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shinohai: Haven't gotten to try it yet, but want to run the full suite of tests as soon as I get back home this afternoon. ;)
mod6: <+shinohai> Not bad mod6 .... want to get with you later this evening on the new Makefiles thing if you have a few minutes to spare << sure thing. did you get to try it out?
BingoBoingo: In not news, Buttstamp now introduce Litecoin trading to two cans and a string too
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/supreme-court-lifts-lesser-court-injunctions-against-trump-travel-bans/ << Qntra - Supreme Court Lifts Lesser Court Injunctions Against Trump Travel Bans
erlehmann: and the makefile only builds the project on every second invocation
erlehmann: but the cmake scripts don't work well
erlehmann: i have yet to see a build system that can do so much in so few lines of code
shinohai: Hey the redo-dot dep graph thing is pretty nifty too!
erlehmann: reading the text explains that statement
erlehmann: if your build-system is not recording two dozen dependency relationship for a simple hello world program, it is pretty much a non-build-system
shinohai likes anything that can be done better w/ shell scripting
erlehmann: shinohai faster smaller and more reliable than make
shinohai: Not bad mod6 .... want to get with you later this evening on the new Makefiles thing if you have a few minutes to spare
sina: I was just about to sign off for the night :)
sina: erlehmann: I do hope to be able to code a naughty host counter up, still thinking about that
sina: I was just happy to get the OTP working for today and will continue to increment it
sina: erlehmann: for example https://github.com/sinner-/gossipd/blob/master/gossipd/cmd/gossipc.py#L68 ...it throws an error if you try to add a peer before an RSA key is available
sina: erlehmann: yup. if you look through the code you see I do validate inputs as they come in on the socket for example, but I noticed while I was developing that there are some more subtle edge cases and that's what I was referring to
a111: Logged on 2017-06-26 09:59 sina: it's still a little rough around the edges so you can break it pretty easily if you disconnect during a session or send bad data or whatever like that.
erlehmann: sina have you checked all your input against a formal grammar today? ☟︎
sina: problem. Read this advisory for instructions about an Intel-provided
sina: Disable hyper-threading immediately in BIOS/UEFI to work around the
sina: tmsr trigger warnings: it uses sqlite, TCP, OOP but I tried to make it modular enough that those things could easily be changed. It isn't the lighthouse or linespeed thing asciilifeform has mentioned, I just tried to follow the spec on trilema.com
sina: pytomcrypt is the only external dependency
sina: it's still a little rough around the edges so you can break it pretty easily if you disconnect during a session or send bad data or whatever like that. ☟︎
sina: if anyone wants to play https://github.com/sinner-/gossipd ☟︎☟︎
sina: alright. the gossipd thingo is 0.0.1 implemented. peers can communicate, each session (fetch messages) is mediated by deedbot style OTP with per peer-pair RSA keys (no GPG shell asciilifeform, using libtomcrypt). I wrote a tiny client to add peers, exchange keys, broadcast msgs and view stored msgs. there is a README.
BingoBoingo: Or as an alternative there's a number of new manufacter 2-cycle scooters which do not require registration due to various "moped" exemptions. Needs to be under 50cc displacement which means riding machine with 1/4 of a lawnmower engine or twice a string trimmer engine.
ben_vulpes: on the "laptops suck" thread, now that i'm using an adult workstation most of the time, my hands start hurting after a bare thirty minutes on a 13" laptop kb ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-25 06:30 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Felt that. The thing is gotta learn the more mundane feelings to learn the novel ones
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674280 << don't forget that you can put a holy 2-stroke in the secret apu slot of the slavecycle at the ghetto craft table and walk away with the prized freedombike! ☝︎
sina: ben_vulpes: I'm not smart enough to make what's described there, just implementing the spec I saw for amusement
sina: ben_vulpes: that is quite different from the spec :P
a111: Logged on 2016-03-01 03:53 asciilifeform: mats: the idea is, a kind of line-speed (GB ethernet) wall, where crud goes in, and valid in-wot gossipd out.
