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mircea_popescu: phf i think your curl transcodes ?
phf: oh i think it transcodes
phf: it does seem to mangle ~something~
mod6: im gonna try to see if I can resolve the issues. probably just my environment or whateve.r
mod6: asciilifeform: here's what I get when I grab the generic Makefile, and use your fact.tar.gz: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RaNYu/?raw=true ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( use the one in the tar, paste in, then, e.g., wget -- what happens? )
mircea_popescu: i have, they're there.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-16 01:40 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684813 << no it doesn't dood, stop flying off the handle, we had it tried nad tested in every which way and it was fine.
mod6: im probably condemmed to going through all the hoops to get gnat setup on gentoo. i just haven't ventured into it yes as it seems like a pretty timely, process.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> !~later tell mod6 http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fact.tar.gz << complete kit for above. sha512==26198604bff50d3411e343a30b97f4babe3a6b291fca267435cecd6a5438a08862b550198a49dd5549dda00c841d95afc1443f597587710b83c7fa65effa9c73 << alright thanks!
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 23:19 asciilifeform: and YES ben_vulpes your paster MUTILATES TABS
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684813 << no it doesn't dood, stop flying off the handle, we had it tried nad tested in every which way and it was fine. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 22:52 mod6: yah, gotta be the version of my make is different than yours, plus, i'm not using adacore's gnat
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684794 << check the 0a 0d s ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 22:47 asciilifeform: tomorrow will see how varies.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684783 << ended up with a tmsr-approved "flops" measure on top of errything did we ☝︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4029EAF0CD4D7EB8C1669A0DAC6769392648135131E696D584E9425F9C526AEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1466...3193 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '104.207.200.99 (ssh-rsa key from 104.207.200.99 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (104.207.200.99.lightower.net. US MA)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4029EAF0CD4D7EB8C1669A0DAC6769392648135131E696D584E9425F9C526AEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1468...9739 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '104.207.200.99 (ssh-rsa key from 104.207.200.99 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (104.207.200.99.lightower.net. US MA)
sina: trinque: I just came to try and get a rise out of asciilifeform :P
sina: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684186 << it's hard more than that AFAIK, although I only started using it about 1.5y ago ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 23:19 asciilifeform: and YES ben_vulpes your paster MUTILATES TABS
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think it's ben_vulpes's paster, it must be something in the pipeline
asciilifeform: and YES ben_vulpes your paster MUTILATES TABS ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: this goes for phf and whoever else is tuned in and following along.
asciilifeform: mod6: if this does not build on your box, you gotta find out why, before attempting anything other adatronic experiments.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fact.tar.gz << complete kit for above. sha512==26198604bff50d3411e343a30b97f4babe3a6b291fca267435cecd6a5438a08862b550198a49dd5549dda00c841d95afc1443f597587710b83c7fa65effa9c73 ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i have nfi why this was needed.
mod6: this seems to get me past the 33 error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FRKI7/?raw=true
mod6: was this:
asciilifeform: i have it working on both types
mod6: yah, gotta be the version of my make is different than yours, plus, i'm not using adacore's gnat ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes's paste thing must be mutilating endings
mod6: now i get: make: *** No rule to make target 'gnatmake', needed by 'ffa'. Stop.
mod6: then add '\' following those.
mod6: to resolve those, i had to yank target instructions to the same line as the target var.
mod6: also, makefile doesnt seem to work, i seem to recall this from before.
asciilifeform: fwiw i left mod6's factorial thing running on 3 different boxes
asciilifeform: ( i enable all - afaik - of the checks that are for some reason off by default )
asciilifeform: also you gotta use all of my flags to have comparable result.
asciilifeform: gnat apparently has the utterly worthless ( even for auditing, it produces megatonne of liquishit ) O0 as default.
asciilifeform: ( pretty sure i posted this before. but here it is again. )
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 incidentally didja build with -cargs -O2 ??????
mircea_popescu: trinque a fine example, too, the more i think of it the more i like it. aedificium (=building) != aedificans (... building) != aedificant (still!!! building) and so on and so forth qs.
mircea_popescu: how classical is your classical, becuase that item is ~60s ?
asciilifeform: classic mri is simply like a 3d xray that shows soft tissue
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am speaking of the principle, described ^
mircea_popescu: our cook's thermometer clearly indicates that the fault in koch's gpg is located in the upper left cpu quadrant.
asciilifeform: again yer speaking of the f
mircea_popescu: works my foot. "this section of the brain fucked your mother"
mircea_popescu: discussions of how mri is not science plastered all over teh logs.
