mircea_popescu: btw : he only ended up in jail because he was a politician, and poiliticians exclusively are required to DECLARE their fortune.
pete_dushenski: trinque: there was a moment where I realized my whole model of my life, experience, etc was that, a model << curious, when ?
trinque: there was a moment where I realized my whole model of my life, experience, etc was that, a model
pete_dushenski: it's a pretty naive os to be sure
trinque: pete_dushenski: I think we'd agree then. I'm saying the OS that's being distributed is a mangled hack
pete_dushenski: it's not clear to me that reality is digestible below a certain level of intelligence
pete_dushenski: whether they pray to the state or science or the church is a matter of fashion
trinque: pete_dushenski: this form of govt does not broadcast a coherent model of reality
trinque: this brings to mind again my (hardly novel) thought that the usg is a shattered sovereign, rather than the absence of one
asciilifeform: which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for the birth of modern usg
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: The giving of false testimony - a crime, seen in Russia as small change - in the U.S. can lead to 26 years of prison. The fact that, in essence, the matter concerned a young girl who did not wish to admit her love affair with a married man, interests no one in the U.S. The principle of the machine is: do it [the crime] - receive. [consequences] the machine is merciless and incorruptible.'
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am
pete_dushenski: never hurts to have a rich uncle
hanbot: was a funny case of that in romania. prime minister, very corrupt, "from my auntie!"
asciilifeform: the above is not a statement of 'history is a boot stomping on a human face forever', but a testable hypothesis about actual near-future observables.
asciilifeform: 'mr x, you're a registered pauper, but is that a first class air ticket you're holding? where'dyagetthat' ☟︎
asciilifeform: the algorithm for sniffing out faux poverty is also not a deep secret, nor especially new
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> does he have like a gpg signed thing from ben_vulpes or something ? << pardon?
asciilifeform: bank gets a call - 'mr. x is a dangerous terrorist. is this a terrorist bank?'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: worked pre btc << still works on all but the l33t35t d00dz, who don't need a bank for anything, are entirely untainted by usa-juice, etc
asciilifeform: so, the chump can travel wherever he wants, to zimbabwe if he likes, but if we were to rock the boat - a bureaucrat flips the switch, and -bam- - he's a pauper.
asciilifeform: that can be confiscated by flipping a switch
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have no idea for a better spec.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i thought they'd flag your passport if you get IRS audited and charged for evasion? (though I guess this is more a dice roll if it occurs to an individual)
mircea_popescu: does he have like a gpg signed thing from ben_vulpes or something ?
cazalla: how long until tax man comes to you and says, i'm a reasonable guy, i'll accept payment for your taxes in bitcoin?
asciilifeform: afaik no one expat has yet been brought back in a cage for not paying. but i'm told that certain foreign banks will avoid you if they learn you have u.s. citizenship.
mircea_popescu: im sure they murder whoever dares open a pizzeria.
thestringpuller: cause the executor of the will is a scammer?
thestringpuller: sounds like a scam
mircea_popescu: ima put a btc on "over 6 hours", how about that.
thestringpuller: is there a bitbet for if he gets convicted or not?
mircea_popescu: well if it were easy to say it wouldn't make much of a bet.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a whole lot of "hei guise, wheel!"
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y << harvard being somewhat useful rather than handing out A's to the females who are best in bed.
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: i like the branch and fork model. and we do need a non-code collaboration toolset built around that model. and we know that model works for closed communities, dictatorships and everything else
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's true. Mitochondria have their own different DNA from their hosts and their hosts use them as a dependency
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: Eh, mitochondria are their own seperate life form. sort of like a libc
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: dude i was working on it when i still believed in randos. a long time ago
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: i've been in on his weekly hangouts a few times, very very cool times
ben_vulpes: ward cunningham's a cool dude
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: the_scourge: Not a bad log day to start on http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2013#411276 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Eh, mitochondria are their own seperate life form. sort of like a libc
ben_vulpes: <the_scourge> mircea_popescu: yah cool, i did read through some logs << some lol. the point is that you've gotta pick up the variety speak, and that comes from reading logs in near-real-time for six months, not "some" or "a few" or "the ones i found interesting and/or easy" ☟︎
the_scourge: which is why we're going to get 3-parent babies soon. which is bullshit it's just a mother, father + a different woman's mitochondira
thestringpuller: and its a fucking mystery why the fuck they even exist
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: yes, moving to meat was a benefit in itself
BingoBoingo: the_scourge> when we started cooking our food (cause fire was a new technology at some point), our intestine shrunk by over 20%, leaving more energy for our brain << More likely shrunk as meat became nutrient fire or not. Most carnivores have short GI tracts because meat digest faster than comlex plant matter. Cell walls are a bitch to break.
the_scourge: i'm not disagreeing with you. i eat lots of meat. when i lived in a freer countries, i shot most of what i ate. you're preaching to the choir here but there are huge benefits to some of the more accessible forms of protein
the_scourge: when we started cooking our food (cause fire was a new technology at some point), our intestine shrunk by over 20%, leaving more energy for our brain
BingoBoingo: Mitochondria is not everything. with steak you pop cellular membrane and start tearing a part long chains of proteins
the_scourge: and hey i'm of the "catch and eat it raw" line of thought as well, it's just that from a scientific look, spirulina does require a lot less investment
the_scourge: basically spirulina, the advantage is you have to break down one cellular wall and you have mitochondria, meat is a MUCH harder process
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better than meat than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done to meat before your body can digest it :D << Also even though "complete" spirulina in low in some more important amino acids
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better than meat than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done to meat before your body can digest it :D << Must go in mouth. Even raw I digest fine.
the_scourge: it's part of a jargon from a very different community
adlai: unchurched, noun: a computer which does not use church numerals
trinque: that has to be a new term
the_scourge: as for it being more expensive... what a retarded thing to say. even for USG
asciilifeform: in the sense of 'folks we haven't gotten a good shot at christing yet'