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asciilifeform: mats: old news i think
mircea_popescu: excellent testing the library has undergone - I personally am now of the
mircea_popescu: "While I have often cautioned people before to avoid using libsecp256k1
asciilifeform: on any parameter i know of
mircea_popescu: i have not looked at the matter in at least 3 years. does llvm still own gcc much to everyone's chagrin and denial ?
mats: ive read it several times and concluded a) i dont get it and b) f/oss is embarassing and dumb
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so, stallman-gcc, is at odds with stallman-emacs and they don';t wanna talk inside his head because cacti ?
mircea_popescu: obviously i read "floss"
mircea_popescu: mats if i defend my windows, i look for holes. if i attack your windows, i... look for holes ?
joecool: hm i wonder if he ever pops on irc, his co has a small channel
TomServo: kakobrekla | i just find the whole fetch command thing silly. << If it was named scoopdog that'd be one thing...
mircea_popescu: so thinking further on the project to compare ecdsa libraries from yest... i guess the best thing would be to email respectable crypto people see if they want to do it as a contracted job. anyone wish to make recommendations ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i got a piece of junk mail once, advertising specially-made capsules (for folks who have no idea how to use a saw or glue?) for buring rifles. << Obvious hypothesis, they found a Wasp cache and kept the rifles
mircea_popescu: xe4l i don't get what the attacker is supposed to think here. "oh, it's ok, that's just what that weird node does" ?
mircea_popescu: decimation 60 from what i hear.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got a piece of junk mail once, advertising specially-made capsules (for folks who have no idea how to use a saw or glue?) for buring rifles.
xe4l: asciilifeform: it was a crude example, a proper implementation would do fancy shaping, but normalize the overall traffic pattern; I'm sure residential providers wouldn't like this, but MPLS/VPLS, metro-e, routing over peering/IX - it's irrelevant
mircea_popescu: i guess something on udp then
xe4l: what I'm talking about is simply providing less information, right now all of our connectivity generates a substantional amount of noise that can be intperetered, my thought is to shift that to, they are transmitting and receiving or they aren't
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 01:00:10; asciilifeform: 'pardon my cynical twist, but what are you doing with that 20,000×20,000 double-precision floating point matrix you say you need to invert _today_? If you answer "nutt'n, I jus kinda wondered what it'd be like, you know", you should be very happy that I am most likely more than 3000 miles away from you, or I would come over and slap you hard.'
mircea_popescu: i think you will soon discover if you ever get to the practical side of things that denying ALL INFORMATION to an undefined attacker is a function of infinite budgets.
mircea_popescu: xe4l i guess i don't understand what the purpose would be
xe4l: it's trivial to detect if someone is or isn't doing what I described, it's merely a layer to mask activity inside of a segment
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But since the founders made the Keybase abomination, I want to find out how much their original venture lies
xe4l: I'm quite aware of Opsec
mircea_popescu: the problem with this approach is that once challenged, they can not i nfact produce a list of what they did.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a point of strategy, which i think everyone'll appreciate cuz it's lulzy. so : the scam foundation and its merry band of power rangers have very carefully constructed this situation where "nobody knows" what's what and whence it came and where it's going, because they (wrongly) perceived that ownership of an opaque codebase will guarantee them control and continued relevance.
asciilifeform: but the playlists in question were a fashion where kids posted them on their 'look i have a w3bs1t311111'
mircea_popescu: i still have them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yteah i am quite unhappy with an' suspicious of the current avenues for fixing "open source" software.
joecool: i guess should look and see how they patched the behavior
asciilifeform: the default change behaviour is asinine (owing to how it destroys wallet backup as a concept) but i cannot recall how it can be seen as 'vulnerable'
mircea_popescu: i dunno why but drawing a blank
asciilifeform: my sole recollections are from a brief discussion here, i think.
mircea_popescu: 2293 i recall was a retarded dos that had about 0 practical use
asciilifeform: change predictability << personally i'd like to see the problem solved in the civilized way. i.e. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2014#890278 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm leaving this for the folks actually involved
mod6: asciilifeform: ah ok. hmm. well, too late to go back and edit the 1st patch. but i guess you can submit another that resolves that issue.
joecool: nah shouldn't be a problem, i have L2
mod6: if persons submitting patches do not have L2 trust with assbot they may be submitted directly to me, and I will review. and will probably have to sponsor said patch myself.
asciilifeform: mod6: here's something i was gonna put in 'chicken' (init patch) but somehow forgot: version string.
mircea_popescu: i shall let teh experts comment.
beautyon: I'll do it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i meant in terms of getting raped.
BingoBoingo: <joecool> mod6: solid, i'll open a bug to get it included in gentoo (and troll Luke-Jr) << He prolly has a historical version of his patch set s should be fine with it.
joecool: mod6: solid, i'll open a bug to get it included in gentoo (and troll Luke-Jr)
mircea_popescu: actually... quarter i guess. buncha people left last year too didn't they. is murky boy still involved ?
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, i marked mtgox for death in april, they struggled to prop it for six months before abandoning it ignominously, i do not believe they do not know they can not stand.
BingoBoingo: beautyon: I don't see how they could not know. I mean they can't even get their favorite to stop bleeding because they pay $145/CPM for TV marketing
beautyon: Their loss of control is going to harden their attitudes. I can't wait to see them squirm.
