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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: and ? what does this prove other than that girl playing house knocks on wall of cardboard box before entering ?
asciilifeform: what in this case means yeshiva if not 'log highlighting and dissection' , out of curiosity ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 03:18 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680532 << at one time we had a fella ( pete_dushenski ? ) embark on a 'major life and times of the l0g' thing. what became of this ?
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680613 << i undertook 'yeshiva' which didn't explicitly involve log highlighting and dissection even if it sometimes turned out that way. i should actually make a separate category on the ol' blog for #t logs levitan'd ☝︎
pete_dushenski: you think anyone takes usg's ip racket seriously anymore ? this isn't then 1960s
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: modern-day .il is a parasitic rider on usg -- and not merely in the well-known 'free money' sense, but also in that the ~only exports are 'intellectual property' racket, which rides on usg's patent enforcement shakedown ☟︎
pete_dushenski: lol gotta love that bitbet is back... o brother what a gongshow.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'm more inclined to liken the 'new' .il to that of 'new' china : sucks up resources of imploding empire for as long as the going is good all while increasing self-sustainability and military capability. israel might be socialist but they're nowhere near as soft-bodied as the decaying west. closer to .su-.cn hybrid than .su-.us hybrid.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: relying on translators suxx. you oughta know that.
pete_dushenski: or maybe translation is a project for otherwise loose cannons (eg. adlai )
shinohai: Good here, thanks. Up to my eyebrows in home projects.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: currently hitting language barrier tho, gotta strengthen my .il-foo
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the moar i dig, the moar i buy the thesis
pete_dushenski: not totally sure i buy the thesis but i can see where it comes from. at the very least current-day .co.il has 'chechens' to actively oppress, unlike us which just beats the piss out of itself.
asciilifeform: ( who first 'peace with british', despite the british being the folx nailing the door of nazi europe shut; afterwards -- 'peace with arab' )
asciilifeform: picture, the original was something vaguely tmsr-flavoured. replaced -- with the familiar socialists and misc. quislings
pete_dushenski: aha, i recall that thread well
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 14:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very funny that jew thing you dug out. literally, the ENTIRE argument is "hey, let us scam you, because that's what goverments do, and if the goyim see us scamming you they'll believe w r government".
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 23:16 asciilifeform: ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel'
a111: Logged on 2015-09-09 22:08 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'hagana' et al set the gold standard for blowing up brits, aha
pete_dushenski: looks like this one ? http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-09#1268888 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: i have several such pieces on teh zion, neh ?
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i noticed pete_dushenski had a piece re israel -- were you awake for the hagana thread ?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: blackzilla is enjoying the seasonal weather more than i'm enjoying the seasonal smoke. being downwind of the massive bc fires isn't doing wonders for the ol' respiratory tract. (waking up coughing, etc.) . needless to say i've a newfound appreciation for the sorry denizens of chinese mega-cities. it's one of those "you never know what you've got until it's gone" (tm) things ☟︎
asciilifeform: which makes the whole thing quite vulnerable. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the need to use un-NATed boxes as proxies, so that NATed boxes can speak with one another, creates star topologies ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is also a problem pertinent to, e.g., mircea_popescu's 'uci' and for that matter all botnet
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz : NAT is why there was never a fully 'p2p' w4r3ztron )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686912 << btw pwnat no longer works ~anywhere. i tried. ☝︎
mod6: bitbet is back? thought that guy vaporized?
asciilifeform: ( not counting the 2013 derpitude where they published 0 anythings )
asciilifeform is mildly surprised that there isn't, as of yet, such a thing
jurov: systemd on boot doing GET requests there in 3..2..1
jurov: they took djb's joke seriously ☟︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/07/19/this-is-a-story/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - This is a story.
mircea_popescu: "html trier-and-errorer" doesn't have the same ring to it.
mircea_popescu: people today have very litle mental adherence to that ancient "nothing's heavier than earth" thing. kinda why making chicks mudfight is good for their brainbox.
mircea_popescu: the machines ? good god, they could forgive anything.
mircea_popescu: it was a great accomplishment for a bunch of people who had a very direct experience of the hardness of soil, worked with hand-made tools pulled by sick horses and pregnant wives -- and i mean this literally.
trinque: "yes corn, BUT THEN!"
trinque: ah it's your towards purpose thing, of course.
mircea_popescu: twasn't, per se, "gotta have... corn! as far as the eye can see" in any way or in any sense other than the 1950s romanians being impressed with the ro commies "a LINE OF TRACTORS! 100 deep!!!"
trinque: just make the HTML coders all grow their own damn food, keep them occupied. not as "envirowhiner" but "hands full, own life in them"
mircea_popescu: trinque the picture of sad yet resplendent idiocy over time comes into much better focus if one comes to term with the saddest fact of all : at every juncture and throughout, everyone really meant well.
trinque: gotta have... corn! as far as the eye can see
mircea_popescu: "I'm now an HTML coder at a startup in San Francisco. The &ldquo;World Wide Web&rdquo; has enabled me to crawl out of my debt-hole and bootstrap myself into the lower middle class. For the first time in my adult life, I can afford to <b>eat</b> in restaurants where I don't<b> work.</b" << if anyone's curious or keeping score, THIS is what impels all the dizzy dorks of today. their very own VHS tapes, if you will.
trinque: guess I'm wrong about the proportions of ddt use re: ag. I have counted mass-production of The American Dream among the place's sins.
mircea_popescu: (at the time, soviet industry more or less indian industry today)
mircea_popescu: cheap to make, pretty much everyone with a chem plant made some. which is how the soviets ended up using it.
