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asciilifeform: diana_coman ( and mircea_popescu , when he wakes up ) -- do you have a position on http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2963#selection-2087.0-2115.72 ?
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news (local enough asciilifeform walked by the location in question) https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/toma-de-rehen-en-una-peluqueria-de-pocitos-obligo-a-sitiar-la-zona-2019110143314
asciilifeform: errywhere else there's a massive noise component
asciilifeform: sorta 90% of the reason i want a dos gnat
asciilifeform: the ultimate tester would be a dos box
asciilifeform: aaand to round off : it vanished on the test box also. culprit appears to have been a running raid-verify job... ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: btw the thing that set asciilifeform's ears standing originally, is that the gcd test battery appeared to give +/- 30% variant runtimes depending on hamming weights. but in 20 repeats of the trial set, the same thing showed up, and with no correlation to hamming weight. and a http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wherN/?raw=true ( soft barrelshifter ) version now ends up showing... same thing. i suspect that some peculiarity of the pipeline is
mircea_popescu: hey Mocky : i need a buncha noob clicks done in eulora ; can you spend a coupla hours one of these days ?
mircea_popescu: billymg can just put a patch atop your tree.
billymg: hanbot: thanks for checking it out, i'll take a look at the "no newline" issue and see if i can get rid of it
mircea_popescu: and today being january, let us celebrate the SECOND year yossi kreinin failed to engage the utter destruction of his inept nonsense found in http://trilema.com/2017/my-ai-problems-a-humble-confession/
lobbes: auctionbot was down for ~9 hours today (back online now). I'm going to give a 100 ecu per auction hour credit to everyone who had auctions going during this downtime, since no one could put in bids during that time and I don't wanna charge fees for those hours. Thinking I'll make this standard policy going forward
asciilifeform: this means not only slightly slower gcd than the draft posted earlier (it'll need a mux) but it also means that e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch14/fz_qshft__adb.htm#111_14 was in fact leaking, albeit undetectable on the tests given in ch14, and will need mandatory HaveBarrelShifter = 0 (i.e. 5% or so penalty)
mircea_popescu: was a point in iirc 2015 when it was "get new client or can't connect"
mircea_popescu: client went through two major and a bunch of minor versions.
asciilifeform: there are so many and I'm only one << i admit that i'm a little curious why diana_coman & mircea_popescu dun enlist Mocky to carry on client dev -- but it's not my biz , if they dun feel like going into subj, i won't cry
diana_coman: and yes, I'd much rather use gnatmake for the whole pile of shit but atm the idea was to focus on a *different* part of the shit, since there are so many and I'm only one
diana_coman: yes, a ton of ugh
diana_coman: yet another tool that "makes building simple" don't you know; eulora's client has a WHOLE pile of scripts on top of jam on top of autotools and all that
diana_coman: ffs jamfile shit: I did not have a space between lib name and ; so it...silently ignored it and ate my time grrrr
ave1: I can do some experimentation, but this will take a bit longer (got to go now...)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 17:06 mircea_popescu: "But the type conversion rules for pointers are not so easily duped; there are no "classwide pointers" (thought perhaps life would be different if there were!). " << motherfucker on a stick, i want "classwide pointers" ie, "this door ambiguously links to any of the mcdonalds not any specific one" as i want to wake up to being assfucked by chtulhu.
asciilifeform actually considered a fortran ffa, in '16
asciilifeform: the world of the folx who wrote ada for moneys in the saeculum, is not , as i gather, a happy place. sorta why asciilifeform had to learn buncha things from 1st principles, rather than by reading their ugh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i suspect 'greybeard'. prolly he also had a 200kloc (or 2e6...) that had to be dealt with as-is, pointerola & all.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: hey, if microshit can have weev jailed for munging URLs, why not acade-microshit and some other d00d , similarly << There is still lulz to play out. He's being prosecuted in university research court (similar to University title ix court), unlikely to be fired, but if he is the bar will be lowered. Maybe to the point we can have a fire PSU faculty bot.
mircea_popescu: "But the type conversion rules for pointers are not so easily duped; there are no "classwide pointers" (thought perhaps life would be different if there were!). " << motherfucker on a stick, i want "classwide pointers" ie, "this door ambiguously links to any of the mcdonalds not any specific one" as i want to wake up to being assfucked by chtulhu. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "This is neatly decomposed (ha!) into a class hierarchy:" << guy's pretty cool.
asciilifeform: ( phuctor connects to a local instance of postgres, so in that sense similar )
asciilifeform: aint there a multi-MB '3d' lib in there also ?
