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mircea_popescu: wait, what's that all about ?
trinque: eh, kinda curious if the forum can digest the glib outer layer, see what's underneath.
shinohai: I like hoe kanzure rhymes with `Cancer` .... If trinque agrees it will make my week.
mircea_popescu: partly because there is no such thing as mediocre management.
mircea_popescu doesn't have it in for mediocre engineers as he has it for the medicore management.
kanzure: i've never asked as much; is that important?
mircea_popescu: and who somehow expects nevertheless he;s better than the 80bux a trick costa rican whores./
mircea_popescu: but some random weasel who couldn't, on his own salt, as much as turn on the machine. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect YOU wrote the pos in question.
kanzure: you think i have not implemented sats?
mircea_popescu: for some reason i thought this is self-evident.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 05:59 mircea_popescu: kanzure http://ledgerx.com/is-btc-real << this is uniquely stupid. for one thing, the "conceptualization" of bitcoin as a "real number" is below sophomoric. there is no such thing as a "btc", properly speaking ; it's satoshis all the way down, and they are integers.
kanzure: all answers must be submitted in the form of questions, thanks.
mircea_popescu: kanzure that he's not qualified to do things with his head, look for a plumber job.
mircea_popescu: can't build fucking "intellectual leadership" out of lazy rewrites out of the slime that comes out of tardstalk/reddit when squeezed.
mircea_popescu: yes, you can tell whoever penned that i said so.
mircea_popescu: tell some rando dunning-kugerand that he's intellectually unqualified to do what he thinks he's doing, he'll count himself insulted.
mircea_popescu: I MUST BE INDEMNIFIED FOR MY DETRIMENTAL RELIANCE ON THIS!
mircea_popescu: i read once on a blogpost by legere-x (the world's first drop-out with a certificate) that you can divide things whenever you need to.
asciilifeform: or to gauss, whose 'god created ints, all else work of man'
asciilifeform: complain to max planck!1!
mircea_popescu: above -- also true in java.
asciilifeform: problem is that in analogueistan, 2+2 do not make 4, but 4.0003588437865876 etc. and error MULTIPLIES.
asciilifeform: ( FUCKGOATS in important sense was a reverse-gear of this process )
asciilifeform: and incidentally all comps are 'analogue'. engineer just breaks his back sweating to make the analoguity cancel out before you see it...
mircea_popescu: if they were fast they'd still be here.
mircea_popescu: nah, analogues went away for the new jersey reason. too slow.
asciilifeform: sorta how the analogue comps went away.
asciilifeform: deterministic machine ( i.e. where it is not acceptable for output to vary with phase of the moon and which elvis track 'voice of america' is playing ) entails ints.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:29 gabriel_laddel_p: now, I am 100% with ascii that floats have to die. no question. I, however, am severely undereducated & don't know what to replace them with.
mircea_popescu: funny how that goes.
asciilifeform: it is interesting also in re mircea_popescu's 'false freedoms of choice' concept -- d00d correctly grasps the retardation of ironfloat, but CANNOT seem to let go of it, 'must fix', ends up with 'socialism-with-humanface'-like abortion
mircea_popescu: kinda how this goes.
asciilifeform: '90s usenetism for the study of crackpottery
asciilifeform: btw, i almost let this http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707804 escape ! but no, it is worth reading , (if only on warez, dun give the crank moneys) this b00k -- starts with a VERY reasonable 'floatingpoint is retarded, here are 9,009 ways how' and proceeds to a... 'let's make a 9,000X MOAR byzantinely retarded pieceofshitstack!!' ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-goodbye-girl/ << Trilema - The Goodbye Girl
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents: The State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-September/000272.html
asciilifeform: ( better, imho, picture, than simply reading the datashit )
asciilifeform: shinohai: i was playing with the ice40 ~decompiler~ -- not much use in battlefield, but does give interesting picture of how your netlist ends up sitting down on the iron
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DhCs6/?raw=true
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in ic-pr0n, http://www.clifford.at/icestorm/bitdocs-8k << spiffy example of nonpdfized ( per earlier mircea_popescu thread ) hierarchical docs ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( we had, iirc, thread!
mircea_popescu: as is the case with ~any apple offering.
asciilifeform: gotta also recall, the crapple2 comp was nothing particularly special -- commodore cost ~same and was 10x the bang for buck.
asciilifeform: d00d designed a pcb, and wrote a basic for 6502, and afaik ended there
mircea_popescu: which is why jobs belongs buried next to ogilvy not next to naggum
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have yet to encounter the pov that woz 'was larger part'
mircea_popescu: they - brought the wrong ones.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, my point being that wozniak was not the larger part of a woz-jobs team.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform true, was talking more in general.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: woz was not connected with the mac era
mircea_popescu: all sorts. from paper mags to obscure network afils.
mircea_popescu: people keep thinking woz was "the man behind". the sort of people who like to think that and therefore do are also the sort of people who never get anywhere "for no fault of their own".
asciilifeform: which media tho?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform macintosh was showing the same steve jobs signature "actual positive roi media buying".
