Namworld: Last hour before I remove the ask on S.DICE-PT
Bugpowder: EskimoBob, you know that if you are selling you should be PROMOTING the stock until you exit your position, right?
Namworld: Erhm, how would that help you sell them?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069386 = 2.3938 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068703 = 2.9687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00068681 = 0.638 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Namworld: Unless you just bought some at 0.0062?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 789 @ 0.00611994 = 4.8286 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3221 @ 0.00069997 = 2.2546 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2508 @ 0.00069998 = 1.7555 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 771 @ 0.00069998 = 0.5397 BTC [+]
smickles: there are only, really, 2 good choices, imo
smickles: heh, yeah, too much hardcore minecraft
smickles: (lol, i even expected it to tab-complete minecraft)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 2 @ 0.16938766 = 0.3388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.679 = 6.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068707 = 2.9688 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12779 @ 0.00068681 = 8.7767 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.17544034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069982 = 3.0239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1440 @ 0.00069998 = 1.008 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00069998 = 5.0063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 794 @ 0.00069999 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
Namworld: EskimoBob: it's on BTCT.co, name S.DICE-PT
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069965 = 3.0232 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00069998 = 1.2453 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.67 = 6.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.17541191 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Yeah, do that...convince multimillion dollar companies to trust you with their shares, make a secure system, garner a large enough user base to provide liquidity. Sounds like that would be a lot easier than paying 30 BTC"
mjr_: i am allowing you tochoose my product or not
mjr_: stop extorting me bro
mjr_: seriously, 3 to 4 mill to get on NYSE
mjr_: and i don't think they had pretty UI on those terminals
mjr_: and if anyone has ever tried to use FIX...mpex is a LOT easier
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 1 @ 0.175386 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "lol, what alternatives are there" "Colored coin, once its working correctly."
mircea_popescu: this has got to be like... liberal logic or something.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069274 = 2.9933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.0006924 = 4.3621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068682 = 3.4341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 586 @ 0.00068681 = 0.4025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1653 @ 0.00068681 = 1.1353 BTC [-]
mjr_: oh, sorry we sent that reject, you set your tag 55 to mpex
mjr_: but i am not stupid
mjr_: i think there are dumb people all around
mjr_: political leanings aside
mjr_: this is why i like bitcoins though, if you are liberal you can appreciate empowering people...if you are conservative you can appreciate good fiscal policy
mjr_: bill and melinda gates foundation's new push is to move towards a cashless society
mjr_: because it will help to stop poverty
mjr_: they have different ideas about it than bitcoin, but this is an idea whose time has come
dub: we always new billy boy was teh antichrist
mjr_: i think they specifically mean, stop governments from stealing from their people
mircea_popescu: poverty is great : without poor people there's absolutely no way to explain to idiot kids frittering their time on reddit why this is a bad idea.
mjr_: and make sure the aid gets where we meant it to go
jborkl: yes, that is what i was thinking
mjr_: but seriously, corrupt governments rely on their control of the currency
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 170 @ 0.0062 = 1.054 BTC [+]
mjr_: take that away and the people have a much stronger footing
jborkl: and when in the history of man has this been elimintated
mjr_: but we have never had a currency like bitcoin
dub: people have it so backwards, when we give aid to africa we are simply repaying some of the AIDS they gave us
mjr_: yes, i have never seen a black swan so therefore i never will see one
mjr_: every record setting earthquake could not have been predicted using the past
mjr_: since they are by definition the largest earthquake on record
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00069258 = 3.6014 BTC [+]
mjr_: my point being that although we can learn from history, to think that it contains all we need to know is obviously false
mircea_popescu: mjr_ it doesn't contain it in fact. it contains it in essence.
mjr_: has there ever been an empire that avoided collapse in response to its treatment of its citizens?
dub: mircea_popescu: you ain't seen me troll boa
jborkl: History repeats itself, always
Bugpowder: well looks like the S.DICE action settled down
mircea_popescu: the mobile vulgus of today, herpderping on reddit, is the exact same mobile vulgus of 20 ad
mjr_: so that is why we got those computers the cavemen invented AGAIN
Bugpowder: 450k sold and another 700k flashed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069362 = 2.9971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4008 @ 0.00069347 = 2.7794 BTC [-]
jborkl: lol, yes some caveman was talking shit a long time ago...
mjr_: to say that computers were expected based on history...or that they didn't change the world...is just not possible
mjr_: so no, not everything is cyclical
jborkl: you don't understand. not invention, history
mjr_: and i am saying if you think that you have seen everything that life can possibly throw at you...expect to be surprised
mjr_: people will be people
mjr_: but if you are a rational person...people respond to incentive and disincentive...
jborkl: No, I am not suprised- I expect people to do shitty things
mjr_: and those will forever change in ways we can't predict
mjr_: you are welcome to your opinion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069976 = 3.0237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11929 @ 0.00069998 = 8.3501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00069998 = 1.715 BTC [+]
jborkl: People killed,scammed and did the same shitty things 1000 years ago..they will do so again
mjr_: but i think that yes, people will always be people, there will be shitty people, stupid people, evil people, good people, smart people
mjr_: they also did nice things then and now
mjr_: but does the life they live, what they do and how they do it not change?
mjr_: for example HOW we treat others like shit
mjr_: it used to take years for a caveman to be able to troll another guy on the other side of the country
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5692 @ 0.00069347 = 3.9472 BTC [-]
mjr_: now we cn do it in seconds
jborkl: people do not change, I have tried for 20 years seeing it. A reformed meth head, will be a meth head again -almost all the time
mjr_: you proved my point
mjr_: "almost all the time"
mircea_popescu: jborkl i have seen people change first hand. it involves chains and whips tho.
mjr_: but the way i see it
mjr_: is that at the end of the day
mjr_: the one with the force is the one with the most peolpe
mjr_: cuz of armies? police?
mjr_: they have to be paid...
mircea_popescu: nah. peopl;e are practically made out of two halves. there's a beast within
mjr_: bad finances equals no army, no police
mjr_: but you can still treat people decently...everyone here has been very nice
mircea_popescu: even if the person agrees with you, the subconsciouis needs to be straightened too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6841 @ 0.0006912 = 4.7285 BTC [-]
mjr_: it is like baseball
mjr_: most teams will lose 60 games and win 60 games
jborkl: No, people are always going to be violent. It is the way of the world. Ask Sierra Leone
mjr_: its what happens in those other 42 games that really matter
mjr_: so yes, on the whole, people are bad and good, but in that zone in between, there is room for growth and change, and that can inspire or disappoint
mjr_: and sure people will be violent...
mjr_: but i have one question
jborkl: I am not going to argue right and wrong. That is a fallacy, because it is the perception of right and wrong to the individual
mjr_: how many people got shot because of gun violence on silk road?
