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mircea_popescu: valentinbuza you can self voice, say !!up to deedbot.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/tute/ << Trilema - Tute
diana_coman: valentinbuza, is this yours? http://cs.curs.pub.ro/wiki/pm/prj2015/avoinescu/x0lcd
valentinbuza: I say that ACS (Automatica si calculatoare) did not have a crypto course until last year.
valentinbuza: it's nice for CS students to have such opportunities as math universities dominated* crypto scene.
valentinbuza: disclosure: will be TA for both courses
valentinbuza: as you can see https://ocw.cs.pub.ro/courses/ic/start, the material is the same as "advanced" course
valentinbuza: Because our students did not have any background on crypto. He chose to repeat material from "Introducere in criptologie", a course for 4th years undergrads.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated valentinbuza 1 << Ro kid, studies advanced cryptographies and things.
mircea_popescu: !!rate valentinbuza 1 Ro kid, studies advanced cryptographies and things.
valentinbuza: I have some clarification about choudary dude. He is a recent professor (1 year) at our university. The course is called "advanced" because from this year onwards will be advanced material.
valentinbuza: valentinbuza = valica, we talked a few days ago
phf: showed it to my girl in the morning, she said something along the lines of "bless your heart"
jhvh1: phf: The operation succeeded.
phf: !~later tell spyked damn you, i spent an entire night playing slither.io
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2B2458231AF1BE96E2DA3BF3D854A4127510AB16FEF900B4C2BED23EDBEE94BE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1422...1523 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.52.12.131 (ssh-rsa key from 200.52.12.131 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (dns1.axtel.net. MX NLE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2B2458231AF1BE96E2DA3BF3D854A4127510AB16FEF900B4C2BED23EDBEE94BE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1745...6777 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.52.12.131 (ssh-rsa key from 200.52.12.131 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (dns1.axtel.net. MX NLE)
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of traitorously redacted wickylicks, https://archive.is/Zus30
mircea_popescu: this is like 9 yo telling you that the bath dissolved her snatch. you can't corrode just the seam, as a concept, leaving behind the item without a seam can oyu.
mircea_popescu: well since the pot is still there, how'd the seam vanish from corrosion.
asciilifeform: ( but is it possible that the seam vanished from corrosion, with rest of surface? in ancient pot )
mircea_popescu: but ifg you look at the 1k pre-bc greek cauldrons, the similarity to 1500 ad english castle pots is striking. just... the metal is about 100x finer in the ancient case.
mircea_popescu: anyway, funny thing re bronze : it needs tin. as far as ancient world is concerned, copper was uberabundant (cyprus) but tin was either england or anatolia
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they had cannons, just didn't use them as cannons because no gunpowder.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that metal lathe was created and refined pre- steam
mircea_popescu: in point of fact there was NO item more advanced in 1700 england trhan there was available in 200bc athens.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform could have refined it once started, much like the english did.
mircea_popescu: for same applications as historically -- mining first, then crop/textile processing, then boat power.
asciilifeform: well if you dun care what kind of movement - they had it
mircea_popescu: item that turns fire into movement.
asciilifeform: ( leaving aside the notion of bronze pressure vessel )
mircea_popescu: you don't need symmetrical parts to make steam engine.
mircea_popescu: they DID make some bronzeamphorae. but had no idea what to do with it.
asciilifeform: ( the metallurgical lathe, that is )
mircea_popescu: consider, they made bronze statues. and had very advanced pottery.
asciilifeform: they lacked the screw cutter, for instance
asciilifeform: not sure about this
mircea_popescu: but the greeks had the metallurgy to introduce the early steam engine, just like the english did.
mircea_popescu: maybe, though really, it was cost effective in 200bc. they were just dumb.
asciilifeform: by that token, heron's steam turbine..
mircea_popescu: the problem with these "breakthroughs" and "genius inventions" in the industrial setting is that they're generally ancient lore finally dug from under the mound of economical impracticability.
asciilifeform: tensed glass is veerry old idea - recall 'prince rupert's tears'
mircea_popescu: not new, either. only became cost effective recently, but otherwise this is 1960s tech
mircea_popescu: anyway. the idea of forced ion exchange so the surface gets potassium-doped and thus micro-tensed and somewhat stronger is not bad.
asciilifeform was just drinking from these
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked corning gorilla glass is just alumino-silicate glass made by corning. there's a bunch others. think of it as cheap bohemian glass, that thing we had the 10kg fruit bowls etc, "cristal". that's leaded, this is aluminized.
asciilifeform: you could umbilical 2 lm's with it, 1 rides the other
mircea_popescu: ah nm, you get to it anyway.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no possibility~ of such a tging as reputation among africans, shamanists, idiots, "what good are square roots" and other sub-human non-people.
