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assbot: A complete theory of economics on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1e2uJrF )
trinque: seraminta: read this -> http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/
mircea_popescu: o also! anyone with a scooped blog can make himself a banner, hit me up with it.
copypaste: You'll get a lot of clicks from that from our users most likely.
danielpbarron: seraminta, you have been given many suggestions; repeating yourself will not yield a positive outcome
seraminta: im a fan of money
danielpbarron: you read the log for 6 months to a year
assbot: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1e2u9tT )
seraminta: i have a job heh
trinque: that is actually a very apt description of the medicinal effect of #b-a
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for mxtm with note: a kid who lives in Boston and likes languages
danielpbarron: maxwell, didn't you register a key under the nickname mxtm?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform aws can definitely not be part of our canonical stuff huh. << agreed. i'll continue to get my sea-legs with what I've got so far, but what we end up supporting in the end will be a gentoo on a bare-rails environment. unless any objections?
asciilifeform: and was a year ago. and two. and three.
asciilifeform: (botnet mining today is a fart in the wind)
asciilifeform: 'eco lobby' is a usg tentacle like any other.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they didn't do their homework at all. they're a very easy target for the "eco" lobby, and will be murdered as they can't afford to pay those leeches.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 19:27:50; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1050103 << don't be ridiculous. for one thing, commodizing asic mining is a larger task than commodizing cpu arch. for the other, they're a fucking sv corp, they're not going to DO ANYTHING. just sit around and talk about shit. preferably at "conferences", or else "liveblog" it.
cazalla: i'd rather move her kilns and tanks into the garage and turn that room into a computing space tbh though lol
cazalla: my missus is not too bad with that, has been doing lampworking for like a decade
asciilifeform: for this and other reasons - not a bad time to learn glass.
asciilifeform: in unrelated but pleasant news, i just unwrapped a beautiful edition of john strong's 'procedures in experimental physics' (1938)
assbot: A New Monetization Solution: Yahoo Recommends - Yahoo Advertising ... ( http://bit.ly/1K75Nwp )
trinque: the marketing side bleeds into the content side if there ever was such a distinction in the first place
trinque: business insider is a shitty rag
danielpbarron: iPhone can be reprogramed to use a longer password
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it's a remote for 'iPnohe'
pete_dushenski: "And for the love of technology, please set up a strong passcode." << what strong 4-digit passcode ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aside the fact that deletant is pretty much a color revolutions expert in history rewriting, sure.
danielpbarron: http://trulyscummy.tumblr.com/post/113137290948/why-i-stopped-being-a-tucute-and-started-being-a >> i was so brainwashed i though i was a piece of trash for being a trans male. i thought i was a "demi-poly-sexual, grey-gyno-romantic, self-diagnosed autistic felinekin". i actually thought this to be true.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm i guess my hypothesis is that usg won't claim enough of remaining unmined btc to throw a wrench in the individual sovereignty of those in #b-a.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently there's no russian note of this, at least on the web i see, but anyway : when patrascanu & co went to moscow to try and work out an armistice, molotov broke the drone with a very pointed "ce ati cautat la stalingrad ?"
mircea_popescu: well, the romanians needed a peace that didn't consist of rape.
mircea_popescu: does usg-effective mean "bitcoin needs a decision making process which a) doesn't include mp as we've been pretending was the case all along and b) overrepresents us, as we've idem" ?
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 21:27:38; asciilifeform: re: l0ltr0n1cs: today i found out that ed felten (formerly 'freedom to tinker' blog, lawsuits against riaa, etc.) has been a usg stooge for several years now.
SWARMsecret: the interwebs is a crazy place
danielpbarron: i posted a link to chat through an "anonymous" twitter account named SWARMsecret
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 20:54:52; kakobrekla: i don't see a reason why not.
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet a 100-200W lcd
asciilifeform: jurov: grid isn't pegged. not by a long shot. think of the whole affair as usg imposing a (comparatively, tiny) tax on its subjects with which to buy hash.
mircea_popescu: i can make a doublespend right now, what's to keep me ?!
asciilifeform: speaking of which, there's a fella on 'ebay' claiming to sell new, virginal sony 21" trinitrons.
jurov: i was asking about a grid, not about chumper
kakobrekla: there is always a chance for double spend, just a matter of how deep
asciilifeform: jurov: so chumper pays more. as he did when he had a crt instead of lcd, etc
jurov: asciilifeform: sry, my calculation is broken, it is 5W per 20 chips. but with the a/c and other overhead, can still be several times more
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: here's the test : within 12 months (or 12 years ?), the 'usg' will be unable to double-spend a bitcoin transaction.
