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mats: rather
than, you know, usg or israelis dropping bombs on ukr, syria,iraq
mats: i mean
the expansion of
their commercial influence as a general example of an empire of soft power
mircea_popescu: "omg my future! it is ruined!" "wtf do you
think futures are, like orgasms ?" "yeah... as a matter of fact... i do!"
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the us went
through
this
thing, middle class kids worried about "their future". is
that what you mean by soft power ?
mats: the
tom cruise flick and
the graduate (1967)?
mircea_popescu: if
their naked slut on heels scene sucks,
they suck ; if not, we can
talk.
that's kinda
the
table ante for civilisation.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 14:50 mircea_popescu: say phf ! since you're in moscow, what's
the bdsm scene like ? do
they have a club ? mind doing a field report ?
mats: not seen either of
these
mircea_popescu: mats depends what you mean by "Soft power". if by soft power you mean something as seen in
the graduate, or for
that matter in
that lulzy
thing with a 19yo
tom cruise pimping out de mornay & friends, ie what
teh parents are doing, i'll
tell you
tis outright despicable.
mircea_popescu: and i've no problem whatsoever with china in
the political sense. nor much clue as
to actual life
there, who knows, maybe
they're great.
BingoBoingo: Gotta watch, wait, and be ready
to say "NO CHINA,
THAT'S A BAD CHINA" if
they go
too far into acting like Yankee cancer
BingoBoingo: One day
the urban comic relief is hooking you up with laffs and dime bags.
The next he's smashing your windows.
mats: so you
think soft power is coercive
BingoBoingo: Well, it's shitting out "Confucious Institutes" Small leap from
that
to Hillel, anti-defamation league, and Kars4Kids scam
mats: i'm observing
their development of commerce and nuanced relationships in, say,
the indian ocean,
through building of ports along
the littoral, but
they've pointedly ignored human rights issues
the west cares about in e.g. sri lanka
mats: i have my own reservations about .cn, but it notably does not interfere with another state's internal politics and does not dispense hypocritical lectures about human rights
the way
the west does
mats: mircea_popescu: is
there a single nation extant
that you find civilized?
BingoBoingo: Hi-lite for
the lawgs: "One unarmed casino guard was shot, no patrons were injured, and no suspects have been arrested."
BingoBoingo would prefer a pun involving salem witch
trials and sodomy
BingoBoingo: Phonetically
that's nice, but kinda expect
that
to go with vegas.
mircea_popescu: and btw : i'd like
to watch a porno called "dilda das vegas".
mietek: the pages linked in
the
topic do not seem self-explanatory.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 15:09 asciilifeform: in other noose,
the 'china must be colonized for 300 years
to become civilized' solzhederp finally croaked
mircea_popescu: imagine, $icon fo all people being spared
the specialness of your snowflakeitude for a whole fucking hour!
THE HORROR!\
mircea_popescu: exactly. "what would you do if you were in a
train compartment with einstein ?" "i'd stfu"
mircea_popescu: "randomtard could ask meaningful question
to $interesting person, who could in
turn give out an answer
that's both a)something he'd sing and b) something redditard could decode".
mircea_popescu: "i am so and so, ask me anything". final development on
the whole "we are all one" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform>
the funniest bit is
that it dun even need a saboteur << not one with an ama, at any rate.
mats: LKY attributes
this quote
to Deng Xiaoping: "If I have
to shoot 200,000 students
to save China from another 100 years of disorder, so be it."
mats: also responsible for inciting hundreds of students into action on behalf of usg agitprop
that could only be met with
tank
treads and executions
mats: quisling scum
that once said china should be colonized by
the west for
three hundred years
mats: i swear
they gave
the
thing
to obama just
to piss him off, given its history
mats: ... ordered
to pay $400 million in restitution. << hahaha
mats: fame and fortune like
those anna chapman received, awaits
the would-be saboteur
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:45 asciilifeform: on 2nd
thought 'nsa stores packets on dna' is just
the right kind of starwars idiocy
that oughta be encouraged.
