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mircea_popescu: the similarities are overpowering. both groups are grossly acultural, clinging to ridiculously simplified worldviews and models of thought, and pretending to a legitimacy and importance that is both absent in the field and justified ideally and historically only.
mircea_popescu: one should really stop and think for a moment if he notices that the opposing players eschew "opportunities" he himself wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: state's in just as bad a shape as syria/ukraina/etc ever were.
jurov: i am wearing electronics on my ears all day, so i've got a tollerance. but saw nothing appealing so far
trinque: it will be a very long time before I implant electronics in my body, if ever
mircea_popescu: anyway, i see a point to actually signifying tattoos, those queen of spades ankle stuff, or the russian cat or whatever.
mircea_popescu: iirc tattoo advertising is a thing
asciilifeform: they only store a few thou. of sequence
asciilifeform: one day some schmuck will build (for usg bid) a coke machine which dispenses the goop in exchange for a photo and dna sample
mircea_popescu: everyone's happy : the plebs for a, the corp because b), as quarters weren't evenworth stealing
mircea_popescu: they a) no longer steal quarters and b) steal data.
mircea_popescu: a quarter's not what it used to be.
asciilifeform: again, the proposition is that there exists 'small change wizardry' which would find a place in a coke machine.
mircea_popescu: don't come to me with a model that requires turning wizards into coke machines. there's no power to do so and the effort would be overall -ev anwyay
mircea_popescu: the usg did NOT survive eating the coin merely a few times.
mircea_popescu: the machine has a horrible reputation, and only survives in its abjection
mircea_popescu: but when i tried that you said "it is a mistake to ask"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only way he might consider it is if it were a ~bounded~ negative
asciilifeform: i must point out that i have sat on both sides of this (entirely absent) bench. both in search of secrets, ~and~ sitting on a small stash of 0days that will be buried with me ☟︎
asciilifeform: must be so impeccable that it does not visibly diminish from a single dissatisfied dragon - any more than planet earth visibly loses gravitational pull from a rocket launched to outer space
mircea_popescu: and the past few years have taught me a whole lot about the value and complexity of maintaining impeccability.
mircea_popescu: why would magical dragon risk his magic to get involved in a system that may well tarnish it for no reason ?
mircea_popescu: the mistake is not to ask for it, the mistake is to contemplate a system that requires the question answered.
asciilifeform: it is a mistake to ask for a universal resolution to such a dispute, like asking for 'absolute velocity' in physics
mircea_popescu: how are you going to resolve dispute between party a which claims it ate its key and party b which claims the key was junk ?
mircea_popescu: then again... the past 50 years would look a lot different if i were actually right.
mircea_popescu: is there any particular reason the amateur that's not in a kool dude wot now will manage to get in the kool dude wot of the proposed market ?
asciilifeform: very often, the secret in question is in possession of folks who presently have ~no~ way to monetize it - i am speaking specifically of amateurs who pwned, by way of idle exploration, the target - but are not in a 'k00l d00dz wot' where they can safely sell the result to anyone
mircea_popescu: a) monkey b) possesses the key c) will let go IF - c1. not painful c2. food and shelter.
asciilifeform: whereas u.s. corporate monkeys ~will~ sell their login for a chocolate bar (empirically proven)
mircea_popescu: what you said is a metaphor for womanhood, not the other way around.
mircea_popescu: see how that's a metaphor for womanhood ?
asciilifeform: this answers 'a'
asciilifeform: a monkey working at $vendor fires string, gets coin. for virtually no effort of his own.
asciilifeform: say i have a chip, from a certain vendor, for which no public documentation is known. it nominally allows firmware to be written, but not read back (most microcontroller vendors feature this.) i connect it to a programmable i/o board, and say 'supply the signals that cause it to spit out fw.'
mircea_popescu: in that example a) why would anyone accept to be paid less than the "cost to fuzz", and b) why would anyone opt to pay more thanb the "cost to fuzz" ?
asciilifeform: 'if you can supply a bitstring that makes mechanism x do y, get coin c'
asciilifeform: not proposing anything complex, really. something on the order of a bear trap
mircea_popescu: 100% of a meal made by tractor ?
mircea_popescu: 80% of a meal made by tractor - cheap
asciilifeform: the reason i asked is not that i was whacked with a club over the head and turned into a tard overnight, but that instead i was thinking of certain very limited special cases of jurov's suggested '0day prize box'
mircea_popescu: but that some is important and it falsifies a ~fundamental~ property of markets.
mircea_popescu: they have a lot of common characteristics, yes, and the people "in" like to joke about it and pretend it's "the same". but... it is not.
asciilifeform: and yes, it'd be a kind of 'assassination' and therefore doesn't work in a public wot, and therefore - at all...
mircea_popescu: but the market you propose, like the market which consists of assassins, like the market which consists of whores, is eminently NOT a market like the market that consists of grain, or ddram chips.
mircea_popescu: the connection i see is that the proposition of this market is about as silly as the proposition of the trivia bot. there are fundamental differences between what a market is and what an assassination market is.
asciilifeform: i'd -like- to think there is a connection. just not sure what it is, quite yet.
asciilifeform: not related except in a hopelessly vague sense
assbot: 1 results for 'trivia bot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trivia+bot
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu who was that fella a while back who wanted to set up a btc-denominated market for reverse-engineered/leaked specs? (think, easily verifiable...!) and did it go anywhere ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163764 << lol, do we get a newspiece every time this happens? 'you're older than you've ever been and now you're even older, ..., and now you're older still!' (tm) (r) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: a hey.