asciilifeform: it's a trb-like item
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the problem at hand : there's 200k loc in a hairball currently.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 17:28 asciilifeform: the 1st step to adaizing a cpp turd is to remove the cpp threadisms, they will not only not work with ada's sane tasking but actually destroy the guarantees of the latter
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886104 -> I seem to have missed this; ave1, did you find a way to expose the adainit for static libs? ☝︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: ( yes stein is a pretty simple item, quite unlike e.g. barrett, but still gotta give pedantic convergence proof for it )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 11:14 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885092 << i have a couple and the first one i bought i think had that issue, i didn't bother replacing it, and after first cleaning i believe it went away, or possibly i stopped noticing. the one at my office definitely has clean clicks on all they keys, so if it bothers you perhaps worth replacing
diana_coman: i.e. have it as a procedure, exposed and accessible from cpp
diana_coman: as it is specific to ada, a non-ada main has no idea (nor does it care) about it and therefore won't do it automatically; the only way to have it done is to call explicitly the "init" procedure for the Ada unit that is to be used; and the only way to *have* such an init procedure seems to be the standalone lib thing
diana_coman: a sort of "getting everything ready" for the program to run
diana_coman: re ada elaboration since apparently it's not summarised in the logs as such: it's basically the code that runs *before* the main program starts and what it does is broadly initializing variables that the main program may expect to be able to access (e.g. "global" or in libs that are used) and running the "main" code (aka between begin and end of a package as opposed to that in procedures/functions) from units that are used
mircea_popescu: are we thus the first to try and call an ada library from a c main ?
diana_coman: my trajectory in hitting walls on this was precisely that: make it static -> surprise, no adainit exported/included, checked the .a file and everything, went nuts; make it dynamic -> ugh, need -lgnat and whatnot; rtfm again and again, there is this calo-magar ☟︎
diana_coman: onth a static lib does not have the elaboration...
diana_coman: it has a donkey-horse as far as I can tell: a dynamic lib does not include all the code it requires so you'll need to further link /distribute stuff
diana_coman: basically the only way available to make a non-ada-main do the ada elaboration
mircea_popescu: da fuck is a "catamaran of butts in two boats" thingee.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885092 << i have a couple and the first one i bought i think had that issue, i didn't bother replacing it, and after first cleaning i believe it went away, or possibly i stopped noticing. the one at my office definitely has clean clicks on all they keys, so if it bothers you perhaps worth replacing ☝︎☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886041 << not a bug anymore (last year it was printed as a warning with no effects on the patch, effectively forcing newline always. i then adjusted vdiff to put correct "\ No newline.." directive, while vpatch knows to omit final newline when that directive is present) ☝︎
lobbes: trinque: I agree that I could use a more substantive grasp on the script as a whole (and will indeed study moar), however I want to say I'm at least understanding the bit in "create_user.sh" where it calls useradd and passwd, and then adds the $USER to etc/sudoers. I'm just missing -why- the user/password I set through useradd/passwd wasn't working when trying to login. Probably something elementary
a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 19:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785986 << i thought that it was just a helpful warning, but upon reflection i realized that this is actually a bug. investigating it further i took a wrong direction on a diff's command line flag switch, and as it stands if you see this warning it
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 04:31 billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/
trinque: it didn't set a password on root. it asked you what user you wanted to create.
mod6: *nod* I appreciate that asciilifeform, your eyes on such things always are a Good Thing. Not long after I post it, I'll be looking for people to help test the updated HOWTO guide too if anyone feels so inclined. (Please reach out if interested.)
mod6: And I think that makes sense, this isn't my personal project. How this work was done for the foundation should be a public facing thing, and reviewed by people before vpatches published.
mod6: Yeah, have already reground, indeed. This is a write up of how I did this.
asciilifeform: mod6: at the risk of sounding like mircea_popescu in earlier thread -- why is this a mega-project ? i reground ffa to keccak in about 10minute (after getting hold of a working keccak-vtron)
asciilifeform: might be interesting ( phf? ) to have a filter toggle that only shows people who are still alive
mircea_popescu: right, which is precisely what makes it a discussion about nothing.
asciilifeform: steps 3, 5, 6 take ~0. step 4 takes a certain yet-unknown time, which is a function of width(reg) and shots.
asciilifeform: nao, on a machine with 1 FG, step 1 takes ~36msec. every time.
asciilifeform: how 'many r-m shots' is a free variable tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform IF rm doesn't take much time, THEN i don't see the point of doing any gcd. because r-m is a complete test for what we need, and gcd is not.
asciilifeform: ( and that on iron where m-r ends up taking substantially less time than FG takes to fill up candidate reg, there may not be a point to pre-sieving )
asciilifeform: my observation was that on a box with 1 FG, the latter will almost certainly be the limiting reactant in prime-baking.
asciilifeform: on a machine with multiple FG harnessed together, divide the figure by the # of FG in use.
asciilifeform: let's say yer baking one of the p, q of a 4096bit rsa mod. it needs 2048bit , i.e. 256byte of FG. a standard FG at room temp shits out 7kByte/s. therefore 256 / (7 x 1024) ~= 0.0357 sec., for a fillup of candidate register.