sina: thanks for the headsup on that, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-01#1418726 looks interesting but quite different from what I'm making :P ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-25 16:07 mp-en-managua: ah, ben_vulpes' thingee dun read outloud huh. also the windows original product keys are a little lengthy.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674299 << yeah, it suxx, i hear you. probably going do the right thing like phf and use timestamps ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-25 17:43 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674299 << i suspect if you manually upped mimisbrunnr (until he implements the self voice) it would quote now
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:48 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673487 << i find it lulzy that folx will happily say this to someone to whom they would ~not~ necessarily say 'kill yerself nao, slice lengthwise' . but at the same time the phrases have EQUIVALENT meaning, because at some point you are already as rich as you possibly know how to become.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673500 << most folks who bitch in the manner of "oh noes, rising rents and stagnant wages" have not meaningfully pursued higher wages. not a matter of "rich as know how to get" but "thought this rich was enough forever" which is very foolish. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: not to piss in cheerios, but to find shared basis.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/354708EE43E41E72C8E4227529A7F2A75D9B7D1EDB29D174008FF2CE74FA3A5E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1518...3873 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '192.167.72.43 (ssh-rsa key from 192.167.72.43 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (biofisica-35.unipv.it. IT 25 PV)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/354708EE43E41E72C8E4227529A7F2A75D9B7D1EDB29D174008FF2CE74FA3A5E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1788...6957 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '192.167.72.43 (ssh-rsa key from 192.167.72.43 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (biofisica-35.unipv.it. IT 25 PV)
sina: it's almost as if being a homosexual has nothing to do with your political orientation :P
sina: TL;DR, Russian gay activist who triggered crackdown/kidnap/murder on gay people in Chechnya (aside from a bunch of other stupid shit) is also very anti-semite
sina: BingoBoingo: that's pretty funny because I was reading this http://exiledonline.com/russia-blog-day-1-the-strange-activist-who-provoked-chechnyas-anti-gay-crackdown/
BingoBoingo: Three people carrying Jewish Pride flags were asked to leave the Chicago Dyke March on Saturday in part because they “repeatedly expressed support for Zionism”"
BingoBoingo: ISRAELJERUSALEMGAYPARADE An Israeli woman draped with a rainbow gay pride flag with the Star of David walks past Israeli border policemen during the annual Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade on July 21, 2016.
BingoBoingo: From the mines:
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CBCE9595FFD44B5848895D2216E07BF49549F3724C839F7BC77492932CD12B70 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1462...5079 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '84.41.117.181 (ssh-rsa key from 84.41.117.181 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown BA BIH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CBCE9595FFD44B5848895D2216E07BF49549F3724C839F7BC77492932CD12B70 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1598...3303 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '84.41.117.181 (ssh-rsa key from 84.41.117.181 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown BA BIH)
sina: that seems less hacky typing it out
sina: or should it be a three-phase thing where 1. each peer advertises their name/host/port to the other 2. each receives the others pubkey 3. adds it to the peer info
sina: phf? trinque?
sina: any thoughts? does that even make sense? basically it's caused because I am trying to use a different pubkey per peer, if there was just 1 pubkey it would be a standard out of band RSA pubkey exchange
sina: but this presents a chicken/egg problem, where the peer "initiating" the addition will need to then advertise that key to the other peer and wait for a key back, and then initiate an update to the peer data to add in the advertised pubkey ☟︎
sina: I am trying to program the following behaviour, a user can run "gossipc --add-peer --host 1.1.1.1 --port 5000 --name sina" and gossipc will select one of the available (not bogus) RSA keys generated by the ongoing key generation process and say something like "peer added. advertise/exchange the following pubkey to that peer:"
sina: suggestions on the following key exchange conundrum:
shinohai: But that might constitute "cruel and unusual" punishment.
shinohai: otoh she *could* oversee death penalty cases and just execute the condemned by sitting on them.
BingoBoingo: Well, WoT or GTFO to the author
sina: that is some dumb shit BingoBoingo but I am pretty sure it's just someone trolling, because I think I have seen that pic before
BingoBoingo: That's how you know it's true.
erlehmann: i wonder if it was intended as genuine satire or more as clickbait to get advertising dollars
jurov: definitely better approach than pressing their Control, Meta and Shift keys all the time
BingoBoingo: Found in wild: "Protip: if you meet someone and don't want to ask his/her/:wq preferred pronouns, you can just use vim commands instead"
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/poor-brits-evacuated-from-their-warehousing-in-green-incinerators/ << Qntra - Poor Brits Evacuated From Their Warehousing In Green Incinerators
mp-en-managua: thanks for voice. i'll bb tomorrow.