mjr_: no "deals going bad"
mjr_: we can become safer
mjr_: and minimize the abiltiy of others to harm us
jborkl: You are not looking at how they got the money for drugs, most drug dealers don't get shot peddling drugs and I don't really care if they do
mjr_: the point is not to say the system is good or bad, the point is to say that i can thrive in the system as it is
jborkl: I can't even remember what we are talking about
mjr_: but i enjoyed the convo
mjr_: i think we in general agree tbh
mjr_: we just focus on different parts
dub: drug dealers are people too bro
mjr_: i agree there will always be poverty, shitty people, crime, violence
mjr_: but i think there will also be innovation, beauty, happiness
jborkl: I do not pass judgment on what people do, they understand risk involved. So I do not feel compassion
mjr_: so i focus on maximizing one, and minimizing the other
mjr_: i wish i had bought that straddle from bugpowder
jborkl: I figure it is their problem if they can't handle their business
mjr_: i think it is gonna just bumble around 21 for a week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00068684 = 3.4342 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00068683 = 1.3393 BTC [-]
thepok: thay was an rather stupid bt funny vid
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1086 @ 0.0062 = 6.7332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069694 = 3.0115 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1299 @ 0.00069727 = 0.9058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2371 @ 0.00068683 = 1.6285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4647 @ 0.00068682 = 3.1917 BTC [-]
Bowjob: look at those havelock bids
jurov: so did evoorhees say when? same time?
DeadWeasel: i see 58,000 shares asking .0062 on bitfunder...
jurov: I will do the next tranche at roughly the same time tomorrow (Wed. evening 10pm EST). Price will be .0062 per share this time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 353 @ 0.00068682 = 0.2424 BTC [-]
jurov: presumably on MPEx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3347 @ 0.00068681 = 2.2988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 213 @ 0.00068656 = 0.1462 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068621 = 2.9651 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006862 = 6.862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5266 @ 0.00068619 = 3.6135 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i dunno exactly why i didnt push all the coins in at 44
kakobrekla: perhaps i got a stroke and half of my brain is dead.
Bugpowder: I would have bought half the stack
Bowjob: He'll drop 3 million shares more
Bowjob: I wonder if that will actually drop down the price post ipo
Bowjob: since the supply have increased..
Bowjob: the 7xx was fueled by its scarcity partly
Bugpowder: only thing that will drop the price is falling bet volumes
Bugpowder: price is down right now only cause people know drop is coming at .0062
Bowjob: mhm, the volumes going up so far steadily, our little whale seems to have taken a break
Bugpowder: Well, I think the whale lost all his coins
Bowjob: well, the whale was the one who jacked up the dice's price
Bugpowder: Watch some new addresses spring up after the tranches selling out ;-)
Bowjob: we need more whales and his buddies
Bowjob: someone advertise on rich kids of instagram
Bowjob: they seem to have no problems opening a bottle of dom to wash something, may as well play dice to get moar monies
Bowjob: soon enough we can all take a pic of our wallets and post it on rkoi lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00069249 = 3.6009 BTC [+]
mjr_: although no spikes from whales, total bets still increasing steadily?
jurov: like rkoi would understand such nerdiness
mjr_: i would prefer steady sustainable growth
Bowjob: well, i dont think s.dice is sustainable with btc price rocketing at this rate
Bowjob: i mean, lets say btc shooots up to the moooon
mjr_: they can make smaller bets
mjr_: but that is still just as good
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00069249 = 0.277 BTC [+]
mjr_: since the stock is denominated in btc
mjr_: oh sorry, i keep thinking about how i will show the total portfolio gains in USD
Bowjob: yeah but i doubt the volume will go that high if btc goes to 500
mjr_: which will be killer regardless
mjr_: i don't think i will worry too much if btc goes that high
mjr_: but the fact remains
jurov: Bugpowder was throwing some nice curves around
mjr_: small bet worth big dollars = big bet worth small dollars
mjr_: not that i want dollars
jurov: even mpoe-pr asked permission to use them
mjr_: i am going as long as possible bitcoins
mjr_: where can i see those?
mjr_: are you talking graphs?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006863 = 2.9655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.0006862 = 4.6174 BTC [-]
mjr_: they posted anywhere?
mjr_: i'm still blown away by girlsgonebitcoin
mjr_: that was really fast
jurov: but don't remember where
mjr_: that site springing up and girls knowing about and wanting bitcoins
mjr_: think that was a lot rarer a year ago
Bowjob: if girls can want bitcoin, then rkoi can undertstand them
mjr_: very tech centric (which usually means male centric) user base
jurov: oooh old news. i was hoping for some juicy details
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2265 @ 0.0006862 = 1.5542 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14879 @ 0.00068619 = 10.2098 BTC [-]
mjr_: yeah sorry to disappoint
mjr_: tell me someone else collects rich kids instagram...and they don't knowingly put it themselves on a site called rich kids of instagram
Bowjob: no they knowingly put themselves in there
Bowjob: you can also advertise on rich kids of instagram for 500 dollars per 2 days
jurov: we're not fo far from that, really
Bowjob: yeah i seen that. that dude lost a bunch of monies
jurov: in fact, i get bigger commissions that that
mjr_: i didn't wnt to do the math
mjr_: was that whne it hit 700?
Bowjob: The said part is the waiter touched the plate with his fingers causing some prints
mjr_: yes...but isn't that why we are all here
mjr_: so that our kids can have the opportunity to be on RKOI that we may have not gotten?
Bowjob: i just hope btc dont shoot up to the moon while i still have dice shares
mjr_: you want to know whats funny?
mjr_: on seals with clubs
Bowjob: i fear the dice will be left behind
mjr_: they don't know how much btc costs
mjr_: think they get freerolls (a bunch of them do anyway)
mjr_: some would not know how to buy
Bowjob: 1 btc = 200 dollars 1.5 years from now.