shinohai: Some people lack patience for
the real reference wallet I suppose.
mats: my favorite
thing about mr. funk was his saying a couple javascript
thingies were his reference wallet
mircea_popescu: well because 3rd gen is so overwhelmingly easy
to fuck up.
mircea_popescu: or as ballas put it, "jobs other
than science and medicine seem unreal
to you"
mircea_popescu: but yes,
the situation is not symmetrical -- western orcs produced mcmansion where eastern orcs produced very respectable math and literature, which is
truly 2nd generation in shoes fare
mircea_popescu: separation seems
to work splendidly on own power, just as soon as alternative is perceived.
mircea_popescu: but, as
teh old article says, "but
then again nothing in
the world harder & more obdurate
than
the limits a brain sets for itself"
mircea_popescu: moreover,
the issue is purely cultural, which is why
the 1st gen in shoes keeps cropping up.
trinque manifestly COULD meaningfully learn human lang once separated from his culture, as
the logs bear
testimony, and
this is 1/1 ie 100%.
mircea_popescu: note
that for all
their "handed everyone
their ass, flew
to space" accomplishments, neither
tribe is remembered
today for anything.
mircea_popescu: this could have similarly been said of any of
the other examples of history (the selgiuk
turks, and
the manchuko, readily come
to mind)
mircea_popescu: and
the recourse
to inflation is rather plainly obvious, "we call it Joe's Principle because nobody could have possibly read Kant".
mircea_popescu: a whole cacophopnic symphony of little john smiths. what am i
to do with
this large collection of hardy country folk running around with
their ummims and
thurims ? EVEN IF
THEY DO FLY
TO SPACE!
mircea_popescu: they can't say anything
that's worth remembering for
the obvious reason
that
they can't read anything
that's already
there.
mircea_popescu: and
that's a minor example. consider rothbard's utter failure
to mean or matter, as sadly chronicled on
trilema. yes, he's intellectually negligible, but
the chief problem
that renders him moot is
the extreme poverty and ineptitude of his references! which is not his problem, but
the 1st gen in shoes folks' problem, and
the deep reason us can't and hasn't spoken in
the forum of human
thought.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 15:02 asciilifeform: ( and
then yes rotted and vanished like every previous fat an' comfortable set )
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-17#1715336 <<
this is very much not so, in
that presence of euro buildings is still
the standard by which you distinguish urban from rural agglomeration ; whereas "going
to space" has managed
to become
the standard of nothing whatsoever.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: (the measure for "industrial civ" here used is,
the
type of answer
to
the problem of "i need
three
times
the force". if it's "hire
three
times
the coolies/horses/etc
then pre-ind civ ; if it's "build bigger machine" it's industrial civ ; if
the question not even conceptualized as such
then it's not a civ, like say africa/polynesia/other subhumans)
mircea_popescu: heck,
the swedes are so advanced in germansystem
they don't even need money anymore!
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing
the euroidiots aren't ; but
this simple fact dun make non-euros anything else.
mircea_popescu: much like
the russkis, what
these other marginal orcs have
to show for "their great empire" is a barely functional bezzle scheme. i don't even mean
the financial part, intellectually speaking
the whole us can be comfortably sat down in
two lines' worth of "don't say nigger and state-god will provide", which is what, somehow different from "quote marx and wait for moscow" ?
mircea_popescu: broken lightbulb
temporarily sits on shelf next
to working lightbulb, "oh, did you miss
the
time i burned so very bright it was like 1`000 lightbulbs ?!?!?" suppose i did miss it. what came of it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 15:01 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-17#1715307 << didja sleep
though
the century when '1st gen in shoes' folx handed 'cultured' europe its arse on a platter, and
then flew into space etc
mircea_popescu: but no, i don't
think
the item as described is useless. if you need a new key in less
than a week / if your message lag is mostly
this you've other problems
to attend
to.