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user705: positions is just the need for variety. normal human function there.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside who the fuck cares what the pron dudes do. what, i'm going to fuck a girl in that god-awful position of her straddling with her back to me because there's a camera in my livingroom too ?
PeterL: ah, I guess my question is answered by having the "challenge pattern", which I guess you give to new contacts when you give them your pubkey
user705: not at all. my original point was that the eating out of chicks is coming back into vogue so to speak because of the wide availability of porn where the mail talent is larger then average thus genpop of males is more conscious of making sure a female finishes ergo more eating out
mircea_popescu: user705 are you proposing the emperor changed his private customs to suit the habits of the just-beheaded aristocracy ?
asciilifeform: or rotting redditfood in dumpster creates the fly.
user705: at the time of the letters he was not though
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could propose they were some sort of minor nobility or whatever, but it's at best tenuous. for all intents and purposes napoleon was a sort of hitler, lower middle class at best.
user705: I mistyped that
user705: if anything the letters of napoleon show the opposite. obviously eating out didn't get invented yesterday but if anything what the royal monarch did it was not for the plebes
asciilifeform: PeterL: that's guaranteed to work.
PeterL: I understand the "decrypt with each key until the message looks like a good message", but I was trying to think of the algorith for saying "that must be a good message"?
asciilifeform: entirely and completely cremating whatever motherfucking point their worthless piece of shit had for a justification of existence to begin with ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the tards dynamicallylinked libc
PeterL: no, I was thinking: friend sends you message, now you have to pick a key to decrypt with
BingoBoingo: <mod6> ok asciilifeform, dropped "OpenBSD64 4.8 binary" on my obsd 5.6. reason being, is that that version seems to be the only x86_64 version?? not sure there. but it /looks/ promising. after extracting the binaries, tried to use it to gnatmake fact + ffa, but was unsuccessful because: << Gotta use OBSD 4.8, binaries are not compatible across .1 revisions
asciilifeform: rather than intended recipient. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 22:40 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-22#1689243 << depends what you mean by "rsa encrypted message". a) current rsa "encryption" as implemented by koch-gpg et al consists of encrypting a symmetric key. trivial to test this against a number of rsa keys. b) conceivably item will include a courtesy key fp to help you know.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-22#1689257 << lol for some reason i assumed he was asking about whether ~enemy~ can tell, from traffic ☝︎
deedbot: shinohai rated sina 1 << Python mp-fhf works as advertised, though I suggest http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/ for future license.
mod6: for the apt-student, im sure all of the emails are still out there on their majordomo or whatever the fuck.
asciilifeform: well, before this last attempt
mod6: this is all pre SMP type shit, and trying to figure all of that out. ofc, my memory is a bit sketchy, that was like ... 14 years ago.
mod6: it seemed to have a slow decline from there.
mod6: as far as freebsd, I feel like the 4.3 was pretty good, but there was a lot of in-fighting regarding technical decisions. this lead to Matt Dillon leaving and forking dragonfly.
PeterL: I like the name cuntoo, it's catchy
mod6: (re: reading from the rs232, and now this, ya.)
mod6: i've honestly had a bitch of a time with it recently.
asciilifeform: mod6: i have yet to hear of ANY actual argument in favour of wasting yet moar hours of life on bsd.
mod6: not a huge surprise, perhaps with all the right things in place (if that's even possible) and it "works" then one could build a real one from it's source.
asciilifeform sets the final bozo bit on openbsd and everyone involved
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm using the i386, on old lappy, and it dies similarly
mod6: ok asciilifeform, dropped "OpenBSD64 4.8 binary" on my obsd 5.6. reason being, is that that version seems to be the only x86_64 version?? not sure there. but it /looks/ promising. after extracting the binaries, tried to use it to gnatmake fact + ffa, but was unsuccessful because:
mircea_popescu: in the worst case it is not trivial to compute the fingerprint of an unknwn key that can decrypt an impredictable plaintext.
mircea_popescu: even without b, there are numeric methods to sort out whether your keys will work or not, such as trying each one.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 22:32 PeterL: so I wanted to make sure I understood this correctly, if you have an RSA encrypted message, you cannot say which key it was encrypted to just by looking at it, right?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-22#1689243 << depends what you mean by "rsa encrypted message". a) current rsa "encryption" as implemented by koch-gpg et al consists of encrypting a symmetric key. trivial to test this against a number of rsa keys. b) conceivably item will include a courtesy key fp to help you know. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-22#1689234 <<< with their continued existence. "bitcoin" exchanges === tor. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 22:24 PeterL: (I have been thinking about gossipd, it is a fascinating subject)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ( recall, you can't build gnat without gnat ) << yeah, was the reason i asked. hehe
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 21:57 user705: read somewhere that the whole eating pussy thing has gained popularity only recently because of big dicks in porn
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-22#1689201 << nonsense, read napoleon's letters to the j-slut. ☝︎
mod6: asciilifeform: with dragonlace, are you testing with binaries or are you pulling from the src repo?