asciilifeform: trying to use electric field -- ends badly
asciilifeform: afaik you cannot actually make a tool like this , that would work reasonably.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 00:46 asciilifeform: possibly delicate balance, between finding it anywhere in the room ( as a poorly made amp will ) and nowhere
erlehmann: asciilifeform have you reverse engineered the thing and analyzed the fault?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 19:55 erlehmann: asciilifeform you long for the days of codepage switching, i guess?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann the "improved" comment was re your http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684708 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 00:43 asciilifeform: (mostly) unrelatedly, asciilifeform bought some chinese $various , and , in the crate, discovered a phree goodie, a 'voltalert' tool, that supposedly tests for presence of mains current noncontactfully -- by looking for 50/60Hz electric field. but witness the surprise : it gives false negative on maybe 1/3 of the hot mains wires tried...
mircea_popescu: of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679507 ilk ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 96% or so false positives. such tool.
mircea_popescu: fucking "spellchekers", they have 1/3 my vocabulary and no head for puns.
mircea_popescu: children that should have died of exonsure suspended from anal hooks in the open before the age of twelve.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this endless lulz of socialism whereby they come up with a dumb "solution" to a non-problem which sane people ignore ("code pages") and THEN they come up with an "improved" solution to the same nonproblem and expect sane people to not piss on their face because hey, IMPROVED!
erlehmann: result: i tell people to not write a book.
erlehmann: i later learned someone corrected all that stuff in the file sent to the printer by hand. their loss.
erlehmann: i think we submitted more changes than any other book by one or two orders of magnitude, just because we had it automated.
erlehmann: turns out a bit of ghostscript can fix that problem
erlehmann: but then drafts had to be sent as ODT and came back as PDF to be annotated. in hindsight that was probably a measure to prevent too many annotations.
erlehmann: in a chapter about evolution of traditional smilies to emoji
erlehmann: and they actually failed at astral plane unicode characters
erlehmann: worst unicode fail was that i wrote a book with a friend, published with o'reilly http://internetmeme.de
mircea_popescu: they were fine days - i never switched a page throughout.
erlehmann: asciilifeform you long for the days of codepage switching, i guess? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: all they do is spawn vermin ? i never noticed this !
mircea_popescu: you mean ... just like everyting ELSE the socialistards came up with ?
asciilifeform: with maximally soft fallback to roman
asciilifeform: erlehmann: that's the only forgiveable way of doing orc alphabets ( ru, il, gr )
erlehmann: koi8-r was the one where bitfuckery rearranged the cyrillic glyphs so that taking away a bit made it ASCII
mod6: But alf's seems to compile just fine. So i dunno wtf.
mod6: anyway, a couple days ago, i was messing around trying to go from 1 .. Word. And I thought that I got a compile error saying "Expected Standard.Integer, found "Word"" or something of the kind.
mod6: i felt like had been silly not even considering going 1...N as opposed to N...1
mircea_popescu: look into it sometime, it's a whole turing machine.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 17:19 phf: fwiw unifont is not even the whole story. consider extensions like CTL, which allows you to have special rendering for a sequence of glyphs. a completely separate technology from ligatures and combining characters, but part of the standard never the less.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684366 << or that stupid encoding shceme they came up with to allow the russkis to pretend like they have cyrillic domain names. ewgh. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not that they weren't, at that.
mircea_popescu: you know, when the emperor died of arsenic poisoning upon eating the "endless life pill", it was not exactly because the alchemists were charlatans.
erlehmann: i guess they „try“, as in keeping up appearances
mircea_popescu: or perhaps because the notion is an escher.
erlehmann: want to write garbage? guess you can't
mircea_popescu: it lost me at "tries". no computer should try anything. that's for (young) girlfriends on their way to the dungeon cell.
erlehmann: it makes it immediately clear what is part of the grammar and what not
mircea_popescu: and why do you like this ?
erlehmann: one of the few things about urbit i like is that the system tries to not allow users to input statements not syntactically valid.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 17:09 erlehmann: note that postprocessing is always wrong.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684356 << note that post-processing is always what you do to a language anyway. ☝︎
erlehmann: mircea_popescu that is actually a major point from me. i tend to drink only with people who either proved they can behave appropriately or it would not bother me if they fucked me in the ass with a supersized dragon dildo while i'm too drunk to resist.
mircea_popescu: so then you do ~what we do when you're having a moment of clarity and are promiscuous when drunk.
erlehmann: almost half of the code of epigraph is a recognizer for the input
erlehmann: mircea_popescu when i write software that considers the input language, i tend to write a grammar for the subset i am going to handle. so yes, i have written software that considers i.e. only characters valid in urlencoded base64 as input and rejects everything else.