Bowjob: people wont bet the same stake with btc
Bowjob: the prob, is we already paid 0.xx62 with dice
Bowjob: we may get return dollar wise, but not btc wise
Bowjob: it all depends if dice can keep up with btc
mjr_: that is true and i hadn't thought about that
jurov: in 1.5 years you may as well get back the full s.dice investment
Bowjob: im not sure if 20k a month is sustainable
Bowjob: the prob is 21 million btc, dice is already worth 600k
mjr_: guess RKOI didn't have this guy as a dad
aiball: a single poker table makes 20k a month
mjr_: i personally think it is going to balance out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068657 = 2.9667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00068667 = 11.3301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1622 @ 0.00069016 = 1.1194 BTC [+]
Bowjob: and im not sure if the general public would be interested in playing dice.. everyone i know is broke
mjr_: anyways, gotta run guys
mjr_: see you later tonight
dub: those are poor kids with rich frinds posting that shit
dub: why would you bother if you were actually rich
mjr_: i would say it's cheaper than taking out an ad in "i'm a douche magazine" but oh yeah, their rich, they dont' have to worry about that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068621 = 2.9651 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.0006862 = 7.8426 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2791 @ 0.00068684 = 1.917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 531 @ 0.0006862 = 0.3644 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 60 @ 0.0007 = 0.042 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068999 = 2.9814 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10377 @ 0.00069016 = 7.1618 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00069444 = 8.6458 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11851 @ 0.00069727 = 8.2633 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00069833 = 10.7543 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00069891 = 16.3894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3136 @ 0.00069998 = 2.1951 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6841 @ 0.00069998 = 4.7886 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9647 @ 0.00069998 = 6.7527 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10353 @ 0.00069998 = 7.2469 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8994 @ 0.00069998 = 6.2956 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86779 @ 0.00069999 = 60.7444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 796401 @ 0.0007 = 557.4807 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.0007 = 0.007 BTC
jurov: someone is arbing S.MPOE-PT?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3497 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.338 = 1.014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0062 = 0.124 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.3497 = 3.1473 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.339 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0098 = 0.098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0699 BTC
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066705 / 0.0006913 / 0.0007 (3786811 shares, 2,617.85 BTC), 7D: 0.00064676 / 0.00067984 / 0.0007 (17598878 shares, 11,964.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066287 / 0.0007 (64477504 shares, 42,740.59 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068643 = 2.9661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 179 @ 0.0006862 = 0.1228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0006887 = 3.3058 BTC [+]
jurov: you expected these reddit hers to achieve some result?
thestringpuller: I didn't think anything. I was curious to see how the investors would react to it.
jcpham: to whatever thisw new drama is
jcpham: they still call you shady
mircea_popescu: somehow random douche is CONVINCED that 30 btc is too much for everyone. total btc cap might as well be 35
mircea_popescu: same thing : network output is 25th. luke does 0.120 th
jcpham: it's difficult for me to attribute moral things to bitcoin
jcpham: when in essence the blockchain is god
mircea_popescu: but a simple problem of perception. a two ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut
jcpham: the web seems sortof clique-ish to me
mircea_popescu: these guys literally go around convinced they're personally like 60-70% of reality
thestringpuller: you need significant capital to play the market on mpex these days anyways
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0006879 = 2.8204 BTC [-]
jurov: maybe can be done with enough food paint
jurov: we should try sometime
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.0006879 = 2.1469 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2517 @ 0.0006862 = 1.7272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6762 @ 0.00068619 = 4.64 BTC [-]
jurov: no, the best things in life are free
thestringpuller: i feel like if it didn't take an elaborate date to get laid that would be true
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00068619 = 1.1322 BTC [-]
jurov: eskimobob should scream now "MP is corrupting its puppets with porn!!!"
topace_: so, predictions for 2 hours from now? sell out as fast? or a little slower this time? we're not that much under what the market was at before all this starte
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <smickles> (lol, i even expected it to tab-complete minecraft)
jurov: ofc, porn is for real boys
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6473 @ 0.00068619 = 4.4417 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dear Wikipedia readers: We are the small non-profit that runs the #5 website in the world. We have only 150 staff but serve 450 million users
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 450 @ 0.0062 = 2.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.127 = 1.143 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.128 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.689 = 6.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2670 @ 0.00068619 = 1.8321 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00068149 = 6.7127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 780 @ 0.00067993 = 0.5303 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00068738 = 2.7839 BTC [+]
jurov: Consider any or all of theymos is hit by a bus, the forum admin account is hacked, return addresses that were previously given are now compromised, the domain is seized or hacked and transferred, kalyhost is raided, mtgox decides to disappear with their money, etc. Who is the benefactor who can receive back the money; should the treasurers be able to conspire to spend to start a new forum, etc.
mircea_popescu: mkay, i hope everyone who wanted btc in has had the sense to send it already,
Namworld: Note to all: I just added MPEx receipt link on the MPEx pass-through contract page on BTCT.co
Namworld: I will make sure to keep it updated.
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0060539 / 0.00632396 / 0.00677999 (950650 shares, 6,011.88 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00579402 / 0.007395 (3557832 shares, 20,614.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00530377 / 0.0075 (8622100 shares, 45,729.70 BTC)
Namworld: Someone dropped 700k just before evoorhees
Namworld: no doubt someone cashing out one of the earlier slice
Namworld: Probably someone not interested in holding S.DICE long term.
Namworld: and the slice will stay there of course
mircea_popescu: in finance the advantage of announcing and the disadvantage of announcing are kinda hard to balance
Namworld: He found it amusing with yesterday selling so fast and today, far less.
mircea_popescu: he was all "o happy days" yest after 2nd tranche, i was thinking hm, i wonder if he gets introduced to the disadvantage side too
truffles: gonna rub em on my terts woooo lol
Namworld: We have someone really happy right there
truffles: there is this utube of this guy doing that..
truffles: namworld what did u have for breakfast today?
truffles: pretty close, whats on the menu
kakobrekla: truffles, maybe you should start in #bitcoin
Namworld: I'm used to the evening working schedule, starting work at 2-3 PM
Namworld: I eat a hearty breakfast some people won't call a breakfast... diner and breakfast are best switched around.
mircea_popescu: he means that this isn't really a socialising venue, unless you're a big time btc corp guy and we know you.
Bowjob: i admit that was a brilliant move
Bowjob: I could make the 25btc back in one trade with that. looks like i missed the train
truffles: nerds have nothing to say for long periods of time, dont worry kakobrekla
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068106 = 2.9429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5483 @ 0.00068102 = 3.734 BTC [-]
Bowjob: huh. i buy at 0,55 do a strategic dump
Bowjob: i was busy playing farcry 3 so i missed the action
Bowjob: well, havelock got around 200k shares
mircea_popescu: i like how mpoe is like... 67..70..69...68...69...70...69...68..67 etc
truffles: kakobrekla none is talking in #bitcoin, are you happy !
Bowjob: hey guys i've been wondering,, supose we turn out be millionaires due to bitcoin
Bowjob: how would you report it to government
Diablo-D3: Bowjob: oh, I wouldnt, I'd just buy a congress member to make it go away
Bowjob: and would they believe your story,
Bowjob: unfortunately im in canada.. i dont think our government is as corrupt
Bowjob: tho im sure there could be shills here and there
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.0007 = 0.0098 BTC
Bowjob: i checked. suppose my income was 3 mil. i'd be left with 1.5 mil after taxes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00068102 = 3.2253 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6314 @ 0.00068101 = 4.2999 BTC [-]
Bowjob: thats just 1 house in vancouver
Diablo-D3: how so? you have enough money to live the rest of your life.
Diablo-D3: sounds like a shithole anyhow if a house costs 1.5 m
Bowjob: too comfy here, i like the restaurants
Bowjob: its multicultural, but we have some really great restaurants.
Bowjob: I prefer japanese cuisine..
mircea_popescu: <Bowjob> how would you report it to government << you mean the ones who aren't millionaires already ?
truffles: other channel was discussing the merits of thai food couple days ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.0007 = 0.0098 BTC
Bowjob: mp, i meant. suppose we turn out to be millionairs and wanted to cash out
Bowjob: cashing out from BTC to cad is such a pain in the ass, im just sitting this one out
mircea_popescu: so you go to yurp, or russia, or saudi arabia, or india
Bowjob: then when i go back to canada?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068404 = 2.9557 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3956 @ 0.00068421 = 2.7067 BTC [+]
Bowjob: wealthy saudi businessman... mhm
truffles: its that easy to set up a business in a new country hmm
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3268 @ 0.00068421 = 2.236 BTC [+]
Namworld: Every now and then someone will want bitcoins
Bowjob: ive actually dunnit once
Namworld: get people to come ring at your door and hand you some cash
Bowjob: when btcc were 13 dollars each i sold 100 dollars worth to test it out
Namworld: With a bit of chance, if you do it enough, neighbors will start to think you're a dealer.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 164 @ 0.0061 = 1.0004 BTC [-]
Bowjob: to my excitement, i fucked up and released the btcs without getting the monies first
Bowjob: he/she sent me an emt anyways
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 148 @ 0.00606924 = 0.8982 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068105 = 2.9428 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51473 @ 0.00068101 = 35.0536 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Namworld lmao that will get you busted for dealing dope in about two weeks
Namworld: yeah, sadly it's a rare occurance.
Namworld: If there was more buyers and I had many weekly, maybe
Namworld: [05:22] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [-]
Namworld: [05:23] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
Namworld: So yeah, did someone just switch o.O
Namworld: I mean, at a loss. I don't really see the point.
Namworld: DeaDTerra has a great track record.
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63333601 / 0.70000000 (2485 shares, 1573.83999660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.65982067 / 0.89000000 (6149 shares, 4057.23727865 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.6233377 / 0.89000000 (9813 shares, 6116.81283260 BTC)
Namworld: If one is cheaper to buy at a certain moment, I can understand getting a bit of the two or selecting a prefered broker
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00068101 = 5.2097 BTC [-]
Bowjob: has anyone done any busking for bitcoins before?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12406 @ 0.00068101 = 8.4486 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.649 = 6.49 BTC [-]
Bowjob: 2013-02-07 02:28:05 715/715 ฿0.60000000 ฿429.0000
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00068101 = 5.1757 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0061 = 0.0488 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 44 @ 0.0062 = 0.2728 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.20000, Best ask: 21.26998, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 21.26998, 24 hour volume: 43201.89165334, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 21.18182
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 694 @ 0.00606009 = 4.2057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.006 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2498 @ 0.00068421 = 1.7092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5025 @ 0.00068504 = 3.4423 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.00068566 = 2.2469 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1913 @ 0.00068101 = 1.3028 BTC [-]
gesell: s.dice spreadsheet moved?
gesell: aaah, just the token changes (so yeah, new file)
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00068103 = 7.5254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6513 @ 0.00068103 = 4.4355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00068103 = 6.0612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00068103 = 6.5038 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00590933 = 2.9547 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 995 @ 0.0059 = 5.8705 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0059 = 0.295 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0058 = 5.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 955 @ 0.0058 = 5.539 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00068103 = 6.1633 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.0007 = 0.021 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00068141 = 2.8279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1044 @ 0.00068305 = 0.7131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00068306 = 2.9413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068106 = 2.9429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3129 @ 0.00068103 = 2.1309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00068103 = 11.4413 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0061 = 0.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1250 @ 0.0062 = 7.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.63 = 1.89 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10008 @ 0.00068103 = 6.8157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17863 @ 0.00068102 = 12.1651 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0011001 = 1.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0011 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.001001 = 5.005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 494 @ 0.00068306 = 0.3374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3653 @ 0.00068333 = 2.4962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1353 @ 0.00068442 = 0.926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 10000 @ 0.00083001 = 8.3001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1500 @ 0.0003 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [-]
jurov: i don't think these were original bbet IPO shares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 340 @ 0.00590933 = 2.0092 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I wonder if anyone has avalons they dont want
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00068102 = 13.995 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: will have some they don't want anymore
Diablo-D3: I guess I could pick them up cheap then =/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2127 @ 0.00068233 = 1.4513 BTC [+]
pigeons: yeah i plan to pick some up when buyers' credit card bills come in
Diablo-D3: I have the fucking money, why do they refuse to do business
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5805 @ 0.00068443 = 3.9731 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: I just sat in #bitcon-assets for 5 minutes. it was quiet in there... :/
DeadWeasel: then I was in bicoin-assets for 2 minutes. i should probably setup my config.
jurov: lol, is there so many people like here?
jurov: or you don't see the list by default?
Bugpowder: is bitcon assets for the scam offerings?
jurov: then it definitely wouldn't be quiet there when someone new arrives :D
truffles: seems like the snobby crowd hangs here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068438 = 3.6957 BTC [-]
jurov: truffles: didn't we earn the right to be a bit smug?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00068438 = 2.5664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 48 @ 0.00590933 = 0.2836 BTC [-]
jurov: ^ DeadWeasel that's the curves i mentioned yest
Bowjob: BTC shooting up to the moon?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 656 @ 0.00068438 = 0.449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11587 @ 0.00068102 = 7.891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4188 @ 0.0006809 = 2.8516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119 @ 0.00068072 = 0.081 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 6 @ 0.06 = 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1581 @ 0.00068072 = 1.0762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10169 @ 0.00068062 = 6.9212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00068062 = 1.6335 BTC [-]
jurov: Bowjob not yet, why?
Bowjob: just a feeling. I saw 21.63 flash on gox
Bowjob: i hope it doesnt shoot up too much, or dice may lose value
jurov: so far what i've seen mpoe is being cashed out first when btc goes up
jurov: but these new investors may behave differently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 781 @ 0.00068062 = 0.5316 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6678 @ 0.00067971 = 4.5391 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00067932 = 10.1898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00067925 = 0.631 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I'll let others try to figure out why
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00068026 = 4.6258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2172 @ 0.00067925 = 1.4753 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067922 = 2.9349 BTC [-]
pigeons: well i dont see why the usd price matters
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00067922 = 2.1103 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.27101, Best ask: 21.40999, Bid-ask spread: 0.13898, Last trade: 21.41998, 24 hour volume: 39902.02492274, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.43999, 24 hour vwap: 21.19806
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 697 @ 0.00590933 = 4.1188 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: how do I get the ticker for sdice> i'll do it in a private window... :)
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00590933 / 0.00633176 / 0.00677999 (889490 shares, 5,632.04 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00579156 / 0.007395 (3554009 shares, 20,583.27 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00530707 / 0.0075 (8584308 shares, 45,557.53 BTC)
jurov: !ticker have sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63230194 / 0.68999980 (2474 shares, 1564.31499660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.65971495 / 0.89000000 (6184 shares, 4079.67727865 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.62678441 / 0.89000000 (9621 shares, 6030.29283260 BTC)
assbot: Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke.