mp-en-managua: 1000 redditards do this with what 25% of 1997 bux ?
shinohai: "But Gavin said ETH scales better than Bitcoin!!!!!"
shinohai: re: icokit, I hope to see 1000 redditards do this, will keep the methereum DDoS fueled for a bit :)
mp-en-managua: asciilifeform: no, i saw the thing on github. but what's the big deal, spend an hour with the new guy an' his thing, see what comes of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's old post re making a gift from paper for his mother, comes to mind.
asciilifeform: i confess, did not read whole thing, past the boojum.
asciilifeform: i dun like , contrary to popular belief, pissing on parades. but pile of coal is not a diamond.
phf: though the via shell, per packet part isn't implemented yet
a111: Logged on 2017-06-25 16:07 mp-en-managua: ah, ben_vulpes' thingee dun read outloud huh. also the windows original product keys are a little lengthy.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674299 << i suspect if you manually upped mimisbrunnr (until he implements the self voice) it would quote now ☝︎☟︎
mp-en-managua: and in other not-news, frankenhooker is definitely worth seeing. preferably with a bunch of "shy" and "they never did this before" naked latinas, who don't speak too good english and aren't old enough to know wtf a vhs tape is.
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-25: [08:08:54] <sina> gonna head out for dinner and hopefully start adding in pieces of the crypto on my return
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170625/#42 << im defo giving this a spin once back.
mp-en-managua: "There is no denying that ICOs are hot right now. If you have a great idea for a Cryptocurrency, there is an army of enthusiasts ready and excited to back you."
mp-en-managua: how they don't tire of themselves is anyone's guess by this point.
mp-en-managua: and of course, from the mandatory list of idle bullshit, "Gnosis $12.5 million for decentralized prediction market. " because totally, we've entirely forgotten how whatever random redditardesque thing was going to take over from bitbet at any point nao because it has to because redditard friendly is all that matters to the redditard mind AND IT WAS
mp-en-managua: apparently fucktards learned nothing of the doge slaughter, still believe "promotion" matters. ☟︎
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-25: [14:11:02] <shinohai> Launch your ICO NOW before it is too late!!!! http://icokit.com/
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170625/#45 << "Are you sick of watching Cryptocurrency opportunities pass you by without getting in the game? Here's what we can do for you: We will create an ERC20 complient Ethereum Token for you."
mp-en-managua: fucking incredible this country, pre jp2 catolicism survives undisturbed in nicaragua. you'd think you're in 1880s sicily over here, proper parade, including the music and the excited tweens in clean clothes for once in their week.
mp-en-managua: why thankee
mp-en-managua: it's not very clear to me what you mean by "update lastseen status", but yes in principle there's no need for an outside observer to be able to distinguish "your" identities from "others", ie whether you wer eable to decypher message M or not needn't be leaked.
mp-en-managua: on the othe rside you have th esignificance of these identities, which is an operator concern. the operator may be augmented by the program, but principally speaking the designation of identities works like the us notion of state secrets - "they're classified if the president says and until he says."
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-25: [03:35:57] <sina> so really the list of identities needs to be mutable?
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170625/#19 << indirection layer. you have your actual identities on one side, and they're immutable, just an ever growing list, similar to how wallet keeps accumulating bitcoi naddresses with their keys.
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170625/#10 << at this time i think i was hanging out with the only indian restauranteur in all of granada. fine gentleman, used to run a place in majorca if he's to be believed. kickass homemade yogurt, and fine vindaloo.
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170624/#61 << it's funny, they notice the part where "pitting arkansas farmers against arkansas farmers is never good", but they don't notice the part where "all arkansas farmers do all day is argue how to better plant soy for the chinese boss man". i suppose that's always good or what.
TomServo: mp-en-managua Yup, shinohai helped me out, thanks.
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-24: [20:54:46] <erlehmann> http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/ << i did not know what to make of mp's idiosyncratic writing style at first, but this what i'll show people if they question the “queer zine for the 1%” line.
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170624/#50 << ahh, it's been a pleasure re-reading that piece. /me enjoys reading trilema apparently.
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-24: [02:15:03] <sina> going to get some food and chill out for a bit, any feedback would be appreciated
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170624/#23 << as experience shows, the first implementation of a spec often ends up improving the spec. write it out, see what's wrong with it after/