mircea_popescu: only in that it;s a coupla years late.
asciilifeform: reads like a usg disinfo, though
asciilifeform: this is a pretty decent standard to live by.
asciilifeform: but probably enough for a life's work of decent programmer
mircea_popescu: barely enough for a modern jpg
asciilifeform: (and a few 720k)
mircea_popescu had a complete lotus 1-2-3 and novell netware ~suites~, hundreds of 1.2mb floppies in 50 item boxes, shelves of the shit
mircea_popescu: i had a batch of 100 out of which 30 died the first write
mircea_popescu: but also very variant. i had one that was good for hundreds of rewrites over a year
asciilifeform: might have a survivor-bias thing going here
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 01:16:01; kakobrekla: meh i recall 'burning' a game at friends house to ~20 floppies, only to find ~5 not working when arrived home.
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 22:32:08; pete_dushenski: for ethereum posterity : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-20369
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 22:18:10; kalki: ok well I just subbed 2 special characters and then generated... it happened really fast... I thought it was supposed to take quite a bit of time but it appears to have generated in less than 5 seconds...?
mircea_popescu: that aside, adding a curly bracket at the end or something doesn't hurt anything
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 21:59:34; kalki: thanks... ok so in attempting to set up my first gpg account, I am following the guide from contravex... so I am using the 5 dice coupled with the englich passphrase word list. So, I did 10 tosses, got the words, but then after entering, the gpg client tells me it is a weak pw as it contains no special characters. I read somewhere on Trilema not to change ANYTHING from what I get from the dice toss... so just
HeySteve: would be ideal if a bot could be modded to hold and award the prize money
HeySteve: hello. kakobrekla, I wanted to speak to you about a trivia bot
kakobrekla: but i dont have a cdrom in any computer either
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: gonna end up like me, i had to buy a brand-new one last week
kakobrekla: meh i recall 'burning' a game at friends house to ~20 floppies, only to find ~5 not working when arrived home. ☟︎
asciilifeform just used a 25-year-old floppy disk, without problems. how many dye-based 'cd-r' will last for 25 yrs ?
Naphex: cause HLS has like a 8~20s delay
Naphex: fed through a javascript player
Naphex: cazalla: no flash, stream is rtmp. needs flash for a codec
menahem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163644 << bahaha, travis patron. "Travis Patron is a singularity researcher and cybereconomist most well-known for his thought leadership into digital economies such as bitcoin... You can find him in Toronto, apathetic towards voting while hunting banksters for spare organs." ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> how many three-legged tables, chairs ? << i for one would rather have three-legged furniture: 3 points define a plane; any more and you have an overconstrained and rocking system
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell bingoboingo that 'reddit outrage' piece is impossible to read dude. breaking start-up/startup into two words might give you two s.qntr shares but it makes shit unreadable and frankly a bit annoying. tighten it up, smarten it up, eh.
punkman: "when I was at Visa, I was leading an R&D group on Machine Learning that was experimenting with Hadoop for near real-time analytics of purchases. anyway we worked a year on that thing, and it was awesome, but one day we get invited by another group at Visa who want to show us something ‘amazing'."
pete_dushenski: it's more of a sense of things to come, a feeling of how valhalla might look
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum's Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JQxmsc )
pete_dushenski: for ethereum posterity : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-20369 ☟︎
kalki: ok well I just subbed 2 special characters and then generated... it happened really fast... I thought it was supposed to take quite a bit of time but it appears to have generated in less than 5 seconds...? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: not that you can't add a few symbols or make the second-last letter of every diceware word a capital if you so desire
jurov: if you're a beginner, no use to complicates tuff by using multiple keys
kalki: funkenstein, the wiki says for WOT that I should generate a gpg if I dont already have one... so do folks typically use just one key? or is it smart to have a seperate one for WOT distinct from communication etc?
funkenstein_: i don't mac, but methinks you can add a couple special chars without losing entropy
kalki: also, I am noticing that when I log in to #bitcoin-assets, just before it transports me to the room, it says at the bottom of the screen that this nickname is already taken and that I should verify ownership or something... I assume this means that I need to find a new nickname and that it is not talking about me just because I have been using it a couple months here..
kalki: thanks... ok so in attempting to set up my first gpg account, I am following the guide from contravex... so I am using the 5 dice coupled with the englich passphrase word list. So, I did 10 tosses, got the words, but then after entering, the gpg client tells me it is a weak pw as it contains no special characters. I read somewhere on Trilema not to change ANYTHING from what I get from the dice toss... so just seeking some soun ☟︎
jurov: well, something something hindsight. it was relatively luxurious, got it from a friend who cared for it, and it did work fine for 2 years.
kakobrekla: should have got a golf.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163461 <<< this orlov guy.. i've enjoyed reading some of his stuff but i can't figure out what sort of man buys a boat but does not have funds tucked away for upkeep/maintenance or new engine ☝︎
mod6 wonders off to create a guide
mod6: well, and that thing was a convert too.. so, obv less weight there.
mod6: had a chev 305 in it. ran pretty nice.
mod6: yah srsly. it was a 9 passenger vehicle.
trinque: had a lot of fun in that car though, got it at 16
trinque: mod6: it's a scam
mod6: i just can't figure it out why someone would want to pay $300/mo for 6-7 years on a car loan for something "new" or "reasonable"