jurov: bitfunder G.SDICE 24h volume is 296BTC
jurov: ;;ticker btct S.DICE-PT
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
jurov: ;;ticker btctc S.DICE-PT
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
jurov: !ticker btctc S.DICE-PT
assbot: [BTCT:S.DICE-PT] 1D: 0.0061 / 0.0062 / 0.0062 (2600 shares, 16.1 BTC), 7D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC), 30D: 0.0061 / 0.01 / 0.0062 (4600 shares, 28.5 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067924 = 2.935 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.00067922 = 7.7968 BTC [-]
jurov: !ticker btctc gsdpt
assbot: [BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0058 / 0.0062 / 0.0062 (30906 shares, 190.1 BTC), 7D: 0.0045 / 0.01 / 0.0082 (120487 shares, 770.8 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0082 (151620 shares, 954.2 BTC)
jurov: !ticker btctc bitvps
assbot: [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30D: -- / 0.0 / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC)
jurov: lol they really threw it into shitter
jurov: only if they start paying divs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00067922 = 19.8332 BTC [-]
jurov: oh oh not so quick
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3395 @ 0.00068443 = 2.3236 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2968 @ 0.00068566 = 2.035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7837 @ 0.00068567 = 5.3736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00590933 = 7.0912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 565 @ 0.00590933 = 3.3388 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 35 @ 0.00598704 = 0.2095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00067926 = 2.717 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.621 = 1.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2252 @ 0.00068567 = 1.5441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00068718 = 1.9241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068898 = 2.9771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3827 @ 0.00068899 = 2.6368 BTC [+]
topace: its all of canadians faults?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00067926 = 0.218 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067923 = 2.935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4258 @ 0.00067922 = 2.8921 BTC [-]
jurov: it's running joke on reddit
jurov: that canadians always apologize
topace: oh, sorry didnt realize...
topace: uhh huh that'll last long
topace: as any major player has already realized, email transfers = fraud
topace: eg. virtex, canadianbitcoins
topace: when teh banks freeze their accounts for 2 weeks, itll be fun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068878 = 2.9762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00068899 = 1.4669 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.649 = 1.947 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 29 @ 0.00598704 = 0.1736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 471 @ 0.00606924 = 2.8586 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Interesting article on how soccer is f'ed.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.41101, Best ask: 21.53899, Bid-ask spread: 0.12798, Last trade: 21.41101, 24 hour volume: 41898.14339840, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.53900, 24 hour vwap: 21.21666
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067938 = 2.9356 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 608 @ 0.00067922 = 0.413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4348 @ 0.00067922 = 2.9532 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1852 @ 0.00067921 = 1.2579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00067921 = 6.9959 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.69000, Best ask: 21.87000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 21.87999, 24 hour volume: 45113.46106970, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 21.87999, 24 hour vwap: 21.25330
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00068649 = 2.6087 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068882 = 2.9764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00068899 = 3.1549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00067933 = 2.2078 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.88000, Best ask: 21.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 21.78100, 24 hour volume: 48213.18622376, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.00000, 24 hour vwap: 21.30338
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00067933 = 0.7276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8729 @ 0.00067921 = 5.9288 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I imagine every avalon has infact been sold
Diablo-D3: they added up all the money from the block chain
Diablo-D3: and it seems to come to all the units
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 91 @ 0.00606924 = 0.5523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0003 / 0.00086343 / 0.0011001 (19000 shares, 16.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091743 / 0.0015999 (20957 shares, 19.23 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00080035 / 0.0035 (2360520 shares, 1,889.27 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 609 @ 0.00607973 = 3.7026 BTC [+]
imsaguy: Somewhere on the forums, they also solved world peace.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3780 @ 0.00067921 = 2.5674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5339 @ 0.00067921 = 3.6263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5811 @ 0.00067915 = 3.9465 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068435 = 2.9571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7829 @ 0.00068443 = 5.3584 BTC [+]
awkorama_: not much, gathering together a team for my project now, so things are going well
mjr__: i am doing pretty much the same thing
awkorama_: is your project public? as in public in #bitcoin-assets ?
truffles: awkorama didnt say thanks for answering my questions earlier
awkorama_: no problem 1NYKTuqupnichX9ue91fcLhZohJvwzn43x
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5271 @ 0.00068443 = 3.6076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068485 = 2.9592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4647 @ 0.00068486 = 3.1825 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4789 @ 0.00067915 = 3.2524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3561 @ 0.00067914 = 2.4184 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2384 @ 0.00068486 = 1.6327 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: is it possible to move shares from bitfunder to havelock?
Diablo-D3: DeadWeasel: why bother, the only good exchange is bitfunder
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2669 @ 0.00068486 = 1.8279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068492 = 2.9595 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00068493 = 1.5068 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2010 @ 0.00068899 = 1.3849 BTC [+]
topace: Diablo-D3: i beg to differ
topace: DeadWeasel: yes, we'll accept incoming shares at havelock from other exchanges
DeadWeasel: evoorhees, hows this last tranche doing?
DeadWeasel: think it will get absorbed over the next few weeks?
evoorhees: last one sold in 30 seconds, this one not a share was touched
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.97001, Best ask: 22.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 21.90001, 24 hour volume: 52597.09968634, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.07000, 24 hour vwap: 21.37718
evoorhees: it's okay, at the end of the day if they don't sell I get the dividends
Bugpowder: 5MM BTC at ~.006 is on the order of 10MM at original IPO, and much higher in $ terms due to exchange rate movement. Maybe it's not that suprising in retrospect.
Bugpowder: I thought .0062 would sell through though
DeadWeasel: need some Satoshi Dice media frenzy. go generate some!
evoorhees: fuckin market likes to play tricks on people
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00067914 = 0.5161 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6123 @ 0.00067913 = 4.1583 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 337 @ 0.0062 = 2.0894 BTC [+]
evoorhees: sooo... probably 500,000 people heard of it yesterday
DeadWeasel: well, those people never heard of bitcoin before. So it's a big jump just to get BTCs then to even consider buying an SDICE share...
truffles: bet they wont know how sdice works still
truffles: evoorhees when can we expect the utube?
DeadWeasel: it would be weeks and weeks before any change is seen, then it is indistinguishable from other market movements.
evoorhees: oh haha I don't think those people will be bying s.dice shares anytime soon
evoorhees: but they are hearing about bitcoin, that's for sure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 623 @ 0.00607973 = 3.7877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0061948 = 6.1948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0061949 = 30.9745 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4153 @ 0.00619999 = 25.7486 BTC [+]
DeadWeasel: but those with BTCs already might. I think there needs to be a cleaner version of your monthly profit and associate dividends.
DeadWeasel: get people to talk about their dividends
evoorhees: how can the monthly profit be cleaner? it's an easy google spreadsheet available to all
DeadWeasel: You know, fonts, colors, make it look professional.
DeadWeasel: grab a NYSE pdf of their numbers, steal some formatting etc
DeadWeasel: the professional touch is not to be underestimated. people subconscious make more of the decision
DeadWeasel: they feel safe with professional looking documents
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.349 = 1.396 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: but only if you want to convert those heathen nonbelievers
evoorhees: no I agree, you're absolutely right about that
truffles: nominate deadweasel to do the utube!
evoorhees: I'm a marketing guy, so i understand that
evoorhees: but, I don't want to be marketing the s.dice asset over and above what it's legitimately worth, if that makes sense
DeadWeasel: I've seen you in videos and on interviews, you can talk the talk.
evoorhees: I'd rather it sit just below market value, than puff up a bubble with some marketing tricks int he presentation
awkorama_: these two lines combines make no sense at all
DeadWeasel: you don't have to lie, just make the truth pretty and digestible.
DeadWeasel: you're right, you should prepare all this and dump it out there when you get another media bubble.
DeadWeasel: all linked and fresh and prety with graphs and whatnot.
evoorhees: no I'm saying I don't want to do that
evoorhees: I don't want to make the asset frothy
ThickAsThieves: at this point i'm more interested in dice players than investors
truffles: briefly mention it at the end of video?
evoorhees: I think we all know how easily people dump money into unsubstantiated "opportunities" in bitcoin
DeadWeasel: you're right, players are more important
DeadWeasel: i haven't even seen it since the revamp
ThickAsThieves: that way, when us long investors are ready to take profits from sellin shares, investors will be paying a lot more
Bugpowder: betting volume is the only thing that matters
Bugpowder: plenty of people know about s.dice that have plenty of coin
Bugpowder: focusing on building the player base is probably the most important thing to focus on
DeadWeasel: it was the thrill that got me to spend my first few BTCs on sdice. the frenzy inside that drove me.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.3498 = 2.7984 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: and you can make more stable money from 100 small timers
DeadWeasel: you gotta catch new players when they buy their first BTCs.
DeadWeasel: maybe work with wallet services to market you to new accounts. that would be sweet.
DeadWeasel: your blockchain.info one is great, that thing is a BTC sucubus
ThickAsThieves: yeah, i do think the POV is, teach gamblers about bitcoin thru sdice, not the reverse
truffles: boo we dont need marketing, we need a utube how to!
topace: [11:35:36] <DeadWeasel> the professional touch is not to be underestimated. people subconscious make more of the decision
DeadWeasel: that's true, the ones driven away by the US laws.
topace: ^ that was our thought process as we developed havelock
topace: we weanted it to LOOK professional
DeadWeasel: give them a happy home before the other sites get organized and into BTC
topace: not look like mpex :p (no offense mp )
ThickAsThieves: topace: true, my first purchases were all at havelock because it was the easiest exchange to find and understand how to use
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2027 @ 0.00067913 = 1.3766 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006791 = 2.9344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00067878 = 6.6181 BTC [-]
topace: ThickAsThieves: awesome good to hear!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00067877 = 2.1042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27626 @ 0.00067854 = 18.7453 BTC [-]
truffles: make sdice website better for starters
ThickAsThieves: what about putting bitcoin: links on the addresses on the home page?
evoorhees: if anyone can make me a utube vid for sdice, please pm me
topace: evoorhees: so, 4th tranche? gonna hold off for a bit ?
topace: until last nights gets gobbled up?
ThickAsThieves: I could probably record the voiceover in my studio if I had a script
evoorhees: yeah 4th tranche is on hold for now
truffles: to write a script i would need to know what it was about..
evoorhees: well actually - I only want someone to do a vid if that person is really experienced with it.
evoorhees: not sure that person will be hangin out in the bitcoin-assets channel ;)
ThickAsThieves: i could do respectable graphics, but no I can't help with vid
DeadWeasel: get a college intern with a nice camera, youll find them in the AV club
truffles: yea hire a proper webdesigner..
evoorhees: truffles - link a good website, Id' like to see your preference
ThickAsThieves: social media buttons could be bette rplaced, but maybe they get used more in that spot
truffles: def puts me on the spot, i visit a lotta shit websites lol
truffles: i get to voice my dislike here
ThickAsThieves: heh, if i google "gamble online" first return is "FBI — Online Gambling Is Illegal"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00619999 = 31 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067874 = 2.9328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8207 @ 0.00067854 = 5.5688 BTC [-]
Luceo: Seals with clubs? :D
truffles: oh no too much clutter on there
ThickAsThieves: what other types of sites have to show a spreadsheet on the home page?
truffles: the how to page on sdice is okay, the main page too much green
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 48 @ 0.6255 = 30.024 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.625 = 1.25 BTC [-]
truffles: doesnt have to be as good as that
ThickAsThieves: after looking for a bit, sdice site has a better design than so many gambling related sites
truffles: cant find any other examples i forum too much
maximian: ervoorhees: what's in the pipeline in terms of s.dice marketing?
evoorhees: honestly it's getting way more marketing than I want, currently
evoorhees: I'll figure out some excellent marketing for it, but not until I've gotten some good legal advice on how to protect this thing
truffles: preventive steps to not get doj-ed?
evoorhees: would be bad for my investors if I got it super popular only to have it shut down
evoorhees: I think that's the most important thing right now
maximian: I have a feeling your lawyer is going to say "you're doing WHAT?!"
maximian: no, he should fly out of america tout de suite
evoorhees: there are US citizens and companies that operate online gambling businesses, but it has to be domiciled properly, usually licensed properly, and has to comply with some rules
evoorhees: so that's what I'm in the process of exploring
truffles: but ure in ireland or something right
maximian: You haven't converted a dime of the won BTC to fiat, correct?
truffles: if u were just a regular employee dont think it matters, but if ure the face maybe
maximian: because you can still argue that it's just play tokens
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068258 = 2.9494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9679 @ 0.00068262 = 6.6071 BTC [+]
maximian: If this uncertainty didn't exist, I wouldn't care if the share price was 0.0001, because I could be confident that I'd extract dividends for years
truffles: free advice right here, leave merica..
maximian: My free advice (more of a longing): redirect satoshidice.com to satoshidice.ie or some other domain while you still can. The website being seized will spook a lot of existing players away.
Schadenfreude: Even SE-Asia is better for that kind of business. In Europe look into Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Monaco etc.
maximian: some other non-US controlled TLD I should say
Schadenfreude: The USA is in a bad state, the IRS and its jack-booted thugs might not care if what zou do is legal if it even is a bit dubious
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068299 = 2.9512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1444 @ 0.000683 = 0.9863 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068207 = 2.9472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4887 @ 0.00068181 = 3.332 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068183 = 2.9462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4646 @ 0.00068181 = 3.1677 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31331 @ 0.00068181 = 21.3618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 769 @ 0.00068023 = 0.5231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068292 = 2.9509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 329 @ 0.000683 = 0.2247 BTC [+]
jcpham: ^ someone quoted a MPO-PR post in -otc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068274 = 2.9501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.000683 = 2.5128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068279 = 2.9503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6748 @ 0.000683 = 4.6089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2358 @ 0.00068351 = 1.6117 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4025 @ 0.00068894 = 2.773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00068822 = 6.3316 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00068822 = 7.364 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 21.75002, Best ask: 21.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09997, Last trade: 21.75001, 24 hour volume: 60296.08920281, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.15000, 24 hour vwap: 21.46847
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1975 @ 0.00068894 = 1.3607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00068899 = 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00590933 / 0.00632497 / 0.00677999 (892420 shares, 5,644.53 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.0057918 / 0.007395 (3565080 shares, 20,648.26 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00532461 / 0.0075 (8366014 shares, 44,545.81 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1273 @ 0.00068822 = 0.8761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068024 = 2.9393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12294 @ 0.00068023 = 8.3627 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1940 @ 0.00068899 = 1.3366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006898 = 2.9806 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5739 @ 0.00068981 = 3.9588 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.60000000 / 0.63206115 / 0.68999980 (2551 shares, 1612.38799660 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.6591122 / 0.89000000 (6250 shares, 4119.45127865 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.62864917 / 0.89000000 (9575 shares, 6019.31583260 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4261 @ 0.00068981 = 2.9393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6889 @ 0.00068982 = 4.7522 BTC [+]
Chilca: Why everyone is selling S.DICE?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00068982 = 7.0707 BTC [+]
topace: everyones not, most people are buying, just lots of fsupply right now with eric dumping 3million shares on the market
gesell: anyone have a copy of the old bitcoin forum?
Chilca: I don't have more money to buy more!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2866 @ 0.00068913 = 1.975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068358 = 2.9537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00068351 = 7.7578 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00068023 = 0.5353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7276 @ 0.00067999 = 4.9476 BTC [-]
burnside: I think they're confused. Shoulda been btcto.ca. ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068963 = 2.9799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3211 @ 0.00068979 = 2.2149 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8635 @ 0.00619999 = 53.5369 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2848 @ 0.00067999 = 1.9366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067904 = 2.9341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.00067903 = 0.5643 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 490 @ 0.0006792 = 0.3328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068965 = 2.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00068979 = 1.5755 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.0006792 = 2.602 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7369 @ 0.00067903 = 5.0038 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Where in the PDF does it say "4 machines"?
midnightmagic: It mentions the word "machine", singular, before that.
midnightmagic: Right, I am logged into a machine right now with 32 cores, and it's just one machine.
Diablo-D3: in 2010, AMD didnt make a CPU that had 16 cores
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.61 = 1.83 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: and we agree those are 2 socket machines
midnightmagic: Even the little picture describes a single processor with 16 cores.
Diablo-D3: AMD skipped that step and just do what Sun and IBM do
midnightmagic: Dude. If it is significantly slower, and interfering with other CPUs (so the effect is multiplicative), then it is orders of magnitude slower to access remote memory, and a single box is a NUMA box.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: yes, but where would you find a machine that fits that description?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00068966 = 1.8966 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and more importantly, who would buy it when they could buy functioning opteron and xeon boxes instead?
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: They've been around for years. I have been personally benchmarking them for years.
midnightmagic: Admit that the PDF I linked is talking about a single box!
Diablo-D3: if it said 24 cores, you could possibly argue that if I didnt already know better
Diablo-D3: the 12 core CPUs that the new 16 core bulldozers replace are actually MCM, complete with two memory controllers
Diablo-D3: so if opteron was actually numa like you thought it was, it'd look like that except 24 cores
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: yes, Ive played with libnuma before
Diablo-D3: AMD manufactures very large numa machines
Diablo-D3: like, half the top 500 are AMD NUMAs
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: anyhow, if numastat says you have multiple nodes, then either you're on numa or linux has a good reason for treating your box like numa
Diablo-D3: Ive never seen a single opteron box ever say more than one node
midnightmagic: "One great advantage of the NUMA architecture is that even in a big system with many CPUs it is possible to get very low latency on the local memory."
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: yes, that statement does not conflict with anything I said
Diablo-D3: numa doesnt effect local memory latency
Diablo-D3: yes, I already pasted that in the other channel
midnightmagic: No that's the machine I'm currently logged into right now.
Diablo-D3: weird, I wonder whats wrong with it
midnightmagic: It's an Opteron 854 based machine. Opteron 854s are single-core. You tell me how many sockets.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: I think I know why it has numa enabled
midnightmagic: So for 6 years your definition has been wrong, at least.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1571 @ 0.00068966 = 1.0835 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: so theres an htx bridge somewhere on your mobo
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Diablo-D3: same reason I said some older 8 socket boards might appear as numa
Diablo-D3: they built two circular rings, then added two bridges where the crosses would go
midnightmagic: Right, it's so alien, it's the ONE EXCEPTION to your definition.
midnightmagic: Woops, NUMA exists on multi-socket, single-box machines..
Diablo-D3: I dont, I just dont like people claiming anything with more than one socket is numa
midnightmagic: Except that I have a machine that AMD calls NUMA that I'm logged into right now.
Diablo-D3: and I believe I also said that opterons with htx bridges are numa
Diablo-D3: I'd hate to own that machine though
Diablo-D3: you have to be very careful not to use anything that uses threads and/or isnt numa safe
midnightmagic: 11:30 < moore> and when you have non uniforme access to memory like in a multi socket system it is nonuniform
Diablo-D3: not only does that program slow down, but it assrapes the entire machine
midnightmagic: I'm fairly sure he's limited it to the definition of NUMA.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: thats not the way I interpreted that
midnightmagic: The definition of NUMA is non-uniform, it's in the acronym.
Diablo-D3: yes, but you and him were both claiming ANY non-local memory bank is non-uniform
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: and btw, it works the other way
midnightmagic: I know you don't log, but even in your scrollback, I'm fairly sure you can't find a quote from me where I asserted that.
Diablo-D3: opteron memory controllers talk to each other to synchronize various things
Diablo-D3: they dont when they're on other sides of an htx bridge
Diablo-D3: if amd ever fixed that, you might end up with a non-numa supercomputer.
midnightmagic: I'm fairly sure that speed of memory access is the only qualifier.
Diablo-D3: external htx buses are slow and high latency
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: btw, ONLY claiming non-locality of memory being slow means numa
Diablo-D3: are they NUMA too? your definition seems to fit that even though its really wrong
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068243 = 2.9488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00068218 = 3.1919 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: the majority of memory isnt local to compute units
Diablo-D3: actually, I wonder if it does really qualify to be called that
midnightmagic: It is much slower for the CPU to access the memory of a GPU, and thus by definition it is also non-uniform memory access.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: Im talking just from the perspective of the gpu
midnightmagic: Taken as a unified whole, any processor "accessing" other memory, regardless of whether the system has to *push* memory out to a GPU and act as an interloper, means it is non-uniform memory access.