PeterL: so for gossipd, I get a message, and (assuming it was encrypted to me) I can tell which of my keys it was encrypted to
asciilifeform: ( a is elementary, and you can do with bare hands. b is trickier but entirely doable, how many you need varies based on bit count of modulus )
PeterL: so I wanted to make sure I understood this correctly, if you have an RSA encrypted message, you cannot say which key it was encrypted to just by looking at it, right? ☟︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i'm about to attempt openbsd gnat << sweet, let me know how it goes, i've got a obsd box.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: ever tried any of http://www.dragonlace.net gnats ? << ah no, not yet
PeterL: yeah, I was wondering about how it was horrid, but then later you suggested it as a good idea, I see the difference is having two separate keys encrypting the two parts
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 01:11 asciilifeform: so one ~horrid~ padding algo would be to get a bitstring from my rng, xor the message to it, then send a message of 2x length of original consisting of: [the bitstring from rng][the result of the xor]
asciilifeform: PeterL: re rsa 'padding', see also thread http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1589901 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( why not go to usg mint and 'bribe' them to print for you some moolah ? )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'bribing exchanges' to shitcoin, lol
PeterL: (I have been thinking about gossipd, it is a fascinating subject) ☟︎
asciilifeform: in my draft of 'g', they went in udpgram.
asciilifeform: ( lessay you HAD to use a block cipher, and want to combine aes, serpent, and gost, such that to GUARANTEE the best strength of the 3 )
PeterL: could they be put into one udp-gram, like decrypt the first half with key one, and the second half with key two, then xor to get message?
asciilifeform: the described scheme is identical to the one for adding cipher strenghts in 'best of'.
asciilifeform: otherwise it may be possible to build a lattice and solve.
asciilifeform: no, they gotta be unrelated keys.
PeterL: sufficient to work as message padding for rsa-grams?
PeterL: is it sufficient to put x and y together, or does it only work if they are sent to two different keys?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/swedish-railroad-consults-masses-trainy-mctrainface-results/ << Qntra - Swedish Railroad Consults Masses: Trainy McTrainface Results
BingoBoingo: user705: Well, you get your penis hard and you stick it in the outside world. If you aren't sure of the safety of doing so at the time, you may begin with broomstick.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-14 19:19 asciilifeform: specifically, for every byte you intend to send, you instead send two: x, y. which you generate by obtaining rng byte r, and payload byte b, and x := b xor r, y := r
PeterL: In the scheme described http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-14#1613906 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'm about to attempt openbsd gnat
asciilifeform: mod6: ever tried any of http://www.dragonlace.net gnats ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 17:12 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at teh club, http://68.media.tumblr.com/90688d90d3207ffb7a2d1179f07c9b10/tumblr_o915ywAHth1vshvsro1_1280.jpg
user705: apologies but last question on the email thing. what about exchanges, localbitcoin, etc... gotta be some way of interacting with the outside world is there really no place for email here?
BingoBoingo: It happens because girl is present, erections are the limiting factor in fucking, and girl's still there to interact with.
user705: the tit sucking thing is bound to be a leftover from childhood but certainly not eating a chick out
user705: read somewhere that the whole eating pussy thing has gained popularity only recently because of big dicks in porn ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> honestly i'd rather work on that tuna. << Tongue is a collection of muscles that can condition for endurance!
mircea_popescu: i don't particularly want to be as flexible as a vixen willow in any case.
user705: yeah flexibility will always be a losing battle since their bodies were designed to pop out clones but stamina is just a matter of conditioning
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd rather work on that tuna.
BingoBoingo: gotta work on that stamina
mircea_popescu: so i joined the whores going to the gym. my first time in a gym at that! it was discovered that yes i'm a lot more powerful than they are, but i have neither the flexibility nor the endurance. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Simply but a string in that isn't formatted unlike an email address, at least on qntra
BingoBoingo: user705: It's an iq test/spam filter element. If email address is an email address comment not marked spam on that point. Is email address used for anything else? no
user705: my old brain wants to say "but how ..."
user705: even on qntra and trilemma it asks for one I guess the question is what option is less bad
asciilifeform: not really. what's the point
user705: is this guide still more or less valid http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/
user705: learning to properly do this btc
asciilifeform: or certainly nobody both thought + implemented.
asciilifeform: i find it interesting that -- afaik -- nobody in actual asia thought of EITHER approach.
asciilifeform: a clever man might be able to think of something involving vectorized 'brush strokes' rather than raster. might be moar searchable. but inevitably moar complex also.
asciilifeform: and it 'sits on the cock AND eats the fish', in that hieroglyphists get ( if painfully ) to have their nonsense, BUT they also get to feel what it actually costs. and at the same time NO explicit support for any particular hieroglyph clutters yours or my box.
asciilifeform: it's a mighty mouthful to say 1 word 'whore', BUT it compresses ok -- even if all you use is runlength code.
asciilifeform: now cut it down the middle vertically, and walk left to right, and you get the 32 bytes.
asciilifeform: at the cost of a bit of log clutter, let's indulge asciilifeform's crackpottery, and lay out 妓 ( U+5993 : whore ) : ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> mebbe you inprinted on teh sideways glance. << /me suspects this is how alf evals chix, sideways glance suggest greater activity than staring
asciilifeform: i dun even give a fuck whether chinese get to write their hieroglyphs . but i'd like to insert occasional nabla or whatnot , greek etc without swapping code pages.
asciilifeform: ( and keeps compressor where it belongs - simple and on the generic outside, rather than specific per monkeylang )
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 32byte thing will compress ok. just like earthling langs do.
asciilifeform: and what day of menses the menstruade used as ink was from aha
mircea_popescu: chinese matron requires to know whether author was drunk at time of writing.
asciilifeform: let'em suck it and be happy that they get to write their monkeylang at all.