mircea_popescu: ussion" underneath any scam whatsoever will readilty vindicate this point.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/062-greenspan-assault-on-integrity.html << the problem with this view is that the pantsuits correctly intuit that all the imbeciles they enfranchised are sitll imbeciles. consequently it would be no harm to a business' reputation to sell them iguanas on a stick and call it prime beef. they will never know ; and casual perusal of tardstalk "investor" as well as "community disc ☟︎
phf: that's a good kind of spy bus though, back when names for things were innocent. it's not like some kind of "Putting You In Control Bus!11(tm)(c)"
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that the mud was never scraped
phf: well, it's the prototypical "mud ball"
asciilifeform: the sad part is , apart from the ONE basic win ( tagged word memory ) the lm arch was ~= that kalash, 'shit bolted to all sides'
asciilifeform: ideally would end with the 'good parts' -- the genera envir -- without the rubbish ( the byzantine hacks around specific amd alu chip quirks, the multitude of special purpose busses, the constricted addrspace )
phf: but i agree on the overall points, though moving forward from cadr wouldn't be so much backporting, as "writing in the missing bits"
asciilifeform: phf: i haven't tried the fpga one
asciilifeform: i.e. baked around various arithm chips available at the time, rather than raw transistor
phf: fyi if you actually try running b parker's code you'll notice that it's not actually anywhere near working state.
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want to use it nakedly tho -- tiny, by modern standards, addr space
asciilifeform: failing this, could start with cadr and slowly backport bolix envir. ☟︎
asciilifeform: best of all, of course, would be for somebody to leak / steal the missing bits.
asciilifeform: ( for one thing, bolix is comparatively small, quasi-logical, and nonmoving target )
asciilifeform: phf: i'd rather spend next decade reversing the bolix firmware, than wintel liquishit
phf: (cadr is what all those mit alumni were trying to commercialize at symbolics and elsewhere)
phf: there are extant lisp machines that have both hardware documentation and system sources, for example MIT's CADR, but cadr specifically predates symbolics by a dozen of years, was developed by academia, so it's nowhere near as advanced as genera
phf: in a sense that it's a massive code base that works, but if you want to have full ownership, you'll have to fill the source-less bits yourself
phf: so now you're stuck with bitcoin, AND you also need to write say 20% of it from scratch while conforming to existing protocols
phf: i'm actually not even sure how much code is there, but what's critically missing is the low level bits that talk to hardware
phf: yeah, i fat fingured enter before making the entire point
phf: but it doesn't have all the source code.
mircea_popescu: so genera-ivory then
mircea_popescu: so you want to implement the software in fpga ?
phf: genera is the software layer to ivory's hardware, it's usually what people are talking about when "superior development environment!11" etc. symbolics architecture is crufty idiosyncratic, so taking its hardware without also the software doesn't make sense
mircea_popescu: and in other tight couplings, http://68.media.tumblr.com/1d311e42a24764b32eb521e60adcfd62/tumblr_nt9ft5KbHE1tcl9sho1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: why genera though ?
phf: fwiw, if the goal is to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga, then i don't think macivory is a particularly good target. the goal would be to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-19 19:29 spyked: asciilifeform, found something (in romanian) http://www.atic.org.ro/ktml2/files/uploads/Masina%20DIALISP.pdf there's also a more detailed english version on ACM sci-hub http://dl.acm.org.sci-hub.cc/citation.cfm?id=802028#
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BingoBoingo: Shame this poor mother can't send the author back for a warranty claim. https://archive.is/phQzk
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell r0nin- I don't talk privates with stangers
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo so what's the story, is flake making it in az ? << My lulz scroted crystal ball is hazy at the moment
BingoBoingo: <r0nin-> tahts why you go to US and see everyone in new BMWs << LOL, which US are you smoking?
spyked: asciilifeform, found something (in romanian) http://www.atic.org.ro/ktml2/files/uploads/Masina%20DIALISP.pdf there's also a more detailed english version on ACM sci-hub http://dl.acm.org.sci-hub.cc/citation.cfm?id=802028# ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well in truth it was kind of a single name for many random items
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-19#1701101 << much moar schmeisser than kalash really ☝︎
asciilifeform: it was a diesel-electric. was taken as spoils by su, and briefly was the only source of mains current in odessa when asciilifeform's father moved there as a boy
mircea_popescu: generation of kids who all loved legos and their world is more fragmented in stupider ways than the 1600s mercantilist world. wtf.
mircea_popescu: if i decide to reconfigure my car into an electric generator or a super strenght fridge or lawn mower or helicopter, I SHOULD BE FUCKING ABLE TO.
mircea_popescu: the correct move is towards a |ing of hardware, and of software, and everything else.
mircea_popescu: cli works fine because of the | and so on.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the point being that competition should happen on narrower elements.
spyked: yeah, but must still be of some use though. I don't know if there's even a genuine Lisp machine in ro
mircea_popescu: they're the ~copies~ of minoan vases produced in syria, not the actual minoan vases.
mircea_popescu: this is artisanship, after a fashion, but not to be confused with the genuine article imo.
mircea_popescu: spyked see, the thing with orc lands is that they have this. borz, chechen made smg. the egyptians made engine parts to VISUAL spec, by hand. i saw this. guy here offered to produce a replacement pressure hose for me, by visual inspection.