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spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798160 <-- I can definitely see this angle. my point is that by giving up the "general-purpose" pretense altogether, the system designer can qualitatively reduce the implicit trust in code running in the system. so yes, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798161 but moreover, one would not expect to find e.g. a pdf processing library in bitcoin node os, as "bitcoin node" can be specced all the way from ☝︎☝︎☟︎

ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-14#334077 << what sorta teams are these?

mircea_popescu: "Darwin also went to The Master's College library and checked out a stack of MacArthur's books about 18 inches high. Normally, they would not allow so many volumes to be lent out all at one time, but in this case, for some reason, they made an exception." << "they were secretly hoping he steals them"

mircea_popescu: <lobbesbot> Post from danielpbarron: Henlo world! <http://danielpbarron.com/2018/hello-world/> << henlo world lol

douchebag: <3

mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ << interestingly enough, this still doesn't. what's the danielpbarron hanbot difference i wonder.

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/do-you-live-a-christian-lifestyle/ << Daniel P. Barron - Do you live a Christian lifestyle?

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/do-not-build-yourself-perishable-treasures/ << Daniel P. Barron - do not build yourself perishable treasures

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/banned-from-the-rabbit-hole/ << Daniel P. Barron - Banned from The Rabbit Hole

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/banned-from-the-westbrook-elk%e2%80%99s-club/ << Daniel P. Barron - Banned from the Westbrook Elks Club

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/banned-from-bill%e2%80%99s-seafood/ << Daniel P. Barron - Banned from Bills Seafood

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/oklahoma/ << Daniel P. Barron - Oklahoma

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/yet-another-test/ << Daniel P. Barron - Yet another test

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/test-post/ << Daniel P. Barron - Test Post

deedbot: http://pizarro.danielpbarron.com/2018/hello-world/ << Daniel P. Barron - Henlo world!

ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-14#334157 << was the link i meant to paste

ben_vulpes: wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fpizarro.danielpbarron.com%2Fwp-admin%2Findex.php << hue, nono

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1798822 << I lol'd ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686438 <<< yes, because you're applying the pretense of statics to a dynamic situation. trinque 's metaphore is very much factual : we were paradopped on hot coals, by the FAULT, inexcusable, and indelible, of our parents. they should have taken care that we do not get dropped on hot coals, as children barely able to move. they did not, and derelict in their first and practically speaking on

mircea_popescu: trinque how much does it need to be ? so far < 1 btc per day or so neh ?

BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ << Maybe the people and society section needs updating? Maybe it doesn't? Glories of no formal surveys!

shinohai: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ <<< 404

hanbot: http://thewhet.net << lastest post (mod_rewrite ergo links not yet live, or i'd link y'all directly) is mp-wp_genesis. esthlos and anyone else who was waiting on this is encouraged to test it out --setting up a test blog-within-a-blog is gonna be a royal pita and cause yet further delays, so please do try it out, lemme know how it goes.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798463 << why don't you do some actual work, then ☝︎

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/aussies-bringing-shuttered-power-plant-back-online-for-electricity-sales-to-miners/ << Qntra - Aussies Bringing Shuttered Power Plant Back Online For Electricity Sales To Miners

mircea_popescu: hanbot these are gonna become incantations lol. "hi i'm here to show you my tits" "<< it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally." and so on.

mircea_popescu: haleyyyyy 96ddc81a << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.

hanbot: <mircea_popescu> will give the old farts in the chicago senate heartburn. << haha there's a fact

mircea_popescu: thatbitchlola http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << recognize any of the tits there ?

mircea_popescu: SluttyDiamond 2fb5eb10 << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.

deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/13/fucking-starbucks/ << Bingo Blog - Fucking Starbucks

mircea_popescu: danna33 52454fae << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.

mircea_popescu: thatbitchlola 563661f6 << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/f-35-deliveries-halted-again-over-defects-and-contract-disputes/ << Qntra - F-35 Deliveries Halted Again Over Defects And Contract Disputes

ben_vulpes: http://www.understandfrance.org/France/Education3.html << make web design great again

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798095 << might be dying hdd i guess. does it have bad sectors etc ? ☝︎

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798144 <<< only browser game I ever tried resulted in winged cock. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: tittybang 4b656366 << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://www.jo99.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/krystine-and-the-chidren.jpg << sampler.

mircea_popescu: in other news, http://www.jo99.fr/ << check out the "game" this artist chick came up with. it's something else.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798080 << how about now ? ☝︎

danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1797998 << heh, a response to "i tell people what not to do" -- shivalry, did you know the Bible tells us to encourage your indulgences for so long as God hasn't forced you to believe in Him? ☝︎

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/ingsoc-today-british-baker-under-assault-for-eschewing-metric-system/ << Qntra - Ingsoc Today: British Baker Under Assault For Eschewing Metric System

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694066 <-- experimental indecent (no ssd, no sata3) node has kept reliably at top for > 2 months after installing asciilifeform's aggressive pushget blocks patch; conclusion so far: can be indecent IF only aggressive too! ☝︎

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/russia-preparing-economic-sanctions-against-us-industry/ << Qntra - Russia Preparing Economic Sanctions Against US Industry

deedbot: asciilifeform rated ascii_lander 1 << asciilifeform's lander module, 4.14 -- 4.19

deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/06d-what-is-an-os.html << The Tar Pit - What is an operating system?

