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asciilifeform: having actually been tasked with attempting something quite like the peach/pear before.
asciilifeform: actually i have a suitably grim picture of the capacities.
asciilifeform: otherwise mircea_popescu has it.
asciilifeform: MB if we get to #include from the genus.
asciilifeform: but certainly not inexpressable.
asciilifeform: i can arrange this but the answer will be a few MB long.
asciilifeform: i'm stuck with expressable.
asciilifeform: remember, i don't deal in inexpressables. or i'd be hanging at the dirigible club with mircea_popescu, and not here in this ditch
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: but i was asking, what they do differently.
asciilifeform: well yes.
asciilifeform: is it that the latter tells you what to do ?
asciilifeform: prophet / strategist
asciilifeform: so what's the operative difference ?
asciilifeform: ~accurate~ prophet.
asciilifeform: beats the shit out of everyone else.
asciilifeform: actually rms is the most consistently and accurately long-term doom prophet i'm personally aware of.
asciilifeform: but did rms even know that he was bathing in shit ?
asciilifeform: but i suspect that mircea_popescu is operating on the 'spoon of shit in barrel of wine' theorem
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: and he looked up 'bitcoin conference' and went.
asciilifeform: some intern, likely, told him a five minute spiel re: bitcoin
asciilifeform: *relevance
asciilifeform: rms, as i understand, goes to all kinds of crud ('phreeee palestine!1111') to play at relevancy
asciilifeform: public toilet is, well, public
asciilifeform: so we're taking nefario's word for it ?
asciilifeform: some folks just spend longer time walking around as a zombie before burial, than others.
asciilifeform: nobody lives forever.
asciilifeform: r (1997) and was the last straw... '
asciilifeform: 'Unpleasant surprises followed. As leader of the GNU Project, Stallman experienced the first fork of Emacs in 1991. As we will see below by 1993, the GNU Project's completely lost the initiative due to an inability to deliver a working POSIX kernel. In March, 1993, a Wired magazine article by Simson Garfinkel described the GNU Project as "bogged down". GCC fork occurred a several years late
asciilifeform: e was almost 40 and his best years as a programmer were in the past. Programming is a young men game and such grants usually are a clear signs of a starting decay.
asciilifeform: 'In 1990, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation granted Stallman a MacArthur fellowship. The grant, a $240,000 which is more then $500K in 2000 dollars provided Stallman with a source of income and health insurance for five years. That made it less necessary to do consulting work to support himself. Although RMS now can devote more time to the writing GNU software, but actually h
asciilifeform: glbse?!
asciilifeform: srsly?
asciilifeform: yeah iirc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfi
asciilifeform: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed ... '
asciilifeform: pretty sure this was in the logz at some point
asciilifeform: http://www.softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/prophet.shtml#An attempt of hostile takeover of glib << l0l drepper gold
asciilifeform: at gunpoint
asciilifeform: it is when you're masturbating ~someone else~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how does prisoner in butugychag work ?
asciilifeform: 'his own bizarre technical ideas'.
asciilifeform: 'real-world technical issues and the bigger picture.'
asciilifeform: stung from all sides by vermin who want him to 'get with the times', is it any wonder rms turned to stone ?
asciilifeform: ^ rms when seen from the gnome pit
asciilifeform: e new decision to be worth anything.
asciilifeform: He can be convinced. Eventually. It took the SC over a year to explain and demonstrate that Java bytecode could not easily be used to subvert the GPL, therefore permitting GCJ to be checked in to the official repository was okay. I'm sure that someday we'll be using C++ in core code. Just not anytime soon.'
asciilifeform: 'Even when the SC is asked to decide something, they never go to RMS when they can help it, because he's so unaware of modern real-world technical issues and the bigger picture. It's far, far better to continue postponing a question than to ask it, when RMS is involved, because he will make a snap decision based on his own bizarre technical ideas, and then never change his mind in time for th
asciilifeform: interesting, from punkman's link:
asciilifeform: rms was working on catastrophically broken priors, but worked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see the 'no inclination towards work' thing
asciilifeform: i do not know where it went, but afaik he still lives in a repurposed closet at mit.
asciilifeform: (rms won some sort of prize for gcc, but it was only enough for a few yrs, apparently, and parasites helped to eat it faster)
asciilifeform: it was the '80s, and the man was 'dependently wealthy.'
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: so no, this was not a pediwikian sort of catastrophe, but worse.
asciilifeform: and while the latter hashed out, the project withered.
asciilifeform: instead, he went with 'mach', which was owned by - iirc - CMU, and stuck in legal limbo
asciilifeform: and rms wrote, later, that not doing this was a catastrophic mistake
asciilifeform: as i recall, the original plan was to use some bsd variant
asciilifeform: and 'stole' the gnu userland, to go with it
asciilifeform: then linus appeared, and did
asciilifeform: for various reasons, rms et al were unable to produce a usable kernel.
asciilifeform: called gnu hurd
asciilifeform: he had a thing that was supposed to be what linux was
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that he didn't really psychologically weather the hurd thing.
asciilifeform: (rms was, what, 40, 20 yrs ago ?)
asciilifeform: not only.
asciilifeform: fungus is available to all.
asciilifeform: proving that it is eminently possible to be eaten alive by fungus ~without~ working directly for usg.
asciilifeform: so at this point i'm satisfied that rms either 1) does not actually use an x60 machine with 'libreboot' ~~or~~ does not program. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;google "emacs without dbus"
asciilifeform: ^ moar rovis
asciilifeform: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616&start=60#p577538 << far more interesting.
asciilifeform: or nm, i think this is in the logz.
asciilifeform: well, oldz
asciilifeform: http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9317-has-linux-lost-its-way-comments-prompt-a-debian-developer-to-revisit-freebsd-after-20-years << in other nyooz.
asciilifeform: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2012-08/msg00014.html << the rot goes way back.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: because, among other things, i mistakenly blamed openbsd for this.
asciilifeform: i am seriously fucking pissed
asciilifeform: pulls in.
asciilifeform: not simply 'supports'.
asciilifeform bbl
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2014#808005 << related thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: *4 hr and
asciilifeform: caffeine etc. users are not typically faced with a mircea_popescutronic choice of 'should i dope or should i sleep how much i want and bathe in virgin tears.' more often, it is a 'i WILL get 4 hrs. of sleep and there is nothing to be done about it. will it be 4 hr and then i fall asleep at my desk and get sacked or 4 hr of being reasonably awake.'
asciilifeform: and works best on a dirigible, also.
asciilifeform: than to take dope.
asciilifeform: yes, it is better to sleep ad libitum, and wash yourself in the morning with fresh virgin tears and panda milk. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418038 << does mircea_popescu remember the sleep ad libitum thread ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418017 << there are devil knows how many people who would be on dope if they had any way of getting to it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1418055 >>>>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1402410 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: 'go to war with the army you have.'
asciilifeform: but there are really not so many folks soldiering on to keep the last usable linux quasi-alive.
asciilifeform: rovis reminds me more than ANYONE of dragos ruiu.
asciilifeform: ^ 'tor browser' eats dbus ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Launching Tor Browser Bundle for Linux in /tmp/tor-browser_en-US XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /tmp/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/libxul.so: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
asciilifeform: gold from the commentz: