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midnightmagic: If the others never ship, asicminer will have enough hash to 50%, and asic doomsday will happen.
mircea_popescu: these guys literally go around convinced they're personally like 60-70% of reality
Bugpowder: 2.8% dividend
Ukto: gonna do 50% tonight
Ukto: we have been buying abotu 25% every night
jurov: if ti will be 50% or not
jurov: i'm looking forward to the day when i'll gleefully post this to reddit: http://live.coinbr.com/images/Reddit_20121016_Trading%20on%20biggest%20bitcoin%20stock%20exchange%20now%20easy.png
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mircea_popescu: well it's what it is, practically. whoever is owner has 50% + the voting share.
Namworld: The way I see it, it's just 5%. Gets him more BTC/USD aside. If SD keeps going like it is, he still got a large %. If it doesn't, he has money put aside.
jcpham: it's looking like -%10 Amazon for BTC right now otc
jurov: what 20% you pay 1.2BTC for 1MPExBTC?
Bugpowder: for a 20% gain
gigavps: over 50% of claims are from outside the US
pigeons: set a future date when more shares are available, and say the price will be X % of X-day moving average
truffles: and why is it that evoorhees holds 89%?
pigeons: its too much damn hassle paying lenders out of my 10% weekly profits, let's do "trust accounts"
evoorhees: only 49.999% or whatever
evoorhees: I can't sell 50% on mpex
pigeons: oh i didnt know that. ithought all mpex stocks were non voting shares enforced by keeping 51% of the shares private
jcpham: bitvps was 100% public
evoorhees: but yes me and several others own the (now 89%) of S.DICE that is not on MPEX
evoorhees: Actually... consider that another private owner may have sold me more than 5%, and thus I actually increased my position
evoorhees: SD is a gambling site, it earns 1.9%, easy
evoorhees: further, as I've mentioned, there are a few private holders. Don't assume that this 5% is from me.
evoorhees: eskimo - releasing 5% of the shares on mpex is hardly "dumping"
aiball: juror - do you have one of those blockchain.info urls for sdice 50% I tried to replace the address but not getting a chart
jurov: if MPOE makes 5% , each share liquidates on 0.105 . if it loses 10%, each share gets 0.09 only
jurov: so if you got 0.1005 in the end of the month, that would mean that MPOE net profit was only 0.5%
pigeons: jurov: can you do a quick for dummies on CoinBr.MPBPT-E? 0.1005 implies 5% MPBOR? Do we need to know what you bid at to know what number to expect?
mjr__: public float increases to 15%
topace_: of his 90%? so now, like 11% are on the market? and 89% are "private" ?
mjr__: my only point was that if you were bearish on the stock and trying to get out of the horrible position of making upwards of 30% dividends, then yes you lost
mjr__: 32.69% to be exact
mjr__: i believe the spread is over 30%
pigeons: price has been about 4% monthly yield
ThickAsTh: last div was what 10% or so?
mjr__: so i think to increase the float by 50% you need to expect a certain amount of volatility but it will be good in the long run
maximian: yes, and he should have done it the was MP does it - buy offering them at a small % higher than the market price
maximian: for me, it's because I didn't like seeing my s.dice portfolio drop 40% in an instant
mjr__: If someone gives out 100% of profits...
Diablo-D3: maybe I should just guarantee something like 5% APY over a 10 year period
Bowjob: umm, its more than 10% under earlier
mircea_popescu: so, if they can go 10% over they should be ok with 10% under too neh ?
Bowjob: I got some 87% in english which means that my english has deteriorated somewhat
Bowjob: well, im not sure is 99% of the investors lose money investing
Diablo-D3: Bowjob: oh, so pigs represent the 99%?
mircea_popescu: so how come you're not one of the 85%
pigeons: yeah 1% on strongcoin
pigeons: mircea_popescu: that was originally gavin's company's whole business model, something like 1%-5% fees for strongcoin web wallet
jcpham: i'll buy your coins with paypal -10% and sell them to someone else for cash +25%
dub: Ukyo: this is surprising to you? He has destroyed entire chains by 51% them and blocking all transactions.
mircea_popescu: i bet you nickles to dollars that increasing the fee would simply increase the % of tx belonging to sd.
iz: or better yet, have the fees influence the % of payout slightly
Luke-Jr: 100% of Bitcoin users have agreed to financial transactions. There is no other such agreement in this context.
mircea_popescu: dude, fact of the matter is, the 99.8% miners that aren't you do mine it.
iz: to 100%
mircea_popescu: who ever heard of this bullshit even, guy does 2% of the hash, is going to establish whether the one aplication deriving actual use out of bitcoin dies or not.
mircea_popescu: you need to email your intended deposit and demanded % then send the btc
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mircea_popescu: .0008 is close to 10%
topace: the original thought process of making the units convertable, was tha tpeople might start buying on havelock with a low initial investment, and build up to the point that it'd be worth it for them to stop paying our 5% management fee and move their units direct to mpex
mjr_: they asked for s.dice at 2.7% higher than the best offer
topace: 5% is our "Fee" essentially for running the passthru
topace: oh, yes, for the S.DICE passthru, we pay out 95% of the dividend we receive from mpex
mjr_: i heard that they keep 5% or something
mjr_: yes i know...but they again just paid...almost 5% more than market
mjr_: .24% if i am going through coinbr
mjr_: so with 1.24% on mpoe... i can make .84% every trade by basically just filling market orders
mjr_: .2% or .5% is very small
Bugpowder: changees fee structure to take 40%
mjr_: i think the main way to do this would be with the options...the spreads are regularly 33%-50%
mjr_: although currently i am running it with .5% to ttest
mjr_: as long as you are getting more than .4% (buy and sell) you are making money...
mjr_: 1.22% spread...what is the bot doing?
Bugpowder: I'm taking a break from bot dev for a few weeks. I had good news in the job hunt process and need to devote 99% of my attention there.
mjr_: .5% is like bond rates now
mjr_: 10% is unheard of for a bond
Namworld: the 98.156% one xD
mjr_: down to 2.92%
mjr_: back now at .5% is that wrong?
mjr_: mpoe up to 1.17%
mjr_: also mpoe...but only with .541 %
mjr_: 5.58%
thestringpuller: directly from jurov though "I want 50%"
thestringpuller: For that reason last year a London bank processor went offline for 2 hours and 90% of the population were unable to make any withdrawals or deposits...
mircea_popescu: 5 points (69% like it)
mircea_popescu: you send X btc, you receive 9x% of x back 100% of time
mircea_popescu: evoorhees do you suppose something like a 100% win address for sdice would be a good idea ?
gesell: pigeons: i think im missing the "you didnt make prof until you buy again". sorry i feel stupid here but could you explain why i have to buy again. i took cash, put it in btc, got cash back + %2, and one week later got that cash in my hand
pigeons: at the highest teir 1/2% they go lower
jborkl: Gox is only. . 1/2%
pigeons: all the usd deposit and withdrawal methods at btce are 7-8% and they are never that much lower than gox, whoever
pigeons: bitinstant ends up being 7-8% round trip
pigeons: you need about 10% price difference usually to arb, causeends up being a good 7-8% moving usd from one exchange to another
mjr_: and it hasn't moved 20% today
mircea_popescu: .1% when btc moves 20% in a day ?
mjr_: think its .1% if you add -.4% if you take
mircea_popescu: what % is it ?
Namworld: Wow. That's a huge crash. 2% under face value