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/take-a-pacific-piss-like-a-boss/ << Trilema - Take a Pacific piss like a boss.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1797925 << defo publish all this, then. or is it published already ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797879 << well, it does suggest the solution to the cold fusion problem : MAKE THE ITEM MOVE WITH ROCKET!!1 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797868 << quite ; but this is not unrelated, mommentum = mv. and v has a T component. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797814 << this'd be the one extra item vtronics might eventually get, if this ever comes to exist in a proper sense. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797803 << very much recall ; http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-26#532413 ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797781 << aww, dese women in tech. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797734 << hey. he has a point there, if you're gonna bilk it gotta bilk it. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 18:35 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797532 << as far as i can tell the 'rsa has structure! but aes, surely not' is instance of minsky's empty room ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-13#920444 )

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 18:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797132 << this counterstructure argument is actually quite strong ; may indeed be stronger than the proponent realizes.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 17:53 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797053 << should be interesting once spyked wakes up lel.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797815 <-- must confess that I am eager to read FFA spark. ☝︎

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/wwiii-continues-waiting/ << Qntra - WWIII Continues Waiting

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 20:52 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797799 << if this looks monstrous, prepare to barf when you consider how much the ~verifier~ weighs

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797811 <-- been there. and the kernel is not monstrous (paper: http://www.cs.ru.nl/~freek/courses/tt-2012/papers/sadhana.pdf -- funfact: a bastard version of mccarthy's "maxwell equations" lies buried somewhere in there), but attempting to use it to solve even simple problems from 7th grade mathbook can lead to huge codebase. and will inevitably bring the computer-aided mathematician to an existential ☝︎

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1796970 << here's a thing i wondered about for many yrs : is there any reason why a wirbelrohr could not do the job of 'frost control' in an 'airbreather rocket' ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797799 << if this looks monstrous, prepare to barf when you consider how much the ~verifier~ weighs ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 22:32 asciilifeform: idea is a http server in <1000 ln of ada, approx.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797798 << 1 of the things on asciilifeform's 'wish list', is a reasonable ada http serv ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 19:58 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797506 <-- ain't gonna bitch about that. but just for lulz: http://archive.is/tatUF and to think, proof systems (Coq, Isabelle/HOL, etc.) exist mainly to slap humans on their wrists when they err.

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of danielpbarron from 1 to 3 << his worship

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of hanbot from 2 to 4 << legendary valkyrie

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of mike_c from 3 to 1 << lost, but not forgotten

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of lobbes from 3 to 3 << staunch sapper

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of mod6 from 4 to 5 << foundation co-chair

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of trinque from 4 to 6 << against every creature, living or dead

deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of mircea_popescu from 4 to 5 << master of the realm

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 17:53 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797053 << should be interesting once spyked wakes up lel.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797506 <-- ain't gonna bitch about that. but just for lulz: http://archive.is/tatUF and to think, proof systems (Coq, Isabelle/HOL, etc.) exist mainly to slap humans on their wrists when they err. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797184 << you definitely should do that, seeing how the superficial "was reviewed" claim collapses upon the most cursory scrutiny. this is not a good state to put yourself into, it makes it too easy to be painted with unflattering brushes. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/bogota-a-mixed-bag/ << there. you ever go to bogota ?

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/land-of-coffee-land-of-winds-land-of-oddly-moistened-bints/ << that's from the day i died at sea

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797532 << as far as i can tell the 'rsa has structure! but aes, surely not' is instance of minsky's empty room ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-13#920444 ) ☝︎☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: TrixxC 0b8d3306 <

deedbot: asciilifeform rated avgjoe 1 << new blood

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 18:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797142 << understand, the discussion here is re cryptographic hardness, not mathematical hardness ; as discussed otherplaces in the logs, the mathematical notion of difficulty is "what's the absolute hardest case this problem can yield", because they want to offer maximal flop guarantees ; cryptographically it is kinda opposite : what's the LOWEST difficulty a problem in this class may yield

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797536 << we may have had the thread iirc, but : cryptographic 'lowest difficulty' is inescapably statistical, considering that there is a nonzero and calculable probability of guessing a key ( under any system which is not otp, i.e. correct key is somehow distinguishable from the space of possible rubbish key ) ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i have been seduced into liking sugary delights! << It's scarcely been more than a month since a fractional alfajore gave you sugar shock

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797142 << understand, the discussion here is re cryptographic hardness, not mathematical hardness ; as discussed otherplaces in the logs, the mathematical notion of difficulty is "what's the absolute hardest case this problem can yield", because they want to offer maximal flop guarantees ; cryptographically it is kinda opposite : what's the LOWEST difficulty a problem in this class may yield ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797136 << approximately zero, in that case, for good fundamental reasons to do with... the structure of theoretical possibility. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797132 << this counterstructure argument is actually quite strong ; may indeed be stronger than the proponent realizes. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797078 << this looks almost like a Very Desperate Man (tm) writing say pcb wiring constraints. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797053 << should be interesting once spyked wakes up lel. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d << this sort of thing.

asciilifeform: cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system << likbez

mircea_popescu: anyway, as to the other one : v is the republican... well many things, but also works as a versioning system. here's a pretty picture to help the notion along : http://btcbase.org/patches << you can select from the drop menu to the left, see vaqrious trees extant. you can click on any item to see the patch it represents.

mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/07/introducing-eucrypt/ << it uses the v system ; are you familiar with v ?

mircea_popescu: "If a packet has been received from a given peer, but we have not sent one back to the given peer in KEEPALIVE ms, we send an empty packet." <<

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 16:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1796991 << let me ask you this then : why do you send an encrypted empty message when heartbeat fails ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797002 << this is fucking grand. i love reading through this list, it's in the vein of "oh my god, check that out, he natively gets it!" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1796991 << let me ask you this then : why do you send an encrypted empty message when heartbeat fails ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 09:42 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1796749 <-- that's probably my thing, I've been playing with it for the last two weeks or so, I have it in a loop grabbing feeds from republican blogs.