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a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 14:49 phf: now i didn't find out about race conditions myself, that data point came from dks, they discovered race conditions as part of the emulator rewrite, but they have the benefit of having access to the necessary low level bits
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701494 << i always suspected the item will crumble under examination, but then again i'm just a hater. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: heh trilema gateway blew up. should be back within hours. thanks for reporting gl.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 12:12 spyked: asciilifeform, what do you think of minimal baremetal implementation of Lisp (RISC assembly only) on something like a MIPS core? I might be thinking this in too abstract terms, it's definitely not that easy. but I'm trying to find a middle way between working FPGA Lisp machine and Lisp on unix.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 16:51 asciilifeform: so adder, multer, etc, etc all exist simply as devices that hang from 1 set of wires.
mircea_popescu: hmm, that last ref is unexpectedly useless. anyway, item discussed in logs recently (and historically), http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677546 etc ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 12:05 spyked: ok, so to sum up; 1. get ice40 fpga; 2. run fpga lisp machine (cadr?); work from that towards symbolics/ivory, or the other way around starting from symbolics.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701444 << you can work towards the fuck you please. like say the http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=balanced+ternary or the http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=serial+computer or so on. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701432 << ah you two know each other ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: empire is organised towards "functioning economy" ie production of goods, or "functioning culture" ie production of truths. all the subjects in imperial statements are ideals of this kind.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 11:41 spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-20#1701196 <-- yah, but does protecting the "proles" from own stupidity even make any sense as a statement? sorta relates to idea on Trilema on whether the empire wanted to arrive to this point (can't find it right now). enfranchisement of the stupid directly lead to that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701414 << empire is not organised towards "protecting of the proles" or any other statement with the proles as a subject. the proles (understood deductively, as "all people", just as they understand govenment deductively, see prev discussion), as well as the environment generally are the objects, not the subjects of imperial discourse. ☝︎☟︎
brlbg: i get a 'complete' time out
mircea_popescu: however talented teh artist.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 11:33 spyked: also, is there any worth in trying to "physicalize" the virtual lisp machine stuff? genera runs on that from what I read.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701413 << afaik the only benefit educational, and it will follow from cutting apart a live woman and re-sealing her. not out of cutting apart an deviantart drawing. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Dedicated to our new friend The_Moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fzJ_AYajA
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to sit down on the phorq << And once sat down on phork there is problem of who to talk to among the AWS sybils.
BingoBoingo: So, Trump gave an Afghanistan speech where he promised to not talk about Afghanistan specifics. Also “We are not nation-building again, we are killing terrorists”
asciilifeform: i ain't putting privkeys ( even 'old' ones ) in a networkedclosedturd . for same reasons as i will not be sending them to whoever.
asciilifeform: but ftr asciilifeform has not, personally, yet tried this.
asciilifeform: to sit down on the phorq
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: as i understand it's a couplea line patch to trb
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: "another guy" can be read as no more than bch walletolade manufacturer. glhf auditing the code of the extant heaps required to sweep privkeys and send bch to xchange.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> dumping shitforkolade is in that sense a very private work, more than, say, proctology << AHA, balance of bleeding!
asciilifeform: ssd also more , obviously, compact, and lower current. e.g. zoolag is approx the size of my fist. and runs from a wall wart.
asciilifeform: and ssd is considerably more pleasant to have around in close quarters, and doesn't lead you to dive into machine cellar to swap dying drives bimonthly
asciilifeform: though to date i've found the cost, to be similar.
asciilifeform: it may prove more economical to run spinning disks with slice raid, vs ssd. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this being said, even respectably thick (500+ GB) ssd will burn out long before it fills.
asciilifeform: more ssdblocks total -> fewer writes per block per hour -> slower death
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 01:49 pete_dushenski: mod6: hugely. i've now got a small stockpile of 'em seeing as asciilifeform is a few years ahead of the curve and is already reporting on their 2yrish lifespans. might as well have some on hand.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701681 << before i fughet -- i will also point out, all else being equal , a ssd that is larger relative to the size of the blockchain -- will die more slowly ( trim MUST work for this to hold ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: even to 'empty' addr ( would you share an 'old' pgp key?! )
asciilifeform: putting your cock in the mains socket, is both wiser , more +ev, more pleasant, and less of a screaming abuse of the equipment and of the entire discipline that produced it, than sharing private keys.
asciilifeform: but with the added feature that it sets up a permanent wormhole between the sharers -- he gets hiv 20yrs later? now you do too.
asciilifeform: imho this hypothetical exercise falls under the banner of Do. Not. Share. Privkeyz. With. Anyone. It. Never. Ends. Well. ☟︎
asciilifeform: also gotta say that the notion that pete_dushenski would subcontract out a job involving privkeys, is not very good advertisement for his service...
asciilifeform: pass privs to pig who passes to cow who passes to duck who.
asciilifeform: because somebody somewhere would totally do that
pete_dushenski: but how would anyone but me know where the empty privkeys come from ? let's say i hand them off to another guy, who has no idea where they come from but via me, and then he sells on xchange, and then btc gets funneled back to you, what then ? when inquisitor comes (which he won't because he can't or he already would've) do all three of us own coins because we've each seen privkeys ?
pete_dushenski quietly imagines that asciilifeform 's seekrit is that he's bigger holder than... mp!
asciilifeform: disclosing privs to empty addrs proves ownership to whoever finds them. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: no different than paying for fg 'discloses your inner rectal seekritz'
asciilifeform: but i dun see how you could use someone else's help in this exercise, without disclosing your inner rectal seekritz.
pete_dushenski: as the kids these days say, you do you man, you do you.
asciilifeform: if i go through the bother of setting up the furnace, i'm certainly burning all.
pete_dushenski: i dunno man, you're the one keeping is ~all~
asciilifeform: why the fuck would i want to keep any.
asciilifeform: not trimfs
asciilifeform: trimfs on other hand is a batch util, grinds disk to a halt for 10s or so
asciilifeform: alternatively can mount some fs ( e.g. ext4 ) with 'discard' flag, same thing
mike_c: trimfs, will do. thanks
asciilifeform: dumping shitforkolade is in that sense a very private work, more than, say, proctology
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 01:31 pete_dushenski: no one wants to dump bch / bcc eh ? weird. thought there'd be a line-up out the door. then again, maybe y'all already been there done that and my brokerage offer is late to the party ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701650 << i cannot speak for other folx but possibly i'm not the only one who isn't eager to divulge all-his-btc-addrs ( much as we like pete_dushenski , picture, say , his iron were to be stolen, ect) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( put trimfs as daily cron job )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 01:49 pete_dushenski: mod6: hugely. i've now got a small stockpile of 'em seeing as asciilifeform is a few years ahead of the curve and is already reporting on their 2yrish lifespans. might as well have some on hand.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701681 << be sure to enable 'trim' ☝︎
asciilifeform: mike_c: be sure to test'em
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 01:45 mike_c: asciilifeform: I got some goats in the mail today. ty.
pete_dushenski: mod6: hugely. i've now got a small stockpile of 'em seeing as asciilifeform is a few years ahead of the curve and is already reporting on their 2yrish lifespans. might as well have some on hand. ☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1693691 << re "car wheel drm" can't say i've ever lost one of the "special" nuts myself but they are indeed a thing and it's not overly surprising that the shops won't sell you new ones but if you just drop your car off there, flip them a $50 or whatever, i'm sure they can take care of it. or, y'know, just know a guy. ☝︎
mike_c: asciilifeform: I got some goats in the mail today. ty. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: mod6: ya, it was ~half the time of the last 0-fullheight trb sync i tried maybe 18 months ago, but that was on hdd and this was on ssd :)
pete_dushenski: though i'll be damned if i can gather why it is that -connect'ing to 2+ nodes jams up every few hours whereas just 1 node sync beautifully with no issues for days on end. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: approved, ty
mod6: maybe that's encouraging news for mike_c who just started his sync adventure
pete_dushenski: in other nodes, my latest 0-fullheight trb sync experiment was completed in a hair under two weeks. nb i say! ☟︎
mod6: ripe for the pickin' eh
pete_dushenski: but i was as surprised as mike_c (to whom, wb btw!) that the bch --> btc market actually came through, at least for triple-digit btc sums. obv can't speak to mp-level six- or seven-digit sums.
pete_dushenski: mod6: i'm just teasin' :)
pete_dushenski: "ultimately, the only way that philanthropy is really going to be able to shed its aura of noxious elitism is if the rich give up the reins of control, and allow the poor to make many, many more allocative decisions." << i lolled ☟︎
mod6: pete_dushenski: maybe people wanna short, gotta give these things time maybe 'eh?
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/LpbwN << "Are rich people presumptively bad?" is some grade aaa trolling. highly recommended for entemologists.
mod6: and that makes up the whole list.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 22:17 trinque: mod6: 172.86.178.46 << deedbot
mod6: and then http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497552 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: no one wants to dump bch / bcc eh ? weird. thought there'd be a line-up out the door. then again, maybe y'all already been there done that and my brokerage offer is late to the party ? ☟︎
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: !~later tell mircea_popescu yo back! :D
pete_dushenski: hanbot: mine is fourth down on the 'trusted node' list
mod6: To all who have nodes on this list: Please update ben_vulpes or myself if the IP or status changes of your node. Thank you.
mod6: <+hanbot> say, where's the current list of trb nodes? http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html << accurate? << I do update it as people tell me.
asciilifeform: 'man has been arrested for allegedly trying to plant explosives on a Confederate statue in Houston'
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo https://archive.is/Repd7 << qntrafodder
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf https://archive.is/fGAO9 << even moar entomologically, even higher quotient of crackpottery, but imho entertaining, re culianu.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf http://journal.iea.ras.ru/online/2008/EOO2008_4e.pdf << entomological various re culianu
BingoBoingo: ^ ty alf
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/us-warship-named-for-minor-dynasty-suffers-casualties-after-aggressing-against-30000-ton-ten-knot-commercial-vessel/ << Qntra - US Warship Named For Minor Dynasty Suffers Casualties After Aggressing Against 30,000 Ton, Ten Knot Commercial Vessel
BingoBoingo: Does anyone remember mp's piece on trilema where he talks about the capital crime of whiny bitch aggressing beyond his station?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you find it, plox to repost
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc it's 15-20 lines ( all ~same snip tho, in each, of the truncation )
ben_vulpes: i struggle to imagine the poverty of system that behavior was intended to be useful on ☟︎
ben_vulpes: if it were to be vpatched, it should abolish truncation everywhere in the codebase
ben_vulpes: anyways, trivial 2-liner
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and BingoBoingo possibly also << Yes, ip available to qualified inquirers