Diablo-D3: yeah, but Im just talking the gpu accessing vram
Diablo-D3: compute units actually have local memory, and individual threads have local memory on top of that
midnightmagic: I don't know enough about that to meaningfully discuss it with you.
Diablo-D3: no, I thought moore was trolling me
midnightmagic: No, really. Did you just make all this up and then got surprised so you have to defend it by pretending "node" in the literature means something other than what it does?
Diablo-D3: huh? the only thing you've done is found a box that qualifies to be called numa
Diablo-D3: and due to how its constructed, yes, using it as numa is a better use of it's resources
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: and btw, that 8 core box I described, Im pretty sure it had a northbridge for the second ring
Bugpowder: You guys should hang out, maybe go on a date
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00619998 = 7.44 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: You mean super common amongst processors that have individual MM.
dub: Bugpowder: they should take it to #bitcoin-bromance
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: its not common for machines to have more than one northbridge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006896 = 2.9798 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13029 @ 0.00068979 = 8.9873 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: Ah, you're talking about your own machine, not the one I'm currently logged into right now.
midnightmagic: I'm talking about the one I'm currently logged into.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: Im talking in genral
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: yours I wouldnt doubt it has a weird layout
Namworld: Now that's what I'm talking about
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: it probably has at least one htx bridge
midnightmagic: And.. almost every other machine that has a multi-socketed processor where each processor has a mm onboard and hands out memory to other processors over an interconnect.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: I dont consider mm northbridges
midnightmagic: Pretty much every processor that can be used in a multi-socket machine now benefits from a NUMA-aware Linux.
Diablo-D3: dont get me wrong, I wish more shit was numa aware
Diablo-D3: Namworld: yeah, I think thats awesome
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: as a programmer, Ive basically rejected threading altogether
Namworld: I think my ASICMINER shares will be sold =/
Namworld: Because they're already on auction
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3910 @ 0.0062 = 24.242 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16090 @ 0.0062 = 99.758 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: wont be with this batch
Diablo-D3: Namworld: and where are you selling them?
pigeons: midnightmagic: avalon has sold 2 batches
pigeons: i thought you meant "consumer asic mining devices"
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: anyhow, whatever. if numactl says its numa, its probably numa, and I was tired of this argument long before gmaxwell freaked out
Namworld: If the others never ship, I'll be pissed.
Diablo-D3: Namworld: bfl probably wont, and basic failed to ship
midnightmagic: If the others never ship, asicminer will have enough hash to 50%, and asic doomsday will happen.
Diablo-D3: erm, you both do realize avalon shipped, right?
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: I don't hear about anyone else receiving their units.
Diablo-D3: 2 out of 4 isnt bad when you realize how fucking scammy shit is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00068979 = 5.9667 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Also, Yifu said the source would be published ages ago, but I don't see it.
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: dude, I really doubt they made 2 fully functioning machines like that
Diablo-D3: the source for what, exactly? openwrt and cgminer?
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Yeah me too. And they're not fully functioning. Have you been seeing all the reboots Jeff's unit is doing?
Namworld: BFL might still save their face and just be really late incompetents.
Diablo-D3: its not like he wrote any software
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Their changes to cgminer I'm personally most interested in.
Namworld: Otherwise, sucks for everyone.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8534 @ 0.00068218 = 5.8217 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: I dont know why the reboots are happening
Diablo-D3: I think they did the fault detection shit wrong
Diablo-D3: instead of just handling it normally, they reboot the whole box
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: I'm really hoping it's not that sensitive to heat. Because that would suck..
Bugpowder: it is more money than you would make by holding the shares and recieving dividends
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Jeff said when he gets it cooled properly the reboots ease up.
Namworld: But looks like ASICMINER is deploying boards. Plus it's not like it's a fixed bond.
Bugpowder: AND you could then put the proceeds on NO on the BFL bitbet to increase it even more
Namworld: It's a long term profit share of an ASIC manufacturer
Namworld: We're at day 3.5 of a 7 days auction.
Bugpowder: These shares could make. 1BTC each
midnightmagic: On the bright side, I heard back from them and they told me that Icarus owners get to jump the line. :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3751 @ 0.00068219 = 2.5589 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Although, the best use of fiat was to actually BUY bitcoins instead of mining equipment
midnightmagic: Bugpowder: From a purely economic sense. *Some* people just want to participate more as a miner, and get pristine coins.
midnightmagic: pigeons: Originally, 200+ share owners for asicminer were planned to be able to trade-in and get an asicminer. I don't know what's happening with that deal these days.
Bugpowder: until my apt smelled like hot PCBs
pigeons: another one I wonder about is deepbit reclaimer asics where you buy the shares at icbit.se
Diablo-D3: Namworld: hahahaha I made the list short
Namworld: You sure it's going to be rentable?
dub: you would have to assume asicminer got their boards hashing individually before racking them up
Namworld: If they stick around for at least a year mining and selling ASICs, I guess... more if they design new chips in the future.
Namworld: I guess the competition will be an important impact
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006876 = 2.9711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 455 @ 0.00068753 = 0.3128 BTC [-]
Namworld: I am torn right now, by my will to secure a profit right away and how good ASICMINER seems to be turning out.
dub: somebody said that once you have a design applying it to 'smaller process' is easier?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.63999999 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068953 = 2.9795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00068978 = 1.2271 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: dub: I like to think of them as ghetto bladeboxes
dub: theres plenty of telco kit in that type of configuration, ISDN muxes etc
Diablo-D3: I thought that kind of gear was horizontal?
midnightmagic: pigeons: Reclaimer, at least in the broken google translation from Russian, was going to be extremely technically complex to configure. Much more raw than the other polished devices coming online.
dub: not by convention that I am aware, most of what I've seen has vertical cards
midnightmagic: pigeons: Tycho is taking refund requests now from reclaimer orders..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.000688 = 1.9952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 570 @ 0.00068775 = 0.392 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14695 @ 0.00068753 = 10.1033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4933 @ 0.00068522 = 3.3802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7055 @ 0.00068218 = 4.8128 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: loving this relentless buying pressure
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.18000, Best ask: 22.20810, Bid-ask spread: 0.02810, Last trade: 22.20810, 24 hour volume: 62600.03776828, 24 hour low: 20.77002, 24 hour high: 22.20810, 24 hour vwap: 21.55024
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068959 = 2.9797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2679 @ 0.00068978 = 1.8479 BTC [+]
Namworld: But will it last is the question
dub: Namworld: have you worked out how transfering your asicminer shares is gogin to work?
dub: might be tempted to sell mine around that rte
Namworld: ASICMINER plans to make an exclusive platform to transfer shares.
Namworld: If it's not done before dividends coming in, I plan to just forward them.
dub: yeah but in the interim, or are you holding on behalf until then?
Namworld: I guess there's no other options
Namworld: Unless friedcat is willing to make it personally and verify a signed statement from me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068238 = 2.9486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.00068218 = 0.4632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006897 = 1.7932 BTC [+]