asciilifeform: granted this aint recursive

asciilifeform: objdump --syms eulora | wc -l

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik in diana_coman's case it is trivial, cuz static link.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform does ~this for bread, currently, so arguably already condemned to this

asciilifeform: ( and asciilifeform -- trb ) etc

asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman already did some time in that joint , when walked koch's thing

asciilifeform: but cannot presently recall which

asciilifeform: loox familiar, i suspect it was in a trilema piece

asciilifeform: whore can look in guiness book and know approx what will have to take in. engineer on other hand will be given 'proggy may have to run on vax , and microshit, and ... '

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cocks have at least something resembling a bound parameter.

asciilifeform: whereas engineer entirely might be given such , as a routine matter

asciilifeform: whore in some ways has better working condition -- at least she knows will not have to fuck tyrannosaur. ☟︎

asciilifeform: vtronicism-ducttape.

asciilifeform: ^ all gnutardisms are fulla this. cuz otherwise fat change anyone could come up with even a helloworld that builds at all.

asciilifeform: that's the prime mover.

asciilifeform: originally cuz iron & os babel.

asciilifeform: ( witnessed in e.g. koch )

asciilifeform: can be computed at runtime.

asciilifeform: dynamic! it dun even gotta appear in the obj.

asciilifeform: ( with added 'bonus' that you dun even know ~which~ , necessarily, recall dload() )

asciilifeform: 'dynamic link' makes it 'easy' to pull in literally trillion symbols.

asciilifeform: cuz it pulls in ~whole box

asciilifeform: it does

asciilifeform: pogrommers. (in the words of an ex- asciilifeform chix )

asciilifeform: there's yer 'workable' set , right there, linked.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: spittoon -- is in 1 strand.

asciilifeform: in turn, foo.h churns, churns, 9000 new versions in 6 months, cuz c intrinsically is a '10 lines contain 14 bugs' lang by virtue of sheer obfuscatory ugh ( who can say e.g. how many off-by-ones in http://archive.is/89adR#selection-9.11980-9.13314 ? in all possible calling contexts.. )

asciilifeform: 'what if you have a vax-flavoured foo.h' etc

asciilifeform: the infestation is deep enuff that you quite obv could not make above example actually build reliably on any extant unix. the entire notion of 'portability' as pictured by unixtards (i.e. powered by #ifdefism) precludes it.

asciilifeform: even e.g. #include <foo.h:e432850de89226c6745301a5932e30c5b09f260b9c850a5e76e8119f66b2f06f1798156138a1741aeff9c46ab90ff1d8ad97d9c089c7d76991a8b7ea8b104bdf> would've been improvement

asciilifeform: ^ for instance

asciilifeform: !#s ifdefism

asciilifeform: and whole 'culture' of the lang is formed around this

asciilifeform: the proggies are shite not the least because author ~has nfi what he's throwing into the pot~

asciilifeform: from rampant 'substitute unlikes as likes' and onward

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unixtardism suffers from the full spectrum of the idjicies outlined in that 'what gets mircea_popescu raging' article

asciilifeform: and all , to naked eye, 'same'

asciilifeform: as it is, there could be 9000 variants of foo, and on same machine you'll find 900 of'em

asciilifeform: not simply 'fully qualified' , but with knowledge of wtf the item ~is~

asciilifeform: or even 'v absence'

asciilifeform: without saying where is foo

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the part where you can #include <foo.h>

asciilifeform holds that the gnu sepsis is a direct and inevitable result of ~how c worx~

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cuz it'd break ~100% of extant c soup

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a hack, of exactly that species ( see e.g. https://archive.is/vTHJi )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: adacorpse appears to be inbiz, but hard to say when last did anyffin useful ( see e.g. https://www.adacore.com/press )

asciilifeform: bvt: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/02/gnat-zero-cost-exceptions-and-asynchronous-task-aborting-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7

asciilifeform: *circa '04

asciilifeform had this 'third eye' moment some time circ '04 , when digging inside opensores lisps

asciilifeform: aaha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaah see on my planet kunstkammer is specifically peter's, with the 2headed foeti etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's prolly built by thumbsuction

asciilifeform: 'proof dun fit in the margin' lol

asciilifeform: holyfuq the opensores kunstkammer

asciilifeform: np mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: see linked thrd for what's what.

asciilifeform: ^ ave1 gnat mirrored , circa may 15 '18

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813753 << bvt et al ☝︎

asciilifeform: will bake new one

asciilifeform: iirc i uploaded a signed build... cant seem to find where grr

asciilifeform: poetteringed

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-19#516664 << ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ see also.

asciilifeform: !#s hard hat mack

asciilifeform: hrm.

asciilifeform: !#s osha and vandal

asciilifeform would like to dig up the worx of the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-16#446901 fella, but seems like the only surviving copy is in madrid national indianajoneswarehouse ☝︎

asciilifeform still not fully made sense of franco -- d00d was 'fuhrer' by sheer accident, after mola's plane crash , and possibly only won war cuz other side resembled gavin & co, 9000 rando 'hasta y per siempre' derpfactions

asciilifeform: ( hrusch had him buried, coupla steps away from mausoleum back door )

asciilifeform: to compare.

asciilifeform: would be interesting if stalin were dug up, he was given same process but 0 maintenance since mid-50s

asciilifeform: ( phunphakt, the lenin mummificator maintenance folx are still inbiz )

asciilifeform: is franco even mummified ? ( or is not caught up to ru 'high tech' !11 )

asciilifeform: very solid 'vhs america' feel to the thing, ~70kg of pb.

asciilifeform: beryllium muzzle of the 'gun' is center top of 2nd photo. auto-exposure ionization gauge is on bottom of 4th.

asciilifeform: in other noose, instrument pr0n : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/panel.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/inside1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/achtung.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/inside2.jpg

asciilifeform: happy bd BingoBoingo !

asciilifeform: bvt: your posted tester has the actual abort commented out ( otherwise seems identical to diana_coman's ? )

asciilifeform suspects this is a gcc5ism

asciilifeform: bvt: compiled into noops << where ? in stdlib ? ( or can point in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897234 ?? ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/get-lost-dumbo/#selection-1777.110-1777.165 << wat's with all the 'engaged' chix still hanging on fatlife, gotta wonder

asciilifeform bbl, winching xray box onto pedestal and etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it ( and iirc was linked recently in trilema )

asciilifeform: yw diana_coman

asciilifeform: nao worx

asciilifeform: loads via the article, as intended

asciilifeform: ( try it, by clicking from phf's log )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems to redirect to random article

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897225 << the former link eggogs, but i think this is by design, on acct of mircea_popescu's anti-hotlinker pill ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( i dun currently use, but it's definitely going into the final revs of ffa )

asciilifeform: phunphakt : ada std includes a pragma that manually throws a string for bin auditor to read, in selected spot.

asciilifeform: ( ida eats 'dwarf' debugolade )

asciilifeform: ^ btw diana_coman if you build with -d , the var_xxx liquishit can be made into varnames.

asciilifeform: ^ the magic moment.

asciilifeform: .text:00000000000005B8 call tasks__abort_tasks

asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : plox to lemme know if yer interested in magnifying glass treatment of some particular aspect.

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/feb_16_adatests_o.html << for utter thread-completeness, the main unit.

asciilifeform: ( to add insult to injury, erry time i post 1 of these, i gotta manually switch font to monospace and remove the winturd line endings, cuz the joys of closedsores proggy )

asciilifeform: ( see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455082 thrd ) ☝︎