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in monkeystan, https://archive.is/bL3CH >> 'the FCC lets you upload any file to their website and make that file publicly accessible using the FCC.gov domain'
asciilifeform: often enough the comp ( and the pathetic imitation of an os inside ) is even included in the service contract.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-08-31 03:41:37: <rinzler> hi, i'm having a bit of a problem completing the installation process on ubuntu 14.04. For some reason I'm getting error that suggest the CRYSTAL environment variable is not set, when it is.
asciilifeform: re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707910 and g_l , this is actually sop in large industrial equip. -- NOBODY ships $500k robot and 'oh hey here's a stack of cd, install on a winblowz box of your choice', they ship with pc ( and usually display, even ) ☝︎
trinque has a keybinding to unbind :p
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 22:26 asciilifeform: phf: at some point ( and by this i mean when finished ffa / released 'p' ... ) i'ma have a large board made, with, say, 8 ice40-8k's, and row of dimm-holders...
asciilifeform: phf et al : to briefly continue http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707895 -- picture an a4-sized plinth, of, e.g., 32 dimm slots. each can contain a card of sram, or alternatively of 4 ice40-8k's, or some peripheral ( e.g. nic magnetics. ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and how they survived the '90s to present day. ( as in fact the last gasp of the commercialunix world )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707920 << i was speaking of the greater, imho, puzzler, of the pre-ipod-apple product line -- the comps ☝︎
asciilifeform: i could see the argument for reviews of ~vintage~ iron ( we had a number of threads on subj, incl. the meat thread in c3 ) but that's about it.
trinque: nor to publish a list and say "ohai NSA, here's the list of hardware we all chose from your catalog" eh?
asciilifeform: it is like listing all of the bullets inside torso of a man who was machine-gunned
asciilifeform: imho it is not even a very rewarding activity, to catalogue'em all
asciilifeform: ( at same time , intel ships at least 2 independent remote anal punishment holes in chipset; then there are the nic vendors (incl. intel...) and so forth )
asciilifeform: trinque: they shipped ( and continue to ship ) winblowz rootkit in-bios
trinque: wasn't it lenovo that shipped some backdoor, publically shamed
mircea_popescu: and the pennies are literal pennies.
mircea_popescu: afaik the only known case of "positive roi from this activity over any kind of interval". otherwise sorta "pick pennies in front of steamroller" activity, countless trillions were wasted to date in the attempt.
asciilifeform: trinque: can also mean 'standard fpga, because why the everliving fuck would you do anything to an fpga except to make it larger'
asciilifeform: trinque: standard iron doesn't have to mean 'standard fritz chip'
trinque may use standard hardware when it means "all carved from diamond by the gods" and not "all haz teh same aids"
asciilifeform: and then again in pocket comps
asciilifeform: crapple, for instance, survived 1990s solely from not committing this atrocity
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: soft-ontop-of-heterogeneous-iron sounded like great thing back in the bad ol' dayz of pdp, bolix, et al...
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-08-31 03:41:37: <rinzler> hi, i'm having a bit of a problem completing the installation process on ubuntu 14.04. For some reason I'm getting error that suggest the CRYSTAL environment variable is not set, when it is.
mircea_popescu: myeah, he sends it to you, "dun werk". well...
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 22:07 trinque: I meanwhile offered a couple hundred bucks to just get a current build of the software, because I had no interest in the ONE TRUE lenovo turd or w/e he'd selected.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707874 << d00d forced himself into that mistake, gotta standardize the iron ~somehow~ ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and no, did not buy a gabriel_laddeltron. though i did mail him a lappy, because he mentioned needing a new comp )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707765 << i'd be surprised if 1 in 10 people here watch any given video. prolly goes to 1 in 2 or 3 re pics, and is 1 in 1.x or even 1.0x re text. so bear that in mind.
asciilifeform smiles the smile of a lazy man -- dun have to do nuffin'
asciilifeform: phf: at some point ( and by this i mean when finished ffa / released 'p' ... ) i'ma have a large board made, with, say, 8 ice40-8k's, and row of dimm-holders... ☟︎
asciilifeform: comes with 100MHz clock gen, but has pll, tunable.
asciilifeform: since we're on subj, asciilifeform got the recently released ice40-8k (largest in the series) going. ( there's only 1 decent dev board for the 8k, the one released by olimex ~2wks ago ) ☟︎
phf: the sentece was corny, i meant that "i didn't buy masamune (because ..) but ron garret did"
asciilifeform: re fpga ( there were various 'i'ma throw something together, with 11 different closed dramcontroller, nic, etc from xilinx lib ) , a german, and i fughet who else, all similar
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:43 phf: gabriel_laddel_p: it was a form of speech, but it didn't go anywhere with you. i'm saying it's not a lisp machine, because i have a lisp machine on an fpga right here, ron garret saw a demo and thinks it's a lisp machine. he's sold, i'm not, so it stands.
phf: or even marco baringer's slime tutorial which is the original video demonstrating the particular setup that "masamune" is trying to put lipstick on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_4vhsmRRI
phf: a good example of what i mean by "do something nontrivial" is baggers's series on CEPL "pushing pixels with lisp" https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMV8p6Lb-bd6UZtTc_QD4zA which shows real time graphics wizardry mediated by an sbcl/emacs
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 03:11 phf: but there was none of that, because there wasn't actually anything being done. i think it would be a lot more impressive if you setup a non trivial task and showed how masamune makes that task easier to perform
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 03:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632161 << i just didn't think the video was good. i also can install all the individual packages that are involved, but i wanted to see if and how the symbiosis makes you more productive
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:58 phf: gabriel_laddel: well this is my avocation, so hacking on hemlock and installing masamune in sfo is cost equivalent. i'd make a trip just as a mini vacation, i'll see when's the closest i can swing it
trinque: guy doesn't want money, or to eat.
trinque: I meanwhile offered a couple hundred bucks to just get a current build of the software, because I had no interest in the ONE TRUE lenovo turd or w/e he'd selected. ☟︎