asciilifeform: on a box with 1 FG, the wait for a random fillup of a e.g. 2048bit reg, i suspect dwarfs the runtime of stein (and possibly even of m-r, dunno yet)
asciilifeform: eh it's a , what, 1960s manuscript.
asciilifeform: ( and it aint a lie, i studied the burroughs arch, indeed was non-overflowistic iron )
mircea_popescu: in other sad lulz : etsy moved into the new york building where a scottish immigrant invented the prefab packaging box during the gilded age. who knows, maybe it rubs off ? maybe perhaps http://trilema.com/2016/the-%d0%ba%d0%b2%d0%b0%d1%81-bdsm-party/#comment-118604 ?
asciilifeform: 'There were people working behind the scenes trying to get the Symbolics VLM stuff legitimately released in some way to the hobbyist community - and this is likely to throw a wrench into that effort'
mircea_popescu: now it's like... hey, remember when bitcoin had JUST breached 1k and "mp is a billionaire" still "controversial" / difficult to swallow for the tards talking ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, twas a mere coupla billion. which, at the time, was an IMMENSE sum, that ceausescu had gathered together over decades of hard fucking work for his 20mn slavecrop.
BingoBoingo: Well, middle class fellow constantly held up by his peers as a party elite
mircea_popescu: the unsteady approach being in itself a great catalyst of both the paroxistic problem encountered and the incapacity for management displayed.
mircea_popescu: yeah, they ~party~ ie, don't keep a ready supply of the stuff (chemicals, biologicals) for whenever feel like, but rather whenever the "pipe" leaks something run out and buy some of each, twice a eyar or w/e.
mircea_popescu: somehow this doesn't bother them, "hey, our entire understanding of money is, let's get some schmuck a bunch of taxchest so he can http://trilema.com/2012/dan-voiculescu-acest-gunoi-abject/ all over."
BingoBoingo: Except cut a couple figures off for the US version
mircea_popescu: since when the fuck is 30k a sum of money.
mircea_popescu: He formerly served on the steering committee of the Stonewall Democratic Club. He has donated "nearly $30,000" to Democratic candidates like Hillary Clinton, Ted Lieu, Pete Aguilar and Raja Krishnamoorthi as well as the Getting Things Done PAC. << dude give me a fucking break ?
asciilifeform: it's a lul tho, the incas actually think they have 'literacy'
mircea_popescu: the odds a 20something ~black~ ~male~ actually keeping a journal are 10ppm or so ; having the capacity to even in principle do so 0.1% sorta deal
mircea_popescu: "Edward Bernard Peter Buckmelter began his career as a fashion model in Europe" keks.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the ridiculous notion " Gemmel Moore, a 26 year old male twink" was ~keepin a journal~. srsly ? with what ?
mircea_popescu: in short : it's a wonder there weren't two dozen.
mircea_popescu: that one in x thousand black gay-for-pay tards (who are also drug users, nqa) will od a year... gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: well, in all fairness to the http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/ cuck in question -- if your wife fucks a dozen or so "bulls" before they do you in the ass per week say, and it's been a hundred weeks, you're looking at five or so thousand of these having spent a day with you within the past half week, which is the "relation" standard contemplated.
BingoBoingo: From the text of the Qntra piece: "In the previous incident Gemmel Moore, a 26 year old male sex worker's death was ruled a drug overdose following an investigation which found numerous syringes and indicators of habitual methamphetamine use in Buck's home. According to Moore's journal, Buck introduced him to methamphetamine."
asciilifeform: the linked piece read like a 'bugger-for-meth' affair
asciilifeform: it takes ~same space as mouse, if you have a decent two-bricks-sized box
asciilifeform: well if it's a trad mouse you generally wouldn't
mircea_popescu: how are you to use a mouse w/o acceleration ?!
asciilifeform: oh hah, only a ~third of'em..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they are not. here, have a sampler http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ufhi6/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's testament to my famous capacity of fitting in -- comes from the fact i use as main profile pic a shot hanbot took in turkey, where i was being INCREDIBLY fucking fit-in.
mircea_popescu: u look like a goat fucker."
mircea_popescu: or, to quote from fetgirl, "mistey25 19F Switch Also an intelegence test? What makes you think you have what it takes to judge if someone is smart or not. There’s a quote from Albert Einstein “if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing it’s an idiot”. And you’re judging me based off of things you’re pulling out of your ass. Why don’t I give you a bit of judgement. Yo
mircea_popescu: (and, for completeness & rounding off [kek kek] of the "dating" reference yesterday : the ~other~ locus of man, other than "doing very well on a date", is sitting on a couch [of power] and pointing at which fancy fanciula he intends to sozomize next. just sayin'.)
mircea_popescu: there's two solutions to "x is painful" : a) make x', just-like-x-but-not-painful ; and b) use it in training, where pain is both desirable, useful and necessary.