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asciilifeform: as it is it is the sane-but-humble folx ( who understand that their winblowz box does not make a reasonable btctron, but haven't 20yrs to live life again to make something else ) who are pushed away. i dun see the win.
mircea_popescu: some are born to endless night, and just as many today as ever.
asciilifeform: that redditus is dumb-as-rock is beyond dispute
mircea_popescu: 1817 sicilians still did it as in 817 and 183 bc. traditional society, which means, they don't change THE FORMS of the stupidity. still dumb as rocks.
mircea_popescu: yes, sane wallet would be useful as part of baleen system to extract not-retarded individual somehow unaware/lost among the retards.
mircea_popescu: as per the ancient "i sold my shares once the soubrette i was fucking on the side started talking shares with the bootblack"
mircea_popescu: it's basicalyl a blind seeking of hillaries, they herd as a behaviou searching the environment space for a pantsuit to "lead them" into welfare statism.
asciilifeform: but not as productive as not-losing, because disincentivises repeat shots
asciilifeform: as i see it, redditus buying ( or better, TUPW-ing ) some btc and then throwing his key into /dev/null, is ~also~ a productive-use-of-bitcoin
asciilifeform: as i see it, saner tools lead to more http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth - ing, and faster death for enemy
mircea_popescu: because at age 6 the difference between you and average had unfolded to a term of x, whereas in a further four years it had unfolded to a further y, x ^ n as it may be.
mircea_popescu: as things go on, the quality ratchets, and lo and behold : bioscum that was still functional by yest's criteria is no longer apt today.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the reason she stated primes as 6k+-1 is because 80% of numbers are divisible by 2 or 3, and it makes no sense to check them.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 00:22 mircea_popescu wonders idly if they even teach e's sieve these days. prolly too "high level" math for the "Real world" as imagined by eloy ortiz oakley.
mircea_popescu: aaand rsa early spec updated as per http://trilema.com/2017/tmsr-rsa-spec-extremely-early-draft/#comment-122689
valica: ty for voicing me, mircea_popescu. I will create a pgp key as soon as I will have something to say.
asciilifeform: the 1 electric-engined plane that lifted a man, hangs in the museum here, as a curiosity
asciilifeform: 'not yet detectable saturnism' dun mean 'harmless dose'. just as 'not yet acute radiation sickness' dun mean 'lower gamma does 0'
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 00:22 mircea_popescu wonders idly if they even teach e's sieve these days. prolly too "high level" math for the "Real world" as imagined by eloy ortiz oakley.
mircea_popescu: there's no way to make a dead hooker bounce as pleasantly as a live one. that said, vacuum pack away.
ben_vulpes: hah as if
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make this matter plain as i suspect it has ample potential for misunderstanding :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in point of fact you could buy lead acetate pills ("apa de plumb") in ro as of 1980s.
mike_c: save it as .py
Birdman: mike_c on windows i think i needed to save it as a '.pyc' which makes it a compiled python file, though it says 'runtimeerror: bad magic number in .pyc file'
Birdman: mike_c thanks very much! one last question though as im pretty illiterate: i downloaded python for winbl0wz, i save that text in the paste to a text file with name, i run python get the command line, what would i type from there specifically? also do i need to unzip files to run it on?
mircea_popescu: phf me either, but he keeps pretending as if, so what's it cost to believe.
phf: i wasn't a rich imperialist at the time, but freebsd was quite pleasant on a 300mhz amd, i used it as main os for a long time, until, yeah, 2002 or so. this is also when i switched to mac os x, which was perhaps a mistake. i suspect these people made their own deals with devil
asciilifeform: flip off switch, and it is same as it came from factory.
phf: i like how tropical bathrooms are usually made as a sealed concrete boxes (i guess mediterranean variation would have nice tiles on top, like a greek bathhouse or hamami). no hidden crevices for mold, etc. BUT probably also better for any kind of situation that requires iron rings in walls
ben_vulpes: "As soon as you connect your Trezor to a power source such as a computer, without entering any PIN codes or opening any websites, the Trezor device firmware by itself fills the SRAM with all your sensitive secret information."
mircea_popescu: sadly haiti got washed out to sea so i'll never really know, but as far as i know i am the master of all rum.
