asciilifeform: in all other respects it's ~identical to ressonably vintage trad gentoo , mechanically
asciilifeform: really it's primarily a test of muslism
asciilifeform: my last shot failed, and with no usable debugola, but trinque has updated since, and high time to retry.
asciilifeform: it gotta be done at any rate, currently asciilifeform is the tortoise in the cuntoo race fulla achileses
asciilifeform: i'ma prepare a pilot box on desk for cuntooism and reproduction of pg etc
asciilifeform: no sooner than hanbot is done with her proj on the spare unit, but no reason to wait any longer .
asciilifeform: phuctor is actually due for a redisking , for expanded space, would like to combine this with encuntooation, once we establish that pg runs
asciilifeform: front end is python , back end is statically linked c that'll run anywhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to move ~all~ of asciilifeform-tended irons to cuntoo eventually.
asciilifeform: it was forced move, on acct of the shitfest that is 'bring own linux'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the 9000 headaches of folx who tried to build pre-rotor trb ? asciilifeform did not resort to 'and now run this 4 hour script that builds a gcc, and then builds with it a gcc, and ~then~ builds deps, and ~then~ trb' just to make life moar interesting.
asciilifeform: sorta why it gotta die to begin with.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem is that 'my own gentoo' is not a defined item.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only total cure for thompsonism is to ditch unix/c/pc/etc entirely. we aint there yet tho.
asciilifeform: what i thought hanbot was going to do, is to attempt trinque's recipe using BingoBoingo's beachhead stick . then BingoBoingo's fossil gentoo can be pressed into service as standard beachhead, while such thing still needed.
asciilifeform: rright , but this apparently requires a working fossilized gentoo. to reproduce at all.
asciilifeform: trinque: what's the obstacle currently in the way of a bootable cuntoo iso ?
asciilifeform: i gotta agree with mircea_popescu tho, the current recipe is very muchly 'wanna light a fire? take a stick, and yer old fire..'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideally would be 'download trinque's signed iso and boot from it, then install cuntoo'☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presently exists for rk. do you suppose also oughta have one for pc ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: heathen gentoo is exactly lenin's 'we build the new shithouse from the rubble of the old, there aint any imported brick to build it from'
asciilifeform: lotsa folx over the years tried 'telepathic debug', but it never worx, we aint got any telepaths
asciilifeform: mod6: mircea_popescu already said, but pleeez post your process
asciilifeform: mod6: i assume you fed trinque's script your kernel config ?
asciilifeform: cuntoo afaik is atm silent on the question of what goes in kernel.
asciilifeform: mod6: if yours panics, sounds like kernel (or even iron) problem , rather than cuntoo issue
asciilifeform: a working cuntoo is the only path fwd for reproducible, reasonably-working unix box.
asciilifeform: i defungated this bread crust many times, but there aint so much bread remaining in it.
asciilifeform: iirc this is amply documented in the logs, but will remind folx again, ~errything~ on the heathen mirrors oughta be considered in full fungal bloom, at this pt.
asciilifeform: i'd prefer to get the rk plant onto a working cuntoo as soon as it becomes practical.
asciilifeform: and incidentally ( achtung rk users ! ) if you are careless and allow 'emerge' to update, you will hose the machine, from that point it will whine ( about the prohibition on systemd!! ) and grind to a halt when asked to emerge anyffin
asciilifeform: rk-gentoo still pulls from heathen mirrors if you 'emerge ...' , i dun expect this will work 4evah
asciilifeform: ( cuntoo was not available when i baked rk , and it was necessary to work around the sad state of the upstream mirrors, hence why bottled it )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is of course the bottled gentoo i baked for rk; but it is also arguably a technological dead-end, and eventually oughta be replaced with arm cuntoo
asciilifeform: was sorta half the reason for cuntoo in the 1st place
asciilifeform: i'm not even certain that it's ~possible~ today to glue together a complete classical gentoo ( and if possible today -- may not be tomorrow )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho there's not much educational value any moar in setting up ancient gentoo; it's obsoleted by cuntoo, and quite difficult to revv up on acct of the dead mirrors☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, then would need a ~third~ disk for cuntoo.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it has 12G of writeable space, oughta suffice for cuntoo build afaik
asciilifeform: seems to me from the article that hanbot went to setup up a ~traditional~ gentoo 1st, which as i understand isn't actually needed ( machine already booted into 1 )
asciilifeform: trinque: we supplied hanbot with box containing empty sata disk, and separate (usb) drive from which booted.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at umd they had ~1~ cow. with a sort of hatch installed in it, for didactic purposes. and when it keels over they make a new one.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc recently they trotted out a new pantsuit cow whose 'turn next', but the name escapes me
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the trad sovok variant of this item is 'let's play elephant'. where with gas mask.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: same func as of the 'bascule' in guillotine, aha
asciilifeform: ( conan doyle's 'the leather funnel' had a picturesque picture of the trad inquisition-style waterboard )
asciilifeform: well yes, 'the extraordinary question'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i recall, when 1st saw mention of 'waterboarding', didn't grasp what the item behind the limba de lemn was, thought 'ah, like snowboarding, but on water, that thing they do where board rides on wave' , initially was confused
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: think of it as the mercaptan that gets added to naturalgas. it aint meant to enhance the smelling experience, quite opposite.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1893996 << d00d ripped off trb, and even wrote a piece of yarn to go with it where 'he stole great jewel from dumb orcs'. today hangs with kako. seems to have sinological / eastern 'learnings' wank - leanings.☝︎
asciilifeform: aaat least it's a pair of 100bux boot, and not pete's '15 days in the shop and $10`750 in servicing costs,ii since then he’s only spent 4 days in the shop and $3`750 in servicing costs.' toyota
asciilifeform: rather like the old thread with mircea_popescu's top hat.
asciilifeform: afaik these aint gettable (new) today, without time machine, tho.
