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phf: i think a proper cuntoo doesn'
t even need x11, bash scripts, lynx and framebuffer to render images if need be
mircea_popescu: if you don'
t own it, who the fuck does ? daytime tv starlets ? fat brown women behind fast food counter ? who ?
phf: there's two sbcl apologists further in thread, one of them saying "I don'
t mind provocative /per se/, but what you were saying gives the a| impression that SBCL is willfully bad, as opposed to in development. But lumping it in with willfully noncompliant systems for this reason, | given it's version number, is inappropriate." and the other one is a core dev saying that they might add it. of course the expected behavior is still not there
phf: source reading can be a preprocessor stage (which is a lot saner to do in common lisp than elsewhere), this is also how traditional tex handles orclangs, before xetex and luatex and such. special ascii sequences to represent local lang glyphs and if you don'
t want to write those by hand, you use (or write) a tool that takes a local encoded document and translates it into ascii
mircea_popescu: she can'
t read it nor is she intended to read it. find/beg/pay someone to get it back to smileys state first.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-20 19:00 trinque: I dunno why orcograms aren'
t done the same way as image formats. doesn'
t need to be built into the OS.
trinque: I wasn'
t, so I'll let you continue on that
trinque: I dunno why orcograms aren'
t done the same way as image formats. doesn'
t need to be built into the OS.
☟︎ phf: but specifically it was small annoyances with "modern" enforcements. like style warnings, or my personal pet peeve, the fact that you can'
t shadow locked packages without having to unlock
phf: asciilifeform: you know after staring at a lot of bad c code and last two days worth of conversations, i don'
t think there's much wrong with sbcl, but then i haven'
t looked at sbcl code in about a year at this point. i think i was mostly objecting to overall trajectory of lisp ecosystem
phf: i think he doesn'
t like that they keep poaching his changes back into official cvs
diana_coman: heh, in good old traditions of a long-gone world and age, eulorans are rather suspicious of change and they aren'
t old even!!
mircea_popescu: but look on the bright side danielpbarron : if that process ain'
t making you a scientist, nothing will.
mircea_popescu: i just get pissy when my brilliant ideas can'
t be implemented like, the next day.
mircea_popescu: "mp, why isn'
t your infinite world update, announced LAST YEAR, live yet ?!?!" "because ints don'
t work on computers. also because merely rewriting the crypto layer ain'
t fucking enough. and also because FUCK YOUR UGLY ASS MOTHER AND THE IDIOT DRUNKS SHE KEEPS FUCKING, FUCKO!"
mircea_popescu: phf let's stick to factuals. 1. is groff or is groff not a "free and open" gnu theft of troff ; 2. was or was not groff a thinly veiled excuse by at&
t coders who wanted a pdp to get it, because "they'll make a patents editing system" ? 3. did they or did they not simply copy roff, 1960s era item ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what to say, we're like multiple cycles deep into rhetoric here, inception style. i will say though, all this misdirected hate can'
t be good for digestion, i fear for asciilifeform, he might crack under questioning
mircea_popescu: i honestly didn'
t even fish "soelim" out of the zsazsagabordaemon
shinohai: What *doesn'
t* Ubuntu have in it?
mircea_popescu: the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people they can'
t possibly say "to hell with ye"
trinque: no idear, I haven'
t gotten it to work.
trinque: mhm, I don'
t think the menuconfig step can be avoided for a serious kernel.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 17:43 asciilifeform: trinque: i'm particularly curious re how you trimmed modules. many crapolade modules don'
t give any obvious indication that they are useless, there is no mechanism for generating a list of 'THESE we actually need, because of the installed iron, and these -- not'
mircea_popescu: what was it, somewhere in canada "old castle" of "vampires" which oddly consist of california feminist can'
t-shut-up zsa zsa gabors v2010.
mircea_popescu: now try predicting movies i'd like and hadn'
t already seen.
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder he and norton didn'
t end up married. he could have implanted all the tit fat they scooped out of angelina jolie and adopted a buncha west african urchins.
mircea_popescu: in other not-really-news, 1408 (cussack, jackson) isn'
t even that terrible.
trinque: isn'
t bash capable of netcat-style networking these days?
trinque: that, whatever else, don'
t recall now. sound maybe, other strange.
trinque: aha, were I making my own ebuild/makefile/whatever for emacs, it simply *wouldn'
t have* dbus support and fuck you.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, no. i haven'
t used obsd for years. and by used i mean tried to install again
trinque will keep a few unixes around, needn'
t marry only one
mircea_popescu: symmetry didn'
t work like teh author imagined it would.
danielpbarron: hm, this site is hard to read, and i can'
t imagine this is actually correct, but my CAKE might be worth 3.3 BTC ...
phf: yes, i think so, though i will further add that's not question of just diff, but rather the mismatch between mechanical actions and serialization format in general (there's a lot of bad examples, like dreamweaver, word, etc. and i can'
t recall any good examples)
trinque: meh, folks are gonna make money where it's available, doesn'
t excuse avoiding the forum.
mircea_popescu: wasn'
t nintento the original winner of the ipod hunger games, where boys had one in pocket at all times ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dja know what's 80% of "halp can'
t log into eulora anymore" ?
sonic3: yea, don'
t let me keep you, i feel like i've jumped into a bigger picture here
sonic3: wasn'
t using this nickname
mircea_popescu: and why i didn'
t come to the same conclusion as alf, "more memory is better". not for me, i have enough for what i use it for.
mircea_popescu: hence, nothing to be ashamed of. but ALSO can'
t just pretend it ain'
t there lalala.
mircea_popescu: it is a very naive notion this, "i don'
t need to, i understand". you, odds aren, don'
t, and this isn'
t something to be ashamed of.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 20:01 diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw I read it as in went through it line by line and with pencil and paper; ran it too at the end, played a bit around with tests and that; and since we are at this, nitpick: in FZ_Swap why
T:=X if already initialised at declaration or what am I missing of Ada in there?
phf: well, that goes back to the meaning question. with code i don'
t get ascii codes as ints and then have to paper out the actual text before i can work out meaning. in fact what i do put on paper is almost never related to the written code itself. in the case of mechanical graphics though, my first step is ascii-to-characters
mircea_popescu: "no i don'
t need to" "why do you think this ?" "stop bothering me, troll."
mircea_popescu: yes you can derive meaning, and of the exact same kind in both cases. but you flatter yourself with that kind being "true meaning" in the first case because you can, and you can'
t in the second so you don'
t.
mircea_popescu: phf was your idea that "well maybe you just don'
t have a very clear picture of what x was in the first place, gotta press to it" ? ie, accumulating mental errors over the patch flow to GET TO x ?
phf: you don'
t necessarily need to go from state to state, you can understand the nature of change by reading the vpatch
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the differ and rendered for the ~diffs~ is significantly different from what our current foundation is. so in principle i don'
t see an issue with svg, as long as you can get the ~diff~ out of the vpatch itself, rather than say, pressing original, pressing new and then eyeballing the differences.
mircea_popescu: this isn'
t for going to war with ; this is for checking out the tool(s) with.
mircea_popescu: trinque exactly my tho9ughts. "i don'
t want to go there. yet."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's unfortunate that hashes can'
t hash meaning, but then again we're stuck with babbage looking over one shoulder and turing over the other.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the important, v-powered realisation here : there can NOT BE such a thing as bit-ambiguity in a source. if "this bit being either set or null has no effect" you have a problem, which must be addressed. because it sure as fuck isn'
t acceptabru to read diffs of style in a patch. patches are for substantive change.