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 19:16:48; lobbes: 'There’s a fairness issue involved here.' << there's that 'fair' trope again
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-05-2015#1130812 << damned straight. lazy, stupid dudes from africa should not get a salary, college degrees and free housing on the grounds that they're black. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so this stunner chick is working in a clothes shop. one day a guy comes in, goes straight for her,
asciilifeform: trinque: 'you will wait for the bus for a very long time if you are the driver'
trinque: I don't buy it for a second.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i'm trying to understand your counter here. is it that usg pocketing the last 1/3 of btc is not annoying? or that double-spends are not a problem ? or... what ?
danielpbarron: who would accept a transaction from USG ? and why should I feel sorry for them?
pete_dushenski: showing up to the train station when the steam engine is but a distant memory and the caboose is over the horizon, with no other train on the schedule, means you either start building your own train (blockchain teckmologee) or you stfu and go back to working the land.
jurov: actually is the 100W heat needs to be A/C'd out, it may end up 300-400watt per one box!
danielpbarron: the tv box miner must operate at a net loss (i get it the chump bears that cost, but eventually the wealth runs out ie: chump runs out of money)
asciilifeform: (usa is not pegged for generating capacity, though grid is a little strained)
pete_dushenski: each has 3 teeth, do they share them to make a bigger bite ?
asciilifeform: only a few mouths with teeth
danielpbarron: i don't have a problem with USG getting 1/3 of all the bitcoin; the can only spend it once ☟︎
pete_dushenski: and there's 7 billion mouths who want a bite.
asciilifeform: a good 1/3 of the cake is still sitting on the table
asciilifeform: the buggers get a seat at the table
asciilifeform: whether one cares - is a matter of taste
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: not if 51%, or 51% with a few helpers, or if all put to gavincoin, or, or..
pete_dushenski: then we're at 200 mn gh/s in a year from now.
asciilifeform: trinque: it'll be a great 'hash laundry' yes
trinque: who will claim the NSA doesn't already have a metric shitload of potential hashing power to apply to this problem?
cazalla: now as much as i love the ol' Vexual, i admit he does like to chat a lot and often makes no sense but by banning him, we now get to enjoy it on a more personal level via pm :P
trinque: pete_dushenski: the declaration of a thing is not what makes it so
pete_dushenski: ok, so mebbe it doesn't burn houses down, and mebbe everyone has a half dozen of these chips wedged into their various appliances...
pete_dushenski: "and if no one has a choice"
trinque: so you just end up with a cryptoturd chip built into the intel processors, and you can't get other processors
pete_dushenski: because a few 'early adopters' will jump on board, burn their houses down, and the thing'll fizzle out
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: why not? classic, grade-a chumpatron. the actual costs (mains power) are 100% externalized to the chumps.
trinque: asciilifeform: I'd expect some broken off appendage of the NSA to accumulate a sizable stash of coin even if the rest of the USG falls apart
danielpbarron: i posted a comment to that freedom to tinker thing a couple days ago; it didn't get approved
asciilifeform: trinque: they read the 2013 #b-a log and accepted mircea_popescu's assertion that they will have problems keeping mining secret
trinque: so being a part of the NSA botnet goes from top secret to productized
trinque: lol, the houses around here are half a million or more
asciilifeform: jurov: that's for folks with choices. at the time i would've taken a job filleting the last remaining pandas with knives made from baby bones
asciilifeform: 'According to the overview, the BitSplit chip's key innovation was intended to be a hardcoded bitcoin wallet address that would give the user 25% of mining proceeds, with the remaining 75% going to 21. Each device would be built with target applications in mind that would then allow consumers to, in theory, spend any bitcoin earned for online content or digital services.'
asciilifeform: re: '21' etc >> 'The cornerstone of the strategy as presented would have been the release of consumer products that would turn power from wall sockets into bitcoin through the widespread dissemination of bitcoin mining chips.' << -somebody- clearly reads the 2013 #b-a logs. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: tasty bait, a little bit of poison - perfect recipe, every exterminator knows
asciilifeform: and articles like this, https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/jbonneau/be-wary-of-one-time-pads-and-other-crypto-unicorns which is a kind of 'mouse poison' in the sense that it combines perfectly valid observation 'don't use random bozo's java crypto turd' with 'one time pads cannot work'
asciilifeform: was a genuine annoyance to usg, in the courts, press, net
asciilifeform: spun, of course, as a 'concession to critics' - naturally
assbot: Bitcoin faces a crossroads, needs an effective decision-making process ... ( http://bit.ly/1IBWF0O )
asciilifeform: and that 'freedom to tinker' now hosts things like https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/randomwalker/bitcoin-faces-a-crossroads-needs-an-effective-decision-making-process
asciilifeform: and just accepted yet a new job from obamitler himself
asciilifeform: re: l0ltr0n1cs: today i found out that ed felten (formerly 'freedom to tinker' blog, lawsuits against riaa, etc.) has been a usg stooge for several years now. ☟︎
kakobrekla: i don't see a reason why not. ☟︎
jurov: poor Vexual now sitting every day outside before the gate, if someone drops a word or a bone
kakobrekla: its a blessing.
trinque: "The president called Saudi Arabia a critical partner in the fight against Islamic State militants." << yes, I suppose making sure ISIS exists is critical to the fight against ISIS.
trinque: The package of powers, first proposed in March, would allow courts to force a person to send their tweets and Facebook posts to the police for approval.
jurov: “For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',”
trinque: it's easy to see that a culture which even considers "fair" a thing runs the risk of totalitarianism
lobbes: 'There’s a fairness issue involved here.' << there's that 'fair' trope again ☟︎