BingoBoingo: US was definitely big user though, river valleys in Mid west all malarial north to Chicago until the chemming
mircea_popescu: "and this is how my grandfather built brighton"
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'll rack the "us--major player in ddt history" up there with "apple could buy russia" and all other self-referential wank.
asciilifeform: was used in su almost to last days
mircea_popescu: but ftr -- first that banned it was hungary ; and generally the warsaw pact. not teh us.
mircea_popescu: arguably won a few battles in south pacific theatre.
mircea_popescu: trinque ironically, most of what ended up in the ocean was dumoped there by us army trying to replicate successful european usage.
mircea_popescu: (and ftr, the usians had been whining about it just about since ww2. rando with a "book" on the topic is about as relevant as pink.)
trinque: was being used in agriculture, which I'd wager is where most of the bulk of what ended up in the ocean originated
mircea_popescu: ddt is entirely euro item. invented by swiss, used to clear europe of eg malaria. euros changed their mind in the 60s
trinque: the whole thing is based upon "mass produced idiot should be fed, gonna have to mass produce whatever 3 crops and feed them their derpmeal"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And exposed to oxygen and sunlight they survive how long? Proximity to factory would be bigger concern than proximity to deployment.
mircea_popescu: o look, wikipedia manages a very uscentric view of things and items lol. mk.
mircea_popescu: is the next proposition going to be "michael moore matters" ?
trinque: should stop the mass production of food instead : solved.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik the thing was, much like "clean engine exhaust", entirely euro-nonsense.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they are 'available' in whole usa, stuck to fruits, vegetables, sprayed into lawns etc
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced that cumulative ( and yes -- mega-seekrit, it is ) damage to nervous system from organophosphates, beats ddt << Where do you live that wealth of organophosphates are still available with indoor labeling? Around here store shelves have Malathion - outdoors, Carbaryl - outdoors, and Dichlorvos - unoccupied enclosed spaces and bagged bedding in war on bedbugs
asciilifeform: the stopping had far moar to do with ustard pro concerntrolls than toxicology.
mircea_popescu: in the case of ddt, they went to the trouble to stop.
trinque: one thing in common is that nobody involved had any idea what they were doing
trinque: they're all going in; what's this "the one thing they don't want you to know about dead fish"
mircea_popescu: this is not terribly true, sadly.
mircea_popescu: and i'm not discussing other items. the thesis was this one, not "this one compared to arbitrary others"
asciilifeform: fukushima does 0 on the timescale a fish lives on.
mircea_popescu: well, we ate them, we fukushima'd them, for a while we also ddt'd them. we still plastic slush them, it's a large ocean.
asciilifeform: or that it had anything to do with the scarcity of oceanic edibles ( we -- ate them )
BingoBoingo: Mosquitoes are outdoor problem so you get to use BTi, which as complex protein is harmless unless immune system is bored and decides to bake an allergy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced that cumulative ( and yes -- mega-seekrit, it is ) damage to nervous system from organophosphates, beats ddt
mod6: i suppose the only non-toxic way to get rid of the nearby mosquitoes is to buy up all the surrounding properties and then take a flame thrower to the lawns.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'd much rather eat it, than anything sold nao << Any more the only things labeled for indoor use are permethrins
mircea_popescu: the other half of it being that it is very toxic to fish ; back then people still had this strange notion that oceans will continue populated in the indefinite future.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no. i recall the faggots, not yet VERY overweight, going to the things that meanwhile got captured by apple, much like coca-cola captured xmas << In elementry school historical context for the then present was established to be "on the verge of paradise, if only we stop littering" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem with ddt was bioaccumulation. it was the original spark for a lot of the current understanding of "why it is bad to eat agroindustrial shit". ddt is weakly toxic, but it and metabolites accumulate, get stored in fat, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: and a little teratogenic.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> removal of ddt was one of the original triumphs of rampant envirowhinery. << "it softens up the eagle eggs!!1"
mircea_popescu: aaaahahahaha o brother. "postmodern film/video theory & crit with an emphasis on phenomenology" ? reheheheally. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (o look, even with inept 90s "web drm" technologees!) http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/almostguy/images/vansex_color.gif << such an inconvenient fuck position. you really gotta be a virgin to think this is where it's at.
asciilifeform: re space wasps << mircea_popescu: ever see 'Les Maîtres du temps' (animated) ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'wasps? no prob, open the airlock a bit'
asciilifeform: i'm almost surprised they don't assume orbit
asciilifeform: i'd still rather not pump it into the space b/w (hollow, ustard-built) walls.
mircea_popescu: anyway. straight alcohol, like the 99 proof stuff for making at home liqueur. fire hazard, but otherwise repellent and killer of bugs.
asciilifeform: raccoon, i think.
asciilifeform: had one of these here
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/viesparium/ << there.
mircea_popescu: with the wasps laid out after
mircea_popescu: i have instructional set of pics on trilema even
mircea_popescu: if its a paper wasp colony, destroing the nest is usually enough.
asciilifeform: ( or anything else that happily eats through drywall )
asciilifeform: duct tape is not mega-obstacle for wasp.