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts he's allowed to commit anything past words in this matter.
decimation: I wonder why there is so much action against gold
mircea_popescu: i don't know that vessenes' happy scamfarm is or ever was involved in anything to do with standards.
mircea_popescu: i fully expect them to try, fail, and then spend the next six months writing how mp is a scammer all over reddit/the boy's bathroom
beautyon: BingoBoingo: I actually believe that might be true on a subconscious level. Astonishing.
mircea_popescu: beautyon i don't think you understand how the us politico mind works.
mircea_popescu: i had plainly forgotten that article, imagine my surprise when i see an unfamilir title called up and the server actually respond.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm just building a metaphor based on Past Trilema posts which is surprising easy when you write as much as you. I figure the Tundra artichokes can be worked into a sort of Tarqin/Poppy reference.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo am i thick or is the answer about as related to what it quotes as gavin's "covered" is related to economy ?
asciilifeform: the phrase is, i think, a reference to an eu-ism
mircea_popescu: i'm counting it as a marketing expense, unless we win, in which case hey, free money.
mircea_popescu: i
asciilifeform: and 'installs' (i.e. chumps)
asciilifeform: i'm told that other major telcos in usa have something not unlike it.
decimation: I think Russia still operates their Russian foreign broadcast service
decimation: asciilifeform: "Germán Armando Plett’s knowledge was scraped together from the ‘Deutsche La Plata Zeitung’ (German La Plata Newspaper) and the nightly German radio broadcasts he was devoted to." << shortwave broadcast is dying, I guess because internet
undata: asciilifeform: thank you sir; I will
punkman: Azelphur offered to do it couple of days ago, but too late I guess
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman is off the deedbot project after the horrid failure of the past month << I accept that
mircea_popescu: as soon as varnish catches on, i guess.
asciilifeform: (the first work i've chanced into on this subject, in many years, that isn't a regurgitation of old, tired pablum)
PeterL: "NDkxNDIwODUyMDg4fDY5LjE2Mi42NC44Mg== What's anon talking about" I think it got longer?
PeterL: aha, I see. please don't ban me
mircea_popescu: then if i see my stuff republished on mfa farms/whatever later on, it's trivial to ban the leech.
mircea_popescu: i used it extensively in the 2010-2011 period to identify and ban content spinners
mircea_popescu: PeterL i even excluded your parser from teh branding programme
kakobrekla: 5 is better i guess idk rss sucks scam
PeterL: I think it might have been 15 minutes when I first made it?
kakobrekla: i just find the whole fetch command thing silly.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was like a half hour
kakobrekla: actually i can just make assbot pm scoopbot 'fetch' every 30 seconds and noone will ever know i fixed it.
cazalla: you wouldn't bother playing it for the payouts but i'm sure someone for who $2 a day is a lot would find it worthwhile
cazalla: asciilifeform, but this app pays out the moment it awards you, i'm trying to think of a homer simpson drinking bird means of doing it but no go
cazalla: i don't know if anyone saw that ipad game that pays out 0.0001.. i fucked around with it for an hour or so and earned 0.0003, i'm sure some indian is setting up a sweatshop to farm it 24/7 as we speak
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2015 17:57:08; kakobrekla: i dont get this scoopbot 30 min delay + fetch command. when i setup rss feed for herr vulpes jenkins (which is now offline for some reason) i hit it once a minute cause i give no fucks. no need for this -fetch nonsense if you change the interval to something saner.
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/rleY22W.png
mircea_popescu: i recall reading that yeah
PeterL: flash sucks, I seem to remember reading they are no longer supporting Linux platforms for thier new updates?
PeterL: heh, I think that is my first bashed line :)
PeterL: One thing I like about qntra is that, unlike lots of other news site, there are no auto-playing videos on EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE. bleh, stupid media sites
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with peripheral hairs, is what i'm saying. the idea is to not have hair in the core, on the liver, inside the lungs.
mircea_popescu: "I do not now nor will I ever care about the "readability" or "elegance" of (codebases worth 5 bux)."
RagnarDanneskjol: re molokization of deedbot v2.0 - no idea what you're talkin about? has nothing to do with me. also don't recall pestering anyone here ever..once in a blue moon I will ask questions in pm if I'm not authed/voiced.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: "I do not now nor will I ever care about the "readability" or "elegance" of codebases worth 5 bux." << These are things that the programmer should care about, because he will have to maintain the thing in the future.
RagnarDanneskjol: ng too I believe.
RagnarDanneskjol: my understanding is the first bot went down b/c my friend disi found a server vulnerability which I promptly brought to your attention (I originally recommended you NOT have moloko do admin / continued development b/c I knew he was not suited for it). I followed the recent convo here and lead me to understand the only issue with punkbot was the vps got flooded and shut down...that's punkman's understandi
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no idea. the last attempt to resuscitate v2.0 died on the 5th ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-01-2015#965645 ) and that's that. ☝︎
PeterL: From Trilema "Jobs Board" post: "You are expected to negotiate your own pay." << This is where I demand 1200 USD/mo for upkeeping scoopbot, right?
BingoBoingo: I imagine molokization refers to socially engineered time sink where thing works, obstacle, thing goes off the rails
asciilifeform: what, precisely, are the plausible worlds here. i can really think of just one - it lost db, and author pulled it down ?