Birdman: kk, there are multiple games that will have slightly different info but far as it goes i think if it works on one it works on all. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxJVxgh4RQyoenBUc3VsNzh5Qzg/view
asciilifeform: not only that, but the sync mechanism is still same as it was in 2011 -- thing speaks to 1 node at a time, selected at ~random, and if the other end is a tard it can loop theoretically forever
Birdman: obviously this needs to be found as you can see the missing seat also ends up having all that seats contributed money to that hand go missing
mircea_popescu: in other news, venezuelan rum is almost as good as venezuelan cunt.
mircea_popescu wonders idly if they even teach e's sieve these days. prolly too "high level" math for the "Real world" as imagined by eloy ortiz oakley. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: random lisa kudrow gets to spend a few weeks under the stars listening to the desperate screams (phrased as a quesiton, of course) of her elders, then it's her turn.
mircea_popescu: and in other ustardian sads : this gringo has a dog. he refers to the dog as she, and got it a pink collar and everything. it got flipped on its back while playing with a puppy (which, at six weeks old, is way the fuck more dominant, and generally rounded than the gringo's misfortunate mongrel) and lo! penis. ballsac.
diana_coman: diffed it and it seems to be same as PeterL's
mircea_popescu: just tee it to file / use screen and copy screen log as a standard practice when fighting build gnarl
mircea_popescu is so fucking thrilled to see "tools runs perfectly" lasting as long as it takes the fucktards to make a new version of whatever "os" package ;/
mod6: as opposed to:
asciilifeform: sorta how a kg of shit in your latrine is same as 1.1, but even 10g on your birthday cake is conspicuously sad.
mircea_popescu: as all the things we don't know about don't exist, the choice is a no brainer yes.
asciilifeform: i suspect that this type of 'bonsai kitten' is created by the ill-conceived half-education purveyors. as per mircea_popescu's talk at c3 re pediwikians
mircea_popescu: anyway, as best i can discern a major problem is that the people who WANT to do something about it are rarely the people who CAN.
mircea_popescu: as they lack the ability to correctly recognize the imanence of transcendents and say "well, in order for maximal government to live up to the name it'll have to be bitcoin, rather than usg", they're "safe".
mircea_popescu: (there's two kinds of fandom rebellion, as far as the producers are concerned. fixable and unfixable. as the latter accumulate franchises die)
mircea_popescu: (as far as beat cop is concerned, there's a very marked difference between "this guy is a drunk!!" "uh... who is this woman ?" on one hand and "this guy is a drunk!" "oh yeah, well you're a whore!" on the other hand.)
mircea_popescu: well he's unreadable, but anyway, this guy seemed very incensed by him in the strangest of ways : as if what the dood made sense, and he disagreed.
r0nin-: The most pure form of anti-realist value is distilled and concentrated human subjective evaluation: value with no object. The only thing more pure than gold would be nothing at all, but of course even the most ardent anti-realist cannot escape from objective reality. Because he cannot store pure concentrate of human will in a vault, the anti-realist stores gold; because at least as an historical
mircea_popescu: but, let it be noted that as i was eating a savarine writing it, it chiefly is a savarin preable.
r0nin-: nice pre-amble. so we are advocating liberalism as the ideal ?
ave1: I did it like so: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6dEzs/?raw=true, but as it is order more complex I would not recommend it
mircea_popescu: as poer that lulzy http://trilema.com/2017/because-thats-just-how-things-are/
mircea_popescu: this is generally the problem statists encounter : since their operative definition of government is ideal ("that thing we made") as opposed to real ("that thing which exists") they have trouble understanding how bitcoin can destroy governments while governments can't regulate bitcoin.
asciilifeform: somehow a centralized spamola token that can be magicked into existence in arbirary quantity, is 'same' as bitcoin ?
r0nin-: bitcoin is exactly the same thing as 'in-game currency'
asciilifeform: r0nin-: 'also true of in-game currency' did your mother drop you as a baby? or feigning retardation ?
r0nin-: Furthermore, while it is true that Bitcoin may be regarded as an item of value by one or more people, this also is true of the in-game currency of each and every single one game ever released to this date and to be released for the conceivable future.
r0nin-: https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/cryptocurrency-as-cuck-finance-or-promises-made-by-pokemon/
mircea_popescu: and weaponry is to be used as per fucking manual and design, not obliquely wtf.
asciilifeform could perhaps qualify as a championship miser if he were richer
mircea_popescu: the ustards tried, with their golden toilets. didn't work out for them. meanwhile irl i still pack the new girls two to an apartment, as per http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/
asciilifeform: ain't as if people were born with 32bit cpu stuffed up their arses, neh
asciilifeform: on fpga even 32768-bit rsa is as snappy as you could want
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nevertheless, there is an optimal bullet per target, and nobody makes the calibre twice as big. if not because their mind works enough to understand why not, then because the very sad experience of the nazis illustrates why the fuck not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is EXACTLY not the case. i am saying "7.62 is sufficient, because it will blow a hole through man, as result of interplay of actual universal constants" and you are saying "yes but 15.2 would be bigger".
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as man-made transcendent.
mircea_popescu: if THAT isn't practical, then sure as fuck larger keys aren't practical.
mircea_popescu: because expensive as it may be, it is WAY the fuck cheaper to make good pipe than to make thicker pipe to cover for all the leaks due to it being shitty pipe.
mircea_popescu: yes, but my point here is that it is perhaps a defensible heuristic, but not defensible reasoning, to expect that just because p, q and p*q are coupled in that manner, any application to do with their coupling therefore informs you as to p or q.
mircea_popescu: in exchange you get two things : you get 2x the size of message blocks (an advantage that is actually a disadvantage as now you're using 1kb udp packets which is i expect margionalkly worse than 2 512s) ; and you get a harder rsa (an advantage which is no sort of advantage, the 4096 rsa is already harder than the extant universe)
mircea_popescu: and specifically re 8192 : if you use that, all the crypto operations take twice as long. this is a certain cost.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 16:03 mod6: my question is then; with regards to the tmsr-rsa rough-sketch spec, do we then entertain the idea of other key-lengths, no just 4096 as currently outlined?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698837 << in this, as in all cases. except periodic hygiene means taking woman's baby and crushing its skull against a rock now and again. which is to say : hygiene cost is personal, culling cost is socialized. guess what "individual" "agents" are going to choose ? (support material : ☝︎
mircea_popescu: heck, ffa ~should~ probably be distributed as literate code.
mircea_popescu: offer it as blog article for now.
asciilifeform: and i've thought about offering the commented code as dead tree for aficionados
mircea_popescu: valica_ i would teach crypto as a graduate level item for the top of the class in math and kids from physics who test in. and nobody else.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 14:22 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698796 << i assumed he was speaking of socialisms as a whole
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'm not sold on the 2^n thing as of yet -- it doesn't seem to win at all, other than (possibly) on readability
a111: Logged on 2017-08-15 21:41 asciilifeform: and this also means as few 'magic numbers' as it is physically possible to get away with.
mod6: my question is then; with regards to the tmsr-rsa rough-sketch spec, do we then entertain the idea of other key-lengths, no just 4096 as currently outlined? ☟︎
mod6: hmm. so let's say, for instance, that you figure out how to make the 2^n version the same as the 64 width classic version -- performance-wise.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 07:41 mircea_popescu: the only problem with rthis view being that there's no such thing as "evils of the past".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698796 << i assumed he was speaking of socialisms as a whole ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, usians are about as nazi as they're aztec. or hittite. srsly now, there's 0 relation.
mircea_popescu: the only problem with rthis view being that there's no such thing as "evils of the past". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: vils with new names as the only difference just because some _morons_ can’t learn from the past."
mircea_popescu: for the same money as confusing bitcoin and usglade i might confuse andrew anglin for michael moore.
mod6: that should be fine. there was a fella in here about a week ago with the same problem as you're having/
mod6: mike_c: did you get all of the vpatches, seals, and other things as described in the Howto?
asciilifeform: and as always reader is presumed to count
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 14:12 asciilifeform: one hint -- look at 'screw' as a modular congruence
asciilifeform: ( as optimization )
mircea_popescu: this is so necessarily, as a converse statement of its strength.
mircea_popescu: it dun have to be mpfhf so much as i'd like a GOOD alt.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's ~whole argument is 'leave as much rsa a matter for